Holy Crap Nvidia... Full Earnings & Earnings Call Breakdown [Summary Q2 2023].
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well holy smokes Nvidia knocked it out
of the park with earnings implying maybe
artificial intelligence isn't a flash in
the pan maybe just because people aren't
necessarily incorporating AI into
everything they're doing in their lives
yet doesn't necessarily mean that
companies especially big csps also known
as cloud service providers aren't
throwing every bit of coal they have
into the furnace of artificial
intelligence I think that is a sign that
AI has massive staying power even if
it's just starting to come to consumers
in other words even if consumers might
not wake up every day and say I want AI
the companies that know to use AI or the
cloud service providers and all the
software companies built on top of that
layer in other words your Amazon your
meta Facebook your Google and your
Microsoft or going to plow money into AI
data centers so that way other software
companies like snowflake or maybe
palantir or whatever can make more data
based and provide more data based
insights and conclusions to their
customers and therefore sell more
software whether that's in cyber
security business analytics whatever
point is you don't have to rely on
normal people walking down the street
going oh yeah it was GPT all day long
who cares oh what maybe 50 percent of
people have actually heard about it when
surveyed in the United States maybe 20
percent have actually tried it and maybe
half of those 20 actually end up using
it every single day so I bet the actual
AI use of people it's probably only
somewhere around like one in ten people
actually using AI practically on a daily
basis now but it's the cloud service
providers that know this is the next
Frontier why not advertise these things
that you told us
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we'll try a little advertising and see
how it goes congratulations man you have
done so much people love you people
looked up to you financial analyst and
YouTuber meet Kevin always great to get
your take
and this is what's motivated Jensen to
say which he said in the last earnings
call as well we made a video about how
this could happen and that this could
double down that the cloud service
providers are going to make the
investment and whether or not the
software actually works they're betting
on it and the chips will sell well
that's what's happening but what's worth
noting is Jensen mentioned these cloud
service providers right now are spending
about 250 billion dollars every single
year on Capital expenditures for data
centers and he expects a large portion
of that to shift over to generative Ai
and accelerate compute and this is
basically what Nvidia is providing chips
for and so that is what brings us to
this incredible beat and we're going to
go through the numbers but we'll also do
some brief projections here uh to get
into uh you know is is this all just
hype or is this real the reality is when
a company can offer a three billion
dollars in Buybacks in just the last
three months they they got some money
but it's not just three billion dollars
in BuyBacks over the last three months
or 1.2 billion dollars in debt paydown
is that they just authorized another 25
billion dollars in BuyBacks because
their cash flow is huge six billion
dollars of free cash flow in six months
that works out to 24 billion dollars of
free cash flow per year this is now a
trillion dollar Company by market cap
they're paying out close to a billion
dollars or around thirty two thousand
dollars per three months on average to
their employees in stock based
compensation it's also worth noting
they've got about 16 bill in cash but
again that's growing by about six
billion dollars every three months crazy
they've got total debt uh sitting at
about 20 billion dollars when you factor
out their leases which means they can
basically pay off all their debt and pay
out massive BuyBacks which is great that
is the 10 tax effective way to get
dividends basically right because with
BuyBacks you push the stock up people
can choose to sell the stock if they
want and choose to pay the taxes rather
than being forced to pay the taxes we
actually look at the numbers I want you
to pay specific attention to the r d
numbers and the growth numbers of these
expenses in fact if we jump on over I
want to say I wrote the notes down a
little bit uh whatever we'll just look
at them here the point is the r d
numbers aren't actually moving that much
based on their growth look at their
growth you 2xed Revenue growth over the
last three months year over year you
grew them 38 with the last six months
compared to the last six months prior
meaning a lot of that growth is
happening likely in the last three
months so you massively are exploding
revenues but what are you doing in terms
of r d and sales you're barely growing
them sales barely moved up I mean that's
about a five percent move in sales here
while they doubled their revenues on a
six month period thirty eight percent
and only a five percent move in sales
that's because these Nvidia chips are
set and systems are selling themselves
their r d folks they already developed
it now you just start working on Next
Generation so it's not like they're
having to blow up their r d expenses
they pop them up less than ten percent
here call it about 10 to make math just
simple rounded numbers here so you're
