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Well, the Federal Reserve is uh

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continuing to poop on the expectation

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that markets should get three full rate

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cuts uh including the one that we just

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got. And now we're pricing in just one

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and a half rate cuts. Why? Well, because

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past data is pretty good. And most

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members at the Fed are telling us we

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good. We don't need to rush down. But

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there are some calling for emergency

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cuts. And it's not just my or at least

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calling for more rapid cuts. We got to

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talk about that and sort of balance all

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of this out with companies still laying

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off. Bosch cutting 13,000 jobs though

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most of that is happening in Germany.

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The economy is still globally connected

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and it makes you wonder what's going on

0:45

because you've also got CarMax

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plummeting off a cliff. Starbucks

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announcing a billion dollars in

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restructuring store closings and about

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900 corporate layoffs. on top of the,00

0:57

corporate layoffs they just did. And

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it's starting to make people wonder, is

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the economic data good because of a big

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old pull forward earlier this year or

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like is this a continuation of hopefully

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a soft landing? Because when CarMax is

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down 23%

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on top of already being on a massive

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downtrend, I mean, look at this. This is

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like this is literally like the, you

1:25

know, meme where it's like and it's

1:29

gone. Like this is like a rugpull on

1:32

CarMax is what this looks like. It's

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terrible. So, how do we reconcile all of

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this? What's being said in that earnings

1:41

call? What are they talking about? And

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what is CarMax doing with consumers

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right now? Is there potentially a red

1:47

flag there? Well, we got to touch on all

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of that. Uh, I do want to make a quick

1:51

note that in the course member live

1:53

stream this morning, we killed it. Okay,

1:55

we called this double bottom and said go

1:58

bullish. It's why I was late to the

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public open live stream this morning.

2:02

Uh, and you've got folks uh in the chat

2:05

uh who are saying things uh that uh that

2:08

are very nice. So, I appreciate y'all.

2:10

Uh so, some of you saying things like,

2:12

"Hey, the course pays for itself at 10x.

2:16

Uh you know what you said this morning

2:18

on the bottom? nailed it. My calls are

2:21

printing here. Wayne says, "So worth it.

2:24

Course is on point today in conjunction

2:26

with what he said uh where the market

2:30

seemed to be done with the big dump this

2:31

morning. I bought coals and they're

2:32

still printing." Thanks for saying that,

2:34

Wayne. That was really nice of you. So

2:35

really cool. I mean, you know, it was a

2:37

great day for the meet Kevin Alpha

2:39

Report. And keep in mind that's

2:40

something we've been doing over the last

2:41

few days is we set up sort of the

2:44

expectations for the day. But then this

2:46

morning we actually I I walked everyone

2:49

through this drop and my expectation was

2:52

the worst we were going to go was

2:54

negative 100 basis points and when we

2:56

pulled through that I said volume watch

2:59

volumes we rejected VWAP and you can

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watch this. This is recorded like I'm

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not just like rewriting history here.

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You can watch me say this. go. This is a

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very weak rejective we VWAP. I bet you

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we will have another stab up and we will

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be breaking straight through to the

3:15

upside. And sure enough, we formed a

3:17

double bottom and it was straight up. We

3:20

did all of that technical analysis live

3:23

and we even bought the dip. So, we're

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down in this area. So, if you're not

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all that out of the way, let's get into

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this data. So, look, we we have a list

3:45

of Fed members who spoke this morning.

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Note tells us that inflation is still

3:49

too high and the labor market is still

3:51

in balance. That is probably the worst

3:53

thing the Fed could say right now

3:55

because obviously the labor market is

3:57

weakening, but they're choosing to look

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at signals uh that are,

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how should I put it, less less desirable

4:07

because they're looking at just broad

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unemployment rates and unemployment

4:12

claims. That's what the that's what

4:14

markets are doing right now. Markets are

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saying, "Hey, but Kevin, unemployment

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claims this morning came in fine and

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continuing claims were fine." This is

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true, but this is also some of the most

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noisy data we could look at. And this is

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where the concern is that the Fed is

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going to make a massive policy mistake.

