Virginya Slim On 2Pac's Passing "He Was Brain Dead and Had Heart Attacks!"

if you don't mind, can you tell me where

you were and how you found out when Suge

and Tupac were shot and then obviously

later um when Tupac passed away?

Yeah. Um,

oh, I hate reliving this moment when

Tupac was shot and Suge, cuz Suge was

grazed by a bullet, too. Um, I was in

LA. Um, that same conversation that I

had with him about him wanting to leave

the label and why I wasn't letting

anybody know that I was a rapper and a

singer. Um, that day I told him I was

supposed to I had a flight booked to

Vegas. I had a room at the Luxor that

was our favorite. That was like the

death row records hotel to stay in cuz

it was very new and we felt like king

and queens being in there. Um, I I told

him that same in that same conversation

that I had cancelled my flight and um my

room and he was like why? And at the

time I didn't know, but I wasn't feeling

good. And uh I found out later that I

was pregnant. But when I found out that

he and Suge had been shot, I was at

home.

Um and Eric B called me and

he was like, "I got something to tell

you." He said, "I got some bad No, he

said, I got some really bad news." And I

was like, "What?" And he was like, "Your

man's been shot again.

you know, in his New York tone, "Yo,

YOUR MAN'S BEEN SHOT AGAIN." And I was

like, "My man's" AND HE WAS LIKE,

"TUPAC, POCKY?" I USED TO CALL HIM

POCKY. And he was like, "Pac, he been

shot again." And I was like, "He been

shot again? How? Why? Like, what

happened? Where are you?" And he said

that they were entourageing on their way

to 662. Um, and a car drove up and shot

him and made a right turn. And he wasn't

the only one got shot. Your man Suge was

grazed by a bullet, too. And I was like,

"Grazed by a bullet." And he was like,

"YEAH, IN THE HEAD. In the head, SON.

YOUR YOUR MAN'S IN THEM BEEN SHOT.

I'm in LA.

I'm in shock." He But then he says this.

I said, "Well, is everybody okay?" He

said, "Man, your man's pop literally

walked himself to the ambulance, so he

going to be all right."

And I'm like,

"Okay, but

more details." He like, "I think you

should get to Vegas. You should just

come to Vegas." So

the next morning after getting that

phone call, I jump in the truck. Eric B

had a truck that he um drove a big ass

Suburban and Isis and I drove Beline to

Vegas

and we were there.

So he got shot on Saturday. We got there

Sunday night and we were there literally

until

Thursday, late Thursday night, early

Friday morning.

Um, and then Apheni had a meeting with

everyone. I I I we kept going to the

emergency room and at the hospital every

day and we saw all the fans and his

Tupac's health just started

deteriorating

that week and I was getting sicker and

sicker by the day and all of us the

outlaws and every everybody like we

weren't really eating, we weren't

drinking water, we were just kind of

hanging out near the ICU which was close

to the emergency room at that hospital

in Las Vegas and you know just kind of

holding viguals and stuff like that. We

just weren't really taking care of

oursel cuz we just wanted him to get

better. Um

and then Thursday Aenie called

Afeni called a meeting

letting us know that the um

letting us know that the doctors um

pretty much said that he was going to be

brain dead. He had suffered a few heart

attacks and a bunch of seizures.

and if she kept him alive that he would

have no brain activity

and that she had made the decision

to let him go.

This was on Thursday. I'll never forget

that

it was Friday the 13th when she took him

off life support.

So Thursday, September 12th is when

Apheni gave us that speech. And as we

became emotional

and angry, especially the outlaws, cuz

you know, they were really young and

full of energy and nobody wanted her to

do that. It was almost like he spoke

through her and calming us all down and

accepting that he wouldn't have wanted

to live like that

and that it was important that we made

peace with her letting her son go and

that we were all going to be okay.

And it pretty much calmed everybody

down.

And that night I went back to the Luxor

Hotel

and I went to bed and I got up early

that Friday morning, September 13th,

1996.

And about 4:00 in the morning

[snorts] and I left ISIS. I drove back

to LA by myself

all the way back to Can-Am Studios.

And by the time I made it to the

studios,

when I when I pulled in through the

alleyway, there were um it was like a

visual. There were candles lit and there

were pictures of Pop.

And I knew I knew then that she had took

him off life support.

[snorts]

Still hurts. It still hurts to this day.

Like I was so young. It still hurts.

And I went home. I didn't even go inside

of Can-Am Studios.

I I didn't even go home actually because

I was feeling so bad and I had a funny

feeling that I might be pregnant. I went

to I went to a clinic

and I got a pregnancy test

and it was like on the same day a life

was taken and a life was given cuz I

found out I was pregnant with little

Eric. And then I went home.

>> Were you able to see Tupac when he was

in the hospital or No?

>> No. No. No. Um I was actually

um

I was being escorted back. ISIS and I

were being escorted back to see him. And

then there was this guy from the record

label. I didn't even know who he was.

And like I said before,

um

there were people at the record label

that I didn't know cuz employees at the

studio and employees um at the record

label were different. I think his name

was CL. He stopped us from some for some

reason from Afeni. Apheni told Isis and

I that it was okay to go back and talk

to him [snorts] and cuz that's all you

could do. I mean, I think he was in an

induced coma because his injuries were

so bad so that he could heal. They put

him in an induced coma. But, you know,

when people are in comas, it's important

they say that they hear voices of people

that they know and love. So, Afeni

cleared us to go back and see him and

talk to him. But this guy CL, whoever he

was, he was a real uptight guy. That's

what I remember. He literally jumped in

front of ISIS like this. me and Isis

like this like no y'all can't go back

there.

So I I didn't I didn't get to see him

that whole week um because of that guy

and I think his name was CL. [snorts]

I'm not sure but there was a man that

worked at the record label that stopped

us even though Aeni gave us clearance to

go back there and see him.