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Well, the Federal Reserve is uh
continuing to poop on the expectation
that markets should get three full rate
cuts uh including the one that we just
got. And now we're pricing in just one
and a half rate cuts. Why? Well, because
past data is pretty good. And most
members at the Fed are telling us we
good. We don't need to rush down. But
there are some calling for emergency
cuts. And it's not just my or at least
calling for more rapid cuts. We got to
talk about that and sort of balance all
of this out with companies still laying
off. Bosch cutting 13,000 jobs though
most of that is happening in Germany.
The economy is still globally connected
and it makes you wonder what's going on
because you've also got CarMax
plummeting off a cliff. Starbucks
announcing a billion dollars in
restructuring store closings and about
900 corporate layoffs. on top of the,00
corporate layoffs they just did. And
it's starting to make people wonder, is
the economic data good because of a big
old pull forward earlier this year or
like is this a continuation of hopefully
a soft landing? Because when CarMax is
down 23%
on top of already being on a massive
downtrend, I mean, look at this. This is
like this is literally like the, you
know, meme where it's like and it's
gone. Like this is like a rugpull on
CarMax is what this looks like. It's
terrible. So, how do we reconcile all of
this? What's being said in that earnings
call? What are they talking about? And
what is CarMax doing with consumers
right now? Is there potentially a red
flag there? Well, we got to touch on all
of that. Uh, I do want to make a quick
note that in the course member live
stream this morning, we killed it. Okay,
we called this double bottom and said go
bullish. It's why I was late to the
public open live stream this morning.
Uh, and you've got folks uh in the chat
uh who are saying things uh that uh that
are very nice. So, I appreciate y'all.
Uh so, some of you saying things like,
"Hey, the course pays for itself at 10x.
Uh you know what you said this morning
on the bottom? nailed it. My calls are
printing here. Wayne says, "So worth it.
Course is on point today in conjunction
with what he said uh where the market
seemed to be done with the big dump this
morning. I bought coals and they're
still printing." Thanks for saying that,
Wayne. That was really nice of you. So
really cool. I mean, you know, it was a
great day for the meet Kevin Alpha
Report. And keep in mind that's
something we've been doing over the last
few days is we set up sort of the
expectations for the day. But then this
morning we actually I I walked everyone
through this drop and my expectation was
the worst we were going to go was
negative 100 basis points and when we
pulled through that I said volume watch
volumes we rejected VWAP and you can
watch this. This is recorded like I'm
not just like rewriting history here.
You can watch me say this. go. This is a
very weak rejective we VWAP. I bet you
we will have another stab up and we will
be breaking straight through to the
upside. And sure enough, we formed a
double bottom and it was straight up. We
did all of that technical analysis live
and we even bought the dip. So, we're
down in this area. So, if you're not
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all that out of the way, let's get into
this data. So, look, we we have a list
of Fed members who spoke this morning.
Note tells us that inflation is still
too high and the labor market is still
in balance. That is probably the worst
thing the Fed could say right now
because obviously the labor market is
weakening, but they're choosing to look
at signals uh that are,
how should I put it, less less desirable
because they're looking at just broad
unemployment rates and unemployment
claims. That's what the that's what
markets are doing right now. Markets are
saying, "Hey, but Kevin, unemployment
claims this morning came in fine and
continuing claims were fine." This is
true, but this is also some of the most
noisy data we could look at. And this is
where the concern is that the Fed is
going to make a massive policy mistake.
Initial claims this morning 218 versus
233 expected, 232 on the prior.
Continuing claims were down 6K, although
the prior was revised up 8K. So, you
know, this is noisy, noisy data. I mean,
two weeks ago we had horrible
unemployment claims and then the state
of Texas, who's basically a Trump shill,
is like, "Oh, you know, that was only
because of fraud." Oh, okay. One time
out of nowhere, all of a sudden, that
one week, oh yeah, that was only high
because of fraud,
whatever. So, the data that people are
paying attention to, specifically the
Fed, a lot of the Fed members, I worry,
is going to prove that the Fed will end
up being too late. And the biggest thing
that I pay attention to regularly are
updates to that 27 weeks long-term
unemployed level because it says that
these people have been unemployed so
long that they're not even being counted
as unemployed anymore. If you added
these people to the long-term unemploy
or to the current unemployment rate, the
current unemployment rate would be
substantially higher. In addition to
that, we've actually seen uh the labor
force participation rate come down. And
if the labor force participation rate
stabilizes back up and we get higher
layoffs, we're going to be in a very
rapid 5 to 6% unemployment rate almost
overnight. And the Fed is going to be
blind to it. This is the labor force
participation rate. You can see that we
did have a downtrend post uh the
financial crisis, but look at what's
recently happened here postco. you had
this big push up in the labor force
participation rate and since 2025 the
end of 24 beginning of 25 you've seen
this drop. I think this drop is a little
easier to see if we go to the quarterly
data just cuz it's going to smooth this
out a little more. See this drop right
here? If this drop normalizes back up to
where we were over here,
we're going to see the unemployment rate
skyrocket. And this is what in my
opinion the Fed is blind to right now.