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Initial claims this morning 218 versus

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233 expected, 232 on the prior.

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Continuing claims were down 6K, although

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the prior was revised up 8K. So, you

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know, this is noisy, noisy data. I mean,

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two weeks ago we had horrible

4:46

unemployment claims and then the state

4:48

of Texas, who's basically a Trump shill,

4:50

is like, "Oh, you know, that was only

4:51

because of fraud." Oh, okay. One time

4:54

out of nowhere, all of a sudden, that

4:55

one week, oh yeah, that was only high

4:57

because of fraud,

4:59

whatever. So, the data that people are

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paying attention to, specifically the

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Fed, a lot of the Fed members, I worry,

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is going to prove that the Fed will end

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up being too late. And the biggest thing

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that I pay attention to regularly are

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updates to that 27 weeks long-term

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unemployed level because it says that

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these people have been unemployed so

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long that they're not even being counted

5:24

as unemployed anymore. If you added

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these people to the long-term unemploy

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or to the current unemployment rate, the

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current unemployment rate would be

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substantially higher. In addition to

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that, we've actually seen uh the labor

5:36

force participation rate come down. And

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if the labor force participation rate

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stabilizes back up and we get higher

5:47

layoffs, we're going to be in a very

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rapid 5 to 6% unemployment rate almost

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overnight. And the Fed is going to be

5:55

blind to it. This is the labor force

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participation rate. You can see that we

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did have a downtrend post uh the

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financial crisis, but look at what's

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recently happened here postco. you had

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this big push up in the labor force

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participation rate and since 2025 the

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end of 24 beginning of 25 you've seen

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this drop. I think this drop is a little

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easier to see if we go to the quarterly

6:20

data just cuz it's going to smooth this

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out a little more. See this drop right

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here? If this drop normalizes back up to

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where we were over here,

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we're going to see the unemployment rate

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skyrocket. And this is what in my

6:33

opinion the Fed is blind to right now.

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Again, you had Schmid this morning tell

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you, "Hey, the labor market is in

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balance. Inflation is still too high."

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Goullesby says, "Hey, hey, whoa, whoa,

6:44

whoa. You know, we got to be careful

6:46

about front-loading cuts because we

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don't want inflation to to, you know, uh

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uh to take off and end up proving to be

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more persistent and uh we're optimistic.

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We're on a golden path here." Oh, that's

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great. Now, the Fed is talking about a

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golden path. Like, everything's gilded.

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I guess everything's fine. But labor

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market data shows per Goulsby moderate

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cooling. But Daly clarifies this and

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she's like, "Look, we don't really see a

7:15

recession right now. Stagflation doesn't

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seem like it's around the corner, but we

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don't really want any more softening in

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the labor market. We just want it to

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stop." We had literally like four

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speeches this morning. It was insane.

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So, I'm giving you the TLDDR here.

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Bowman says tariffs will have a one-time

7:30

price impact, but it's appropriate to

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shift to focus on jobs versus inflation

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because we're within the range, the

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flexible inflation range of 2%. And the

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labor market might be more fragile than

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expected and therefore we should justify

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more cuts now, but she's in the

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minority. see Bowman and Myron, they're

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in the minority of emergency cuts uh or

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or at least rapid cuts now, not going to

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zero, but get rapidly off of that

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restrictive level so you stop causing

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more damage to the labor market. I think

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they're both right. I think Bowman and

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uh Myron are right that we should be

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lower. We should be at like maybe a two

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or two and a half% rate uh for a Fed

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funds rate instead of a four where we

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sit now. So we can hope to minimize some

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more of that damage of the labor market

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because remember what you're seeing at

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CarMax and this is really important. So

8:24

go back to dude the freaking Q's calls

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keep printing. That's what we called