barely moving sales you're barely moving
r d but you're milking tendies your
margin is going up uh your margin
actually moved up in the last quarter uh
compared to your last six months from
about 68.1 percent gross profit to
seventy percent so you're actually
making more money as you're selling more
keep in mind they've got insane profit
these h100s are expected to have a
profit margin you know expected to cost
like three thousand dollars but because
there's such little Supply they're
basically selling them for like 25 to
thirty thousand dollars a potential
thousand percent markup and some folks
are like hey isn't that at some point
going to compress uh margins and the
idea here is not necessarily because if
a small portion of your Revenue right
now is h100s you're selling at a
thousand percent profit maybe eight
hundred percent margin whatever profit
margin whatever eventually As you move
to that being a larger percentage and
you get more in line with selling it for
maybe like a 2X profit right uh or a 70
gross profit that's okay because you're
growing the quantity you're able to
supply and in the earnings call we heard
hey they are ramping as much as they can
and working with their suppliers on
ramping to get these chips out the door
as fast as possible they said they're
happy with the suppliers but let's be
clear they said they expect to be
ramping through 2024. so we're still in
an 18-month ramp cycle for these chips
and actually being able to manufacture
enough of these chips they just can't
get enough of them out the door this is
important this is a very very big
indication uh that Nvidia has massive
massive pricing power and remember it's
not consumers buying this stuff it's the
Microsoft's The Meta the Amazon the
Google you know you could break down
chip data all day long the point is they
told us on their earnings call 50 of
their customers are cloud service
providers that's that's where 50 of
their data center revenue is coming from
cloud service providers after that
you're looking at about I think it was
uh let me see here I'll give you the
exact numbers to confirm so 50
was cloud service providers the next was
a consumer internet at about 25 and then
Enterprise it's worth noting Enterprise
was actually still towards the end it
was so it's not actually yet Enterprise
that's providing most of the revenue for
NVIDIA but then again most of the
Enterprise customers are going to go to
like a VMware and go look we don't
understand this whole AI stuff we're not
going to buy Nvidia chips we just want
to like like just give us the product
well Nvidia just partnered with VMware
to provide the part product so then
VMware and the other cloud service
providers can invest even more in chips
uh it's absolutely incredible so uh
anywho let's keep going here so uh this
is a big deal okay uh what else do we
see here so this is the income statement
we saw the balance sheet we saw the cash
flow statement worth noting how much of
a beat this was you beat data center
Revenue by 29 You're Expecting 7.98
billion dollars that actually came in at
10.32 billion uh Jensen says this is a
new era of cloud compute it's the same
thing he said last time except they're
reiterating their staying power saying
here look our Cuda software stack has a
moat you want to be with Nvidia and as a
result they're actually not having to
Market more that's the thing they're not
having to Market more everybody's going
to Nvidia without them having to
advertise more that just increases their
margin they're the you know hot
commodity on the Block and everybody
wants them right now that is pricing
power in the Nvidia h100s and the
associated uh you know HDX platforms and
otherwise they are the iPhone of
artificial intelligence and anybody
who's anybody in in software is is
making sure that they have the
Competitive Edge and so they're
investing and as a result they're mostly
buying Nvidia chips uh the fact that
gaming grew was a surprise I'm actually
I've got uh the RTX 40 80 and 90 in this
office right here in the studio I think
they're great chips and uh that segment
actually grew again beat expectations
and grew the segment that failed for
NVIDIA uh to beat expectations was
Automotive driven by weak Automotive
demand in China not a surprise since
China is really expected to be going
through uh probably a depression not
fantastic for a company like Tesla
selling cars in China but then again
Giga Shanghai is really turning into the
export market so manufacturing these
vehicles in China and then shipping them
around the world think about some of the
moats that Nvidia has Coda free
marketing and they're the ones everybody
talk talks about when you want the
latest and the best product it's kind of
interesting it's hard to find something
bad here especially when you've even got
companies like Oracle going all in for
these and Jensen and their CFO suggest
there is quote tremendous demand for
these products now who knows maybe
they're just you know saying it but
let's just say they just said it in the
last earnings call
and they proved it in this earnings
report so you're kind of on a trajectory
of believability here especially when
Facebook says when they apply AI based
recommendations they actually increase
the time people spend on Facebook or
Instagram by about 24 so generative Ai
and accelerate compute already affecting
how much time people are spending all
attached to things like Instagram or