Again, you had Schmid this morning tell
you, "Hey, the labor market is in
balance. Inflation is still too high."
Goullesby says, "Hey, hey, whoa, whoa,
whoa. You know, we got to be careful
about front-loading cuts because we
don't want inflation to to, you know, uh
uh to take off and end up proving to be
more persistent and uh we're optimistic.
We're on a golden path here." Oh, that's
great. Now, the Fed is talking about a
golden path. Like, everything's gilded.
I guess everything's fine. But labor
market data shows per Goulsby moderate
cooling. But Daly clarifies this and
she's like, "Look, we don't really see a
recession right now. Stagflation doesn't
seem like it's around the corner, but we
don't really want any more softening in
the labor market. We just want it to
stop." We had literally like four
speeches this morning. It was insane.
So, I'm giving you the TLDDR here.
Bowman says tariffs will have a one-time
price impact, but it's appropriate to
shift to focus on jobs versus inflation
because we're within the range, the
flexible inflation range of 2%. And the
labor market might be more fragile than
expected and therefore we should justify
more cuts now, but she's in the
minority. see Bowman and Myron, they're
in the minority of emergency cuts uh or
or at least rapid cuts now, not going to
zero, but get rapidly off of that
restrictive level so you stop causing
more damage to the labor market. I think
they're both right. I think Bowman and
uh Myron are right that we should be
lower. We should be at like maybe a two
or two and a half% rate uh for a Fed
funds rate instead of a four where we
sit now. So we can hope to minimize some
more of that damage of the labor market
because remember what you're seeing at
CarMax and this is really important. So
go back to dude the freaking Q's calls
keep printing. That's what we called
that double bottom line in the course
member live stream this morning. I'm so
happy about that. I'm so happy about
well I'm not I mean I bought the dip too
but I'm I'm so happy that we were able
to pull that off in the meet Kevin
membership this morning live. I'm like,
watch watch it go straight up from here
and and it did uh on a double B. It's
this is great. So, congrats to all of
those of you in the meet membership. But
anyway, understand what CarMax said this
morning. Sar said that
in in their analyst earnings call, we
looked at sort of the live trans grip of
it because the earnings call was going
on this morning during while we were in
the meet membership and CarX was saying,
"Hey guys, listen. Um, yeah, we know
we're getting into more subprime loans,
but uh we're trying to remain
competitive here, guys." Okay, hold on a
second. Hold on a second. Hold on a
second. Hold on a second. That's really
bad. Okay, that's really bad. I mean,
yesterday we did a video talking
aboutricolor and, you know, the the auto
the other auto group, these bankruptcies
coming in in the autos. That's not good.
But it could be because, you know,
people are getting deported and and
they're the companies could have just
sucked, right? But now CarMax is telling
you guys,
uh, look, uh, we're going to cut SGNA to
get margins up. Don't worry, it's not
going to affect our advertising, but uh
we are uh we're not as competitive as we
would like to be. So, we've got some
repositioning to work to try to get
better. And then, you know, one of the
analysts is like, "So, you're going to
do uh more shitty loans, like more
subprimes?" Like, isn't that bad going
into a potential recession? like
well you see
so it's like it's not good and so the
car situation today begs the question is
the data that we're getting this GDP
data that came in so hot this morning is
it saying that the economy is strong or
is it saying that the economy has been
strong because a artificial intelligence
almost certainly because of artificial
intelligence. Deutsche Bank this morning
suggested we would have been in a
recession in Q1 had it not been for the
AI buildouts. Okay, great. Uh but
you and then you look at capital good
orders, you know, capital good orders
coming up 6% today versus the zero
expected. Uh and that's that's on top of
the 08 which was slightly revised down,
but it's on top of the 08 we got last
month. That's really good capital good
orders numbers. really good. So people
are like companies are investing in
infrastructure. Uh but is it potentially
is CarMax potentially the sort of
leading indicator that now we're getting
so much stress amongst the consumer that
is bubbling up. You start getting the
subprime lenders go bankrupt. you start
getting Starbucks, the Chipotles, the
regular kind of consumer stocks start
having stress and start bubbling up and
start laying off more people, which just
leads to lower sales. You know, the
cycle begins. The thing that's booming
again, that AI buildout, but is it also
possible we had a really big pull
forward of people blowing money on
stuff? So the idea here is that you know
especially with CarMax which they
reference as well maybe people were so
worried about the impact of tariffs they
bought a car in Q1 or in Q2 during the
pause they're like let's get ahead of
tariffs let's buy a car now they buy a
car and then what ends up happening
nobody's buying a car in Q3 because well
technically their Q2 their Q2 is funny
their Q2 ends August 31st so it's June
July August so you get this this you low
because there was such a pull forward.