8:28

that double bottom line in the course

8:30

member live stream this morning. I'm so

8:32

happy about that. I'm so happy about

8:33

well I'm not I mean I bought the dip too

8:35

but I'm I'm so happy that we were able

8:38

to pull that off in the meet Kevin

8:39

membership this morning live. I'm like,

8:42

watch watch it go straight up from here

8:45

and and it did uh on a double B. It's

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this is great. So, congrats to all of

8:50

those of you in the meet membership. But

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anyway, understand what CarMax said this

8:54

morning. Sar said that

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in in their analyst earnings call, we

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looked at sort of the live trans grip of

9:04

it because the earnings call was going

9:06

on this morning during while we were in

9:07

the meet membership and CarX was saying,

9:10

"Hey guys, listen. Um, yeah, we know

9:13

we're getting into more subprime loans,

9:16

but uh we're trying to remain

9:18

competitive here, guys." Okay, hold on a

9:21

second. Hold on a second. Hold on a

9:22

second. Hold on a second. That's really

9:24

bad. Okay, that's really bad. I mean,

9:27

yesterday we did a video talking

9:29

aboutricolor and, you know, the the auto

9:31

the other auto group, these bankruptcies

9:33

coming in in the autos. That's not good.

9:36

But it could be because, you know,

9:38

people are getting deported and and

9:40

they're the companies could have just

9:41

sucked, right? But now CarMax is telling

9:45

you guys,

9:47

uh, look, uh, we're going to cut SGNA to

9:50

get margins up. Don't worry, it's not

9:53

going to affect our advertising, but uh

9:55

we are uh we're not as competitive as we

9:58

would like to be. So, we've got some

10:01

repositioning to work to try to get

10:03

better. And then, you know, one of the

10:05

analysts is like, "So, you're going to

10:06

do uh more shitty loans, like more

10:09

subprimes?" Like, isn't that bad going

10:11

into a potential recession? like

10:15

well you see

10:19

so it's like it's not good and so the

10:22

car situation today begs the question is

10:27

the data that we're getting this GDP

10:30

data that came in so hot this morning is

10:34

it saying that the economy is strong or

10:38

is it saying that the economy has been

10:40

strong because a artificial intelligence

10:44

almost certainly because of artificial

10:46

intelligence. Deutsche Bank this morning

10:48

suggested we would have been in a

10:49

recession in Q1 had it not been for the

10:51

AI buildouts. Okay, great. Uh but

10:56

you and then you look at capital good

10:58

orders, you know, capital good orders

10:59

coming up 6% today versus the zero

11:02

expected. Uh and that's that's on top of

11:04

the 08 which was slightly revised down,

11:06

but it's on top of the 08 we got last

11:08

month. That's really good capital good

11:10

orders numbers. really good. So people

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are like companies are investing in

11:14

infrastructure. Uh but is it potentially

11:18

is CarMax potentially the sort of

11:20

leading indicator that now we're getting

11:23

so much stress amongst the consumer that

11:26

is bubbling up. You start getting the

11:28

subprime lenders go bankrupt. you start

11:31

getting Starbucks, the Chipotles, the

11:34

regular kind of consumer stocks start

11:36

having stress and start bubbling up and

11:38

start laying off more people, which just

11:40

leads to lower sales. You know, the

11:42

cycle begins. The thing that's booming

11:44

again, that AI buildout, but is it also

11:48

possible we had a really big pull

11:50

forward of people blowing money on

11:52

stuff? So the idea here is that you know

11:56

especially with CarMax which they

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reference as well maybe people were so

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worried about the impact of tariffs they

12:02

bought a car in Q1 or in Q2 during the

12:04

pause they're like let's get ahead of

12:06

tariffs let's buy a car now they buy a

12:08

car and then what ends up happening

12:11

nobody's buying a car in Q3 because well

12:14

technically their Q2 their Q2 is funny

12:16

their Q2 ends August 31st so it's June

12:19

July August so you get this this you low

12:23

because there was such a pull forward.

