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hey everyone me Kevin here I am back and
boy oh boy we got a buckle up for what's
coming up next week this is going to be
wild but before I go through the
schedule with you I want to show you
what some of the wall streeters are
talking about so let's get right into it
here we go Bank of America says hey this
is like a bubble dream the FED is
cutting oil is crashing China is
printing money this is perfect people
were going long gold as an inflation
head Ed they're going long tech and
everything else is a trade because we're
going straight to the Moon their bull
bear indicator by the way is midpoint I
was actually surprised it wasn't a
little bit more on the bullish side of
the scale because it feels like things
have been pretty dang bullish but hey
it's their indicator so I guess they can
determine how they want uh I've have
been a little more nervous about labor
but we are going to talk about what
happened with that savings number today
in a little bit more detail and I did
find it interesting that Bank of America
clients were actually adding more money
to the 10 and 2year treasury notes
rather than the very shortterm 4 to one
week which were started declining over
here uh and then very little there to
the 2030 year uh this by the way 2030
year is seen as a recession hedge uh and
since a lot of people don't think
there's going to be recession maybe
that's why there aren't a lot of inflows
in that uh but I did want to look in
here I wanted to see if they had August
uh in their bull bear scale they
actually did didn't they had Extreme
bullishness as February of
2018 January of 2020 and then extreme
bearishness as October of 22 uh and
October of 23 and they called those uh
buy bear points Ah that's funny that's
right around when I launched my fund but
anyway take a look at the CNN greed and
fear index if you look at the greed and
fear index we're almost solidly in the
uh well we're certainly solidly in the
greed category we're almost in the
extreme greed category Mark momentum
greed extreme greed on stock price
strength and bread in other words uh
more stocks going up than going down and
then the put call volume this one's the
scariest to me because this one can
sometimes signal shocks coming up
because usually after the put call
volume uh gets this low into that uh
sort of like under 65 is Level under
70ish level you usually end up having
this pretty large ramp up uh in put
buying and protection buying basically
and you might be able to line that up
with what's going on in markets but
what's most important is take a look at
where we sit right now we sit at about a
66 which we've only been lower than this
uh for this area once twice in about the
last year so we're getting pretty dang
bullish we people like nah I don't want
any puts this is leading some like the
marketeer I was reading them a little a
little earlier they're like you know
maybe it's a good time to pick up some
downside protection because downside
protection is something you get when you
don't need it and you don't even think
about wanting it because by the time you
need it it's too late interesting I'm
not the biggest fan of puts mostly
because I I think you really have to
play the timing on it well sometimes I
play it really well like for example I
bought a put on Tesla this morning s an
alert to everybody in the stocks and py
group and I was up 61% on that trade and
I'm like boom I'm running the register
now of course Tesla ended higher but
that's okay it was just a trade on the
roller coaster right that's fine I don't
have any other shorts or puts on any
kind of stocks uh so what we have over
here is uh volatility actually pretty
neutral right now though we did have a
little bit of a tick up in the vix and
some on Wall Street were saying that
little pick up there on the vix was like
a sign that the vix is getting ready to
wake up uh maybe but that's probably
because the calendar we have coming up
not necessarily a bad Omen I mean think
what's coming up next week we're going
to get the ADP employment report I'm
going to give you some of these numbers
and then we'll talk about what a little
more with what happened with that
savings rate today so obviously PC was
good we already talked about that on the
1 which is Tuesday we're going to get
the joltz numbers okay this is labor
related so it's going to be a big deal
everybody right now cares about Labor
including myself because if we can
actually start getting growth again in
jobs which would be remarkable but you
might actually stick a soft Landing even
with those downward revisions that we've
been getting in labor so you really you
want to start pricing in recession you
want to see jobs come in under a 100,000
you want to start pricing in soft
Landing you want to see jobs coming in
over
180,000 that's usually what I like to
see somewhere around 90 to 100 under
that once we start breaking that range
it's bad like you get sub 50 you're
probably going into recession uh so 90
to 100 is a good level to watch and a
good level to watch on the flip side in
my opinion is that like 180 level before
you start trending back up to 200 so
watch it I I think the dad is going to
tell us that honestly within the next 5
to six weeks here this is the time to
tell us you'll see why so mark your