You're going to get that by the way with
Tesla as well. Like I think Tesla's
going to have a a record delivery number
here in the third quarter for Tesla. Uh
you know with with deliveries that are
coming out I think next week. We'll get
those next week or the week after that.
We'll get delivery numbers you know
first part of October here. And those
numbers will show how many deliveries we
were able to get with an expiring $7,500
coupon code. It is literally like, you
know, Kevin saying, "Hey, the Me Kevin
membership price goes up tomorrow uh
night," which that is what it's
scheduled for. You go to meet Kevin.com
and you can see that. But that's
extreme. I mean, like, we raise the
price of the Me Kevin membership over
time because we think we keep adding
more value, especially a day like today.
We just freaking killed it with the
calls. But, uh, and buying the dip at
like the perfect time, but you go to
Tesla, this is a $7,500
coupon code that's expired. That's
insane. Now, Tesla will probably have to
drop their prices to be competitive in
Q4 and Q1, but I don't think they're
going to drop their price to 7,500
bucks. You know, the credit will go
away. Tesla will drop their prices, you
know, 2 or $3,000
or they'll give, you know, I mean, you
can't really buy down rates anymore
because you're already buying them down
to zero. So, uh you will see price drops
on Tesla in Q4. And there is a potential
negative sentiment that will come with
that. like you'll get price drops in Q4
uh uh only part of what the credit goes
away and then you know everybody will
about the pull forward to Q3 with
Tesla because people will be like oh my
gosh like nobody needs to buy a car in
Q4 that's a Tesla because everybody
bought it in Q3. That's kind of exactly
why I think we're going to lose the 414
line and I you know I I've got exposure
to Tesla stock. Uh, so you know, like
I'm I'm saying it as somebody who's got
exposure. Q4 and Q1 will probably suck,
but Q3 should be really nice, but but I
don't think it'll that'll that'll that
will be enough, right? Okay. So now,
like reconcile this at the same time as
you've got this weakness of the
consumer, you have a Federal Reserve
that's like things are good. you know,
labor market data. It's fine, guys. It's
it's fine.
Okay. So, great. But what happens when
all of a sudden we end up getting an
increase in layoffs like what you're
seeing announced at Starbucks, except
it's more ubiquitous, right? What
happens is we will go back to zero
interest rate policies because the
Federal Reserve is basically sitting on
a button there. It's basically like,
hey, as as soon as we see those layoffs
spike uh and and the unemployment rate
skyrockets,
zero interest rate policy. Who's going
to win when that happens?
Lenders, real estate companies, house
hack, knock on wood. Uh and and and but
but the economy is going to suffer.
And people think, well, I mean, if we go
to zero interest rate policy, won't that
be stimulative? Not enough.
You you don't stimulate until the
Federal Reserve actually turns the money
printer on. And so, not a single member
of the Federal Reserve is prepared for
it. I kid you not, there is not a single
member of the Federal Reserve that is
prepared for it. Why do I know this?
Because Myron is the most doubbish out
of all these people. And my says, "Even
though I'm more sanguin on growth than
others at the Fed, and I think that
shelter inflation will come down, and
the longer we stay restrictive, the
greater the risk, I don't think the
labor market is about to fall off of a
cliff."
Okay? So, in other words,
even the most doubbish of doves is like,
"Labor's not going to fall off a cliff."
Fine. Maybe that's true. Maybe the
Atlanta Fed real GDP is right and you
know the economy is booming at these
levels. That's fine. Of course, it's
going to boom at these levels when we
haven't seen the unemployment yet. But
if for some reason we get that spike in
unemployment, the GDP will come down as
a lagging indicator
because spending will drop, earnings
will plummet, and then you'll see GDP
come down and then it'll get revised
down too. So none of the Fed members,
even the most dovish, are ready for it.