YouTube or whatever
as a result leading Facebook to want to
spend even more money on on these front
of uh uh you know what do they call them
front of front of app uh a family of
apps foa family of apps uh software
suite so it's gonna be your facebook.com
your Instagram threads and otherwise and
Facebook I read through the earnings
report this morning with course members
and they say they spend 80 percent of
their cap X on their apps not on reality
Labs reality Labs is only 20 that means
they're spending on data center AI for
lattice advertising data centers that's
where the money's going and they're
calling up Nvidia to buy chips no doubt
uh Shutterstock involved with them as
well for generative AI blah blah blah
the US is the strongest sector for uh
this growth although uh China uh China's
AI demand also sitting about 20 to 25
percent so China Automotive suffering
but China AI doesn't want to stay behind
this is because we might be in not an
Enterprise recession but a consumer
recession where the consumer suffers or
many consumers suffer and can't spend
that much on places like Target or
cheesecake or Walmart or Nike or under
armor or Lulu or whatever
but the Enterprise companies Google and
Microsoft and Amazon and apple these are
the companies that have money to spend
and they spend billions of dollars
they're not feeling the recession the
people are feeling a recession but not
the big companies and so who are the big
companies buying from Nvidia whether
it's for those Cloud compute uh products
whether it's for infiniband which is
basically their version of ethernet for
data centers think about it as cabling
infrastructure Network switches uh you
know server racks it's actually
connecting all of the hardware together
using infiniband
Jensen mentioned founder and CEO of
Nvidia mentioned numerous times in the
last earnings called reiterated again
and this time that infiniband basically
sells itself because once you apply it
your cost of running a Data Center
plummets and we're sitting at a trillion
dollar Legacy data center uh environment
and we are just at the beginning of a
transition to Cloud compute uh via
accelerated and generative Ai and so
this is this is not a matter of being a
consumer flash in the pan or not this is
an Enterprise movement into generative
Ai and cloudtribute as a result all of
the cloud service providers the csps are
like we better be ready for all that
demand if we build it they will come so
to speak and because if we don't build
it the other CSP will so in other words
like Microsoft's like well if we don't
build a data center Amazon will do it
and they'll take our customers right so
they the same thing with Google and
otherwise this is actually very
interesting uh regarding the
sustainability of demand there was a
question about this and they they spoke
about on their earnings call about uh
they're going to be ramping well into
next year and obviously they need a lot
of parts but they see uh this this as a
long-term industry and sustainably
long-term uh based transition a lot of
growth of various different verticals of
the business talked a lot about some of
the individual chips but they think they
have excellent visibility into this year
and next and they're basically saying
demand ain't going away for the next two
years
that's visibility they have for the next
two years keep in mind I don't think the
big customers the csps are fickle like
consumers where they're like hey we want
all the AI stuff and then they go in and
cancel orders I think the you know
Google or whatever the Googles of the
world are kind of like please Microsoft
cancel so we can get more you know this
is literally like hell no why are you
canceling because then you're just gonna
take it it's kind of brilliant when you
think about it from an Enterprise point
of view Nvidia has just got to be on
Cloud9 right now and this is great for
the arm IPO though I think the arm IPO
will create a buy the dip opportunity
for NVIDIA because people shift some
money over there I think that'll be a
mistake I think the only reason you want
to shift away from Nvidia is if you want
to diversify into like real estate or
something like that but that's just to
you know minimize swings in your
portfolios uh but other than that this
this is absolutely fantastic now what
else did we learn well we learned that
uh Nvidia is is is expecting 250 million
dollars in data center spend per year
okay so uh what is actually 250 billion
dollars in data center spend per year
let me correct myself there uh Nvidia in
my opinion uh well first of all nvidia's
total revenue uh right now is somewhere
around 40 billion for the Year let me
see the current estimate is 44 billion
dollars for the year
data center alone I would not be
surprised if Nvidia could end up polling
in the future 100 million out of a full
250 sorry 100 billion uh of data center
spend that'd be about 40 but let's go a
little more generic and let's go a
little more
conservative let's say and Go with 25
of a quarter billion dollars uh a
quarter of a trillion dollars I wrote
this down wrong that's why I keep saying
it just change that to a b really quick
there we go
if Nvidia captures just 25
of that 250 billion dollar per year
spend that's 62.5 billion dollars of
data center Revenue
right now the data center revenue is a
big portion of nvidia's income but that
could represent over the next uh you
know year to two years somewhere around