calendar October 1st you get the jolts
report then you get 0p on October 2nd
which is Wednesday we're expecting
125,000 jobs it's pretty good and ADP is
usually the more bearish one and that's
actually a turn up the last estimate for
ad0 well actually the last result for
ADP was 999,000 now we're looking at 125
that would kind of suggest that like
July and August got slapped a little and
like something weird happened there and
now everything's kind of back and the
part's back it's like the power went out
for a second and everybody's like oh my
gosh it's the start of the end and then
the power came back on it's like no all
right it's not even the generator that's
just normal Power like we're good like
we're not even coming in for a landing
we're going keep flying keep flying the
plane okay what are we circling the
airport for so uh then uh we have the
actual jobs report which comes out 2
days after that Friday the 4th and the
current estimate is 146,000 so in order
for you to go like Mega bear here uh
keep in mind you get like ISM prices
paid here twice uh once on the first and
once on the third the first will be
manufacturing the third will be uh for
services so we'll get a little bit of a
read on inflation again which is good
since we had the S&P pmis that came in a
little warm last week and started
pushing Commodities up a bit so those
could affect bonds or inflation concerns
a little bit and gold watch those but
otherwise everyone's going to care about
Labor jolts ADP then the jobs report if
this jobs report comes in hot and knocks
it out of the
park yeah it's it's going to be kind of
hard to start arguing even with big
revisions it's going to be kind of hard
to start saying uh yep nope recessions
right around the corner because quite
frankly that it just even if you revised
it down by 30% it would still be really
good right if the estimate is
146,000 and let's say it comes in at
160,000 beat or or goes up to 160,000 so
14kb which seems relatively reasonable
that'd be within standard deviations
here uh so let me go down 30% just to
take 30% off and see uh I would be down
at time 70% 112 still in the positive
direction even after the revisions and
I'm actually going up not down right
because the last release was 142 so you
kind of be start creating a trend up and
see what I always like to do is I like
to invest in markets when there's Peak
uncertainty so I mean I wouldn't be
surprised for you to have red going into
the labor market reads next week and if
the labor market reads come in Weak
jolts ADP jobs markets just really going
to tank because everybody thinks the
labor market is going to be that sort of
canary in the cold mine cold mine for
recession I I don't really believe that
I actually think when the labor market
starts telling you you're heading
towards recession it's too late I think
what's more likely to lead to recession
is some kind of Market correction that
comes as a result of some form of World
War III Fe although so far the market
has not cared at all it's kind of like
the Market's almost like cheering on
Israel taking out like every freaking
hezb person they can come across because
the more and more that war expands the
more the market just keeps going up so I
don't actually think we're going to get
much too much scary news out of the jobs
reports because I mean let's be real
that's the last thing to roll really I
think what people should be paying way
more attention to are going to be
earnings that third quarter earnings set
orning start like 2 weeks after we get
this jobs report I don't even care about
the CPI report that comes out you know a
week and a half or whatever after the
jobs report I think that'll be fine just
like the pce report that we got this
morning or CPI last week I think what'll
really matter earnings and that's what I
most look forward to because those
earnings won't tell me about this
quarter who cares by this quarter I want
to know about Q4 what are companies
seeing going into Q4 I want to hear
commentary from Domino's on the 10th
Delta on the 10th I want to hear the
banks start reporting how are defaults
going I get GP JP Morgan Wells Fargo
Bank of New York melon I and fenel for
some construction numbers I get all of
those before the market open on October
11th you got Tesla's Robo taxi day on
the 10th which will probably be a by the
rumor sell the news uh but then you're
going into the 18th for earnings which
frankly a lot of people think earnings
are actually going to do really well
there are a lot of people that who are
upgrading what they think earnings are
going to be and what deliveries are
going to be for Tesla for this next
quarter so frankly there's kind of like
it's almost like a lot of people feel
like things are kind of like you know
slowly going on the up and up trajectory
which is nice and the downside risk jobs
but again we get a good jobs report here
fantastic now the worst case scenario is
you get a bad jobs report because if you
get a bad jobs report next week or just
bad jobs bad data across the board next
week then it's going to amplify how
important earnings are like let me
rephrase that if you get good jobs data
honestly do we really care that much
about earnings yes we do because the
earnings are going to be the leading
indicators but the stock market will go
in frothed up on the back of good labor