So that's this balance that we're
running into. Now that actually creates
some interesting, you know, you know,
potential investments for gold or the
dollar. While we're higher for longer,
the dollar does well. So the dollar goes
went up today because we're only pricing
in 1.57 cuts. Uh gold is flat but
realistically should be up because
there's a greater chance in my opinion
of the Fed making a policy mistake and
gold loves being a safe haven in the
event of a policy mistake. Now you've
even got people like Jeffrey Gonlock who
are saying you should have a 20 up to a
25% allocation in your portfolio to
gold. That's insane.
That's like such a massive exposure. But
uh you know that's because he he views
uh stocks as expensive and uh and gold
as a great hedge. May maybe it's not
insane. Uh you go into a recession once
you're in a recession, gold usually
doesn't do that well. Uh gold usually
does well with the fear of a recession
potentially coming. It's very
interesting. But uh this breaks down for
you what happened this morning with
data. this this hot data that shot
yields up, unpricing Fed rate cuts, and
then you get more neutrality from the
Fed, a Fed that's basically like this,
hey guys, you know, I mean, really what
you have is you have the Fed like here's
the range of the Fed funds rate, right?
And all of them are dancing around the
middle. They're like, uh, we might need
to vacasillate down a little bit. Oh, we
might need to vacasillate up a little
bit. You know, they're kind of here. And
I'm like, bro, if the labor market
falls, you all aren't going to be
vacasillating around here. You're going
to be like, oh crap. Yeah, rates going
to come down so dang fast. Uh, and so
rates going yields going up today
increases the risk of a policy mistake.
Now, why why and this is just education
for you. Why in the meet Kevin
membership this morning did I think
markets were going to go up after the
selloff this morning? Why did I think
that? I thought it because
we are not going to fully price in a
recession today. The data today like
unpricing you know 40 bips or 30 bips of
interest rate pricing for the year is
not enough to get the market to
sustainably sell off. It's not that bad
of news. If anything, it's decent news
and the Fed's just being neutral. So
yeah, the market is responding to the
Fed's neutrality here, but who cares?
Who cares? They didn't justify the Q's
being down 130 basis points. I literally
wrote this morning in our Meet Kevin
membership, I think the Q's at most
today deserve to be down 100 basis
points because the news isn't that bad.
And then we watched it live. We saw it
go to 130. I called it. I said, this is
extended. We called it the double bottom
and it was up from there because it
doesn't it doesn't deserve on this what
we got today to be down that
dramatically. This is just weenie babies
waking up in the morning hitting the
sell button. That's all that was. Uh and
then we we saw in this double dip that
sell volume was actually falling. Mind
you, if if you join the ME Kevin Alpha
reports, you could literally watch me
say that recorded this morning. Oh, you
know, volume lower volume on the
downside here. It's not going to last.
We're going back up
saying meet me Kevin.com got you got to
be part of the Mec Kevin membership you
know we got like what is it on a regular
like on a live I think we've got like
1500 of y'all watching uh and then you
know when you include replays it's like
three or 4 thousand of y'all uh in the
meet Kevin membership so thank you for
those of you who are there but uh yeah
so so this breaks down exactly
what went on today and it's useful to
know for the future. Uh so so I'm a big
fan of that. Somebody says too damn late
drone. Oh yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Sean Moon says gold up, bad job, gold
up, rate cut, gold up, recession.
So, it's not true that only hot
inflation uh hurts gold in my opinion
because I actually think hot inflation
helps gold because people see it as as a
hedge, right? And they see it as as um
uh a a wealth protector during
inflationary time. Uh but what I do
think you have wrong is I do think in a
rec uh in a in a recession, gold
typically falls. gold rises going into a
recession because people use it as a
fear product, but once people are in a
recession, it also gets sold. So, it's
an interesting duality on gold there. Uh
but uh but yeah, no, I mean like at the
moment, sure. Yeah, it it certainly it
makes sense that uh uh gold's
interesting. Somebody Russ Moment says
buy McDonald's. McDonald's does
typically uh do well. Like the thing
about McDonald's is
it loses less in a recession.
Historically, I've studied this.
Historically, it loses less in a
recession, but it still doesn't mean
it's a moon, right, in a recession. Uh,
anyway,
>> knows about this.
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>> Kevin Pra there, financial analyst and
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