12:25

You're going to get that by the way with

12:26

Tesla as well. Like I think Tesla's

12:28

going to have a a record delivery number

12:32

here in the third quarter for Tesla. Uh

12:35

you know with with deliveries that are

12:37

coming out I think next week. We'll get

12:38

those next week or the week after that.

12:40

We'll get delivery numbers you know

12:41

first part of October here. And those

12:43

numbers will show how many deliveries we

12:47

were able to get with an expiring $7,500

12:50

coupon code. It is literally like, you

12:53

know, Kevin saying, "Hey, the Me Kevin

12:55

membership price goes up tomorrow uh

12:57

night," which that is what it's

12:58

scheduled for. You go to meet Kevin.com

13:00

and you can see that. But that's

13:02

extreme. I mean, like, we raise the

13:04

price of the Me Kevin membership over

13:05

time because we think we keep adding

13:07

more value, especially a day like today.

13:08

We just freaking killed it with the

13:09

calls. But, uh, and buying the dip at

13:12

like the perfect time, but you go to

13:14

Tesla, this is a $7,500

13:17

coupon code that's expired. That's

13:19

insane. Now, Tesla will probably have to

13:21

drop their prices to be competitive in

13:22

Q4 and Q1, but I don't think they're

13:24

going to drop their price to 7,500

13:26

bucks. You know, the credit will go

13:28

away. Tesla will drop their prices, you

13:30

know, 2 or $3,000

13:32

or they'll give, you know, I mean, you

13:34

can't really buy down rates anymore

13:36

because you're already buying them down

13:37

to zero. So, uh you will see price drops

13:40

on Tesla in Q4. And there is a potential

13:43

negative sentiment that will come with

13:44

that. like you'll get price drops in Q4

13:48

uh uh only part of what the credit goes

13:50

away and then you know everybody will

13:52

about the pull forward to Q3 with

13:54

Tesla because people will be like oh my

13:55

gosh like nobody needs to buy a car in

13:57

Q4 that's a Tesla because everybody

13:59

bought it in Q3. That's kind of exactly

14:02

why I think we're going to lose the 414

14:04

line and I you know I I've got exposure

14:06

to Tesla stock. Uh, so you know, like

14:10

I'm I'm saying it as somebody who's got

14:12

exposure. Q4 and Q1 will probably suck,

14:15

but Q3 should be really nice, but but I

14:17

don't think it'll that'll that'll that

14:19

will be enough, right? Okay. So now,

14:23

like reconcile this at the same time as

14:26

you've got this weakness of the

14:29

consumer, you have a Federal Reserve

14:32

that's like things are good. you know,

14:35

labor market data. It's fine, guys. It's

14:38

it's fine.

14:42

Okay. So, great. But what happens when

14:48

all of a sudden we end up getting an

14:51

increase in layoffs like what you're

14:54

seeing announced at Starbucks, except

14:55

it's more ubiquitous, right? What

14:58

happens is we will go back to zero

15:01

interest rate policies because the

15:02

Federal Reserve is basically sitting on

15:04

a button there. It's basically like,

15:07

hey, as as soon as we see those layoffs

15:10

spike uh and and the unemployment rate

15:13

skyrockets,

15:15

zero interest rate policy. Who's going

15:17

to win when that happens?

15:19

Lenders, real estate companies, house

15:23

hack, knock on wood. Uh and and and but

15:26

but the economy is going to suffer.

15:29

And people think, well, I mean, if we go

15:31

to zero interest rate policy, won't that

15:32

be stimulative? Not enough.

15:35

You you don't stimulate until the

15:37

Federal Reserve actually turns the money

15:38

printer on. And so, not a single member

15:41

of the Federal Reserve is prepared for

15:43

it. I kid you not, there is not a single

15:46

member of the Federal Reserve that is

15:47

prepared for it. Why do I know this?