a 50 to 75 to 50 percent growth rate for
their Top Line earnings and I think
you'll probably end up averaging over
the next few years as they continue to
introduce Next Generation AI Hardware
like the Next Generation h100 you're
probably looking at a growth rate for
this company that'll end up averaging
over the next four years closer to 35
percent Wall Street right now is only
pricing in 25 growth so I'm not here to
say oh it's going to be 100 or 50 growth
every single year for the next four
years but if you price in just to show
you the valuation of this if you price
Nvidia at a 35 growth rate take their
stock price at say 510
divided by call it 9 dollars and fifty
cents of earnings to get you to the end
of this year their end of this year is
January of 2024. that puts you at about
53.6 times earnings now what we're going
to do is divide that to get a PEG ratio
by 35 percent
you're looking at
a 1.5 Peg that means Nvidia is actually
trading closer in valuation right now to
end phase than Tesla Tesla is trading at
a peg of about 2.3 sitting at about a 69
p e call it 30 growth rate on earnings
that's about a 2.3 Peg that actually
makes nvidia's valuation extremely
attractive now let's go back to just
being even more conservative say their
EPS only grows at 25 the way Wall Street
expects over the next four years on
average that puts them at a 2.1 Peg
still cheaper than Tesla now some people
are wondering is this potentially
inflationary
no this is actually deflationary this is
why companies are replacing more back
office jobs because they can get more
done with artificial intelligence they
can get more done with Cloud compute and
they need less people in back offices so
this is a deflationary force even though
it's more spend on the Next Generation
technology it's really incredible so
Nvidia is phenomenally positioned here
and just with some very generic math the
numbers for NVIDIA can be absolutely
phenomenal here again understand data
center Revenue right now sitting at 10.3
billion uh Rec you know total revenue at
13.5 so it's obviously very clear that
data center revenue is already a bulk of
their revenue it already makes up about
76 of their revenue but if if we get to
25 of that 250 billion dollar market in
the future that's 60 2.5 and I expect
that'll grow over time as well and that
just represents 76 percent because
you've got gaming and automotive and
these other segments as well nvidia's
Revenue could be closer to 82 billion
dollars very quickly Wall Street does
not expect that nvidia's revenue is
going to Broach 80 billion dollars until
2026. it'll actually probably happen in
2024 or 5. so I think this growth is
going to happen a lot faster and sooner
than expected and it'll be growth for
asml it'll be growth for TSM it'll be
growth for Intel and it'll be growth for
NVIDIA because this transition is not
just going to be a one-time transition
it'll be all right we got the iPhone 1
in now
who's got the iPhone 2 when video is
already working on the iPhone 2 well the
iPhone 3G is what the iPhone 2 was
called but you know what I mean anyway
this is incredibly bullish uh now we
have to sort of temper expectations here
because there is this potential for the
stock market to try to price in too much
of that growth right and we are still in
a very uncertain macro environment uh
and the level of software revenues are
still questionable from companies like
you know soft uh snowflake Microsoft and
otherwise but we did also just have
snowflake revenues and Autodesk revenues
and guess what both of them beat
so kind of impressive I have to say
there's little to be upset about about
this what I would do uh and this is not
personalized Financial advice for you
because I don't know your personalized
financial situation but I like the idea
of and this is what I'm personally going
to do I like the idea of allocating uh
money to stuff like uh uh Nvidia TSM
asml uh Intel Tesla but I'm gonna put in
that basket
solar so that way if these these you
know uh uh pick and shovel sellers do
well and solar keeps sucking that's okay
my portfolio is growing but when solar
booms and the chips start going like
okay like we've had our run
that's when I expect the portfolio just
keeps rocketing and I think one of the
nice ways to do that is is through you
know an ETF that that focuses on on a
strategy like that especially since you
can take advantage of some of the tax
benefits that are associated with
investing in ETFs where ETFs can
rebalance uh taxable gains for example
uh about uh six weeks or so ago the fund
that I manage we had somewhere around a
four million dollars in gains and we
traded out of a certain stock into a
different allocation and we saved
investors somewhere between one and a
half to two million dollars in taxes on
that because they were short-term gains
but because of the way ETFs are
structured if you set them up a certain
way you could actually reallocate
without paying taxes uh the ETA you know
obviously assuming you have gains and
stuff like that talk to your CPA right
I'm just trying to educate on how ETF
structures work so
um
yeah ETF structure very very interesting
Nvidia very very interesting and I would
balance my enthusiasm for chips and AI
especially cloud with solar mate anyway
thank you so very much for watching
really appreciate you all and we'll see
you in the next one goodbye
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