data so like it's not that bad uh then
of course you'll have election
uncertainty but honestly I feel like
we've already got so much election
uncertainty I mean look at uh you know
the betting markets for the presidency
you've got predicted uh kind of showing
kamla Harris at like a nine-point lead
you've got the New York Times saying the
latest polling puts both of the
candidates at razor thin earning or
razor thin margins in the Battleground
States uh poly Market puts comma at 51
Donald Trump at 49 you've got the
current estimates uh for Tesla
deliveries at about 460
to about
465 honestly not bad it's pretty decent
it's all going to come down to what
margins are going to be but frankly it
puts Tesla on track to get to about 1.8
million deliveries which is flat
year-over-year growth it's not
great but it's better than substantially
negative so you know was like all right
no problem so not bad uh then in terms
of really pricing in the market usually
usually markets look post election and
go cool uncertainty is gone time for the
markets to Moon I think that is such
mainstream knowledge at this point that
we've kind of already priced that in so
I think the way to kind of reconcile all
of this is sort of look at what what is
left like what can actually make the
market go down and doesn't need to go
down well I'll answer the second one
first no the market does not have to go
down uh but the first thing we have to
think of
is uh labor lags but freaks the market
out all you have to do is look at the
July labor report and you'll see how the
market freaked out I mean it it flushed
out the Black Swan of the you know
Japanese carry trade so and that was all
on a labor report so that actually makes
next week probably the most important
for Price action but frankly less
important for recession risks like the
way I look at recession risk is uh you
kind of go this way you go market crash
Black
Swan then you get lay uh well prices go
down well that's part of market crash
right then you get layoffs then you get
earnings down then and and unemployment
claims that go
up uh and then you get labor down and
then you have recession so if you think
about it in this pattern really absent a
Black Swamp
you don't really get the layoffs
ironically though a bad labor report
could be the Black Swan just like it was
in August so it's it's a little
complicated to understand but next week
is really important for what the market
reacts with and that could create a
cycle of uncertainty uh and be Amplified
by earnings so here are sort of the two
paths okay uh path one bad labor
week uh
amplifies any earnings misses people
take profits and fear into election okay
path two good labor week uh this
buffers any earnings Miss in other words
you could miss and uh would wouldn't be
that bad right uh people uh Buy dips on
misses and who cares on
Election that's kind of what I think we
got going on that actually makes next
week
potentially the most important week for
this
cycle so how do you play it well I mean
honestly I mean uh like I mean I think
one week puts going into it on Monday or
going to fade a Decay like crazy uh
probably Decay way way too much going
into Friday so you probably if you were
to get puts if puts you probably grab
like October 20s just to give you a
little bit more breathing room or just
go uh or you know 90 days out right uh
the other thing that you could do is uh
if you get a bad labor report you know
something you can hedge with you can
hedge with uh long treasuries because
because uh we should have low
inflationary readings next week like pce
maybe maybe right uh and uh labor crash
should dump yields especially with fed
speak uh which uh would amplify the
promise of fed
intervention think about that stock
market go poopy doopy uh next week
because of the labor market you're going
to get fed that's like you know we're
going to be really aggressive about the
labor market you know you'll get the
ghouls bees coming out going oh we need
to cut by hundreds of points okay good
great I mean that actually them reacting
increases your chances again of a soft
Landing so next week's
big one week one week is probably too
much if puts you probably go out October
20th or 90 days out and you just have to
be careful with the F Decay and then
obviously how much uh how long you want
to hold on to the these you could hedge
with treasuries which are a little less
volatile uh I I don't love the triple
leverag ones but there are plenty of
options for uh longer treasuries TLT is
an example of one uh but I also have
positions in TLT so I'm not trying to
just I I hate like I always like to
disclose like if I'm saying something
related to my book I don't want people
to think that's that's the point of
these videos uh it's just I always just
like to be transparent with my thoughts
uh really I don't think
that you know you need to necessarily
say oh I'm going to sell everything and
go all cash I don't I don't think that
at all uh but I think that starts
happening if you get path one because
you can hedge going into a bad week with
some of these
options uh you don't have to be all cash
but this fear into the election that
could be dip bable depending on earnings
see now this is interesting get bad
labor Outlook but earnings are like hey
we hit a bump and everything's coming
back on the up and up that's when you
buy that dip on earnings so that could
be an
entry interesting so that would be you
know I think Friday or week thereafter
you know before you really get the
earnings rolling out uh before earnings
or just wait for the earnings I guess
then you can determine it depends what
you want so it would be Friday or or
after
earnings okay uh unless of course
whatever selloff happens on on labor
keeps going for a while but these are
just some things to think of uh okay so
if if you don't this is sort of number
two if you don't
get uh
anything uh out of
Labor
then you're really just twiddling your
thumbs for Black
Swan the reason I say that is at least
based on the current data uh yes there
are certain parts that are doing very
very poorly in the economy restaurants
are doing very poorly temp job openings
are doing very T poorly you know new
hirings doing very poorly construction
job openings architectural buildings uh
real estate market still a little in the
poopy and in many different parts of the
the country uh with the exception of the
underbuilt uh we did just get the same
savings rate that got revised up uh this
was actually a note from Goldman saying
there's a chance the savings rate was
low
because of uh unmeasured interest income
and labor compensation received by
households okay uh and then at the same
time we also saw GDP go up to 3.1% so
savings rate got revised up almost 2%
which was wild and GDP went up today
look at this uh this accounts for the
national associ iation of Realtors a
decline in the nowcast of the personal
consumption expenditures growth was more
than offset by an increase in Real gross
domestic investment growth in other
words this section which had turned
negative for a while I guess turned
positive enough to uh boost this up as
well as net
exports okay so all of a sudden I guess
GDP is on fire again which is pretty
remarkable but you look at this in whole
uh it all comes down to the Labor Market
Bank of America talks about that too you
know they're under the impression that
we're going to have a 150k over here but
if the labor market holds with the
numbers we talked about I I don't know
that there that there's a reason to be
horribly bearish so uh I think that does
make me more bullish on sort of my bull
bare bull scale but I'm going to wait to
make any kind of prediction on how
bullish until we actually get our jobs
numbers uh next week jolt
uh the ADP report and the official uh
report because if ADP comes in super low
you know I use that as sort of my way of
like sussing out the the jobs report
from the BLS which always seems to get
revised down afterwards so you have to
kind of account for that already JP pal
said so himself uh but
overall I think this is a reasonable
path so the reasonable path is Watch
What Happens next week because you
should have Max uncertainty at some
point over the next 30 days let's write
that down Max
uncertainty over uh next 30 why you have
uh you know uh uh strikes inside of
Russia by Ukraine you have uh you know
these these strikes by um uh Israel and
uh an escalating Iranian threat you have
uh gold and oil sussing something out
maybe right is it an inflationary risk
is that why Gold's going up or is there
a larger risk going on you still have
problems with the lower end lower-end
consumer uh restaurants
construction temp jobs and
hiring uh all no
bueno obviously we also know that 50 to
90 BP uninverted is usually where the
recession begins we are close like next
week could make this happen next week
could make this flip I mean think about
this just so you know where we sit right
now on the two's 10 2 10 yield
curve okay 210 yield curve right now is
19 okay so if we're at
19 here's the way to look at this uh oh
let me get the twoe
quickly okay
bonds the 10 years is 3.75 nice round
number 3.55 s on the two right so the
way you could do this is you get bad
jobs data bad jobs data and this is how
quickly it'll happen bad jobs data 2year
drops 75 BP to
2.75 uh 10e drops I don't know call it
um 25 BP to
3.5 now you're 75 bips uninverted
boom recession cam it doesn't even have
to be that wide like you could literally
go down to 3.25 on the 10 year or you
could go down to three on the two and
3.5 on the 10 and then your 50 basis
points inverted boom recession Camp it
could literally happen next
week uh obviously combined with uh
election
uncertainty do I think that earnings
could be the Catalyst that pulls this
off less
likely mostly
because you know it that's idiosyncratic
I mean you did see that with super micro
computer where super micro goes down and
drags the whole Market down
but you know to get sort of a systemic
movement I feel like labor would be what
does it so so that's my take that's my
take uh I want just give a thorough
update here on on sort of everything
that's on my mind and what I'm
watching uh and uh this this labor
report will be the labor report based on
September mind you so we actually get
some September insights here uh the next
point where I think you might really
have more labor uncertainties probably
be January those would be sort of post
election post holidays layoffs anyway
there you have it thanks so much for
watching folks and we'll see you in the
next one goodbye and good luck out there
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