15:49

Because Myron is the most doubbish out

15:52

of all these people. And my says, "Even

15:55

though I'm more sanguin on growth than

15:57

others at the Fed, and I think that

15:59

shelter inflation will come down, and

16:01

the longer we stay restrictive, the

16:04

greater the risk, I don't think the

16:06

labor market is about to fall off of a

16:09

cliff."

16:11

Okay? So, in other words,

16:16

even the most doubbish of doves is like,

16:20

"Labor's not going to fall off a cliff."

16:23

Fine. Maybe that's true. Maybe the

16:26

Atlanta Fed real GDP is right and you

16:29

know the economy is booming at these

16:31

levels. That's fine. Of course, it's

16:33

going to boom at these levels when we

16:34

haven't seen the unemployment yet. But

16:35

if for some reason we get that spike in

16:37

unemployment, the GDP will come down as

16:40

a lagging indicator

16:42

because spending will drop, earnings

16:44

will plummet, and then you'll see GDP

16:45

come down and then it'll get revised

16:47

down too. So none of the Fed members,

16:50

even the most dovish, are ready for it.

16:53

So that's this balance that we're

16:54

running into. Now that actually creates

16:57

some interesting, you know, you know,

16:59

potential investments for gold or the

17:01

dollar. While we're higher for longer,

17:04

the dollar does well. So the dollar goes

17:06

went up today because we're only pricing

17:08

in 1.57 cuts. Uh gold is flat but

17:14

realistically should be up because

17:16

there's a greater chance in my opinion

17:18

of the Fed making a policy mistake and

17:20

gold loves being a safe haven in the

17:23

event of a policy mistake. Now you've

17:25

even got people like Jeffrey Gonlock who

17:26

are saying you should have a 20 up to a

17:29

25% allocation in your portfolio to

17:32

gold. That's insane.

17:36

That's like such a massive exposure. But

17:39

uh you know that's because he he views

17:42

uh stocks as expensive and uh and gold

17:45

as a great hedge. May maybe it's not

17:47

insane. Uh you go into a recession once

17:50

you're in a recession, gold usually

17:52

doesn't do that well. Uh gold usually

17:54

does well with the fear of a recession

17:57

potentially coming. It's very

17:59

interesting. But uh this breaks down for

18:02

you what happened this morning with

18:04

data. this this hot data that shot

18:07

yields up, unpricing Fed rate cuts, and

18:10

then you get more neutrality from the

18:12

Fed, a Fed that's basically like this,

18:14

hey guys, you know, I mean, really what

18:16

you have is you have the Fed like here's

18:18

the range of the Fed funds rate, right?

18:20

And all of them are dancing around the

18:22

middle. They're like, uh, we might need

18:24

to vacasillate down a little bit. Oh, we

18:26

might need to vacasillate up a little

18:27

bit. You know, they're kind of here. And

18:29

I'm like, bro, if the labor market

18:30

falls, you all aren't going to be

18:32

vacasillating around here. You're going

18:33

to be like, oh crap. Yeah, rates going

18:36

to come down so dang fast. Uh, and so

18:40

rates going yields going up today

18:42

increases the risk of a policy mistake.

18:45

Now, why why and this is just education

18:48

for you. Why in the meet Kevin

18:50

membership this morning did I think

18:53

markets were going to go up after the

18:55

selloff this morning? Why did I think

18:57

that? I thought it because

19:02

we are not going to fully price in a

19:05

recession today. The data today like

19:07

unpricing you know 40 bips or 30 bips of

19:11

interest rate pricing for the year is

19:14

not enough to get the market to

19:16

sustainably sell off. It's not that bad

19:19

of news. If anything, it's decent news

19:22

and the Fed's just being neutral. So

19:23

yeah, the market is responding to the

19:25

Fed's neutrality here, but who cares?

19:29

Who cares? They didn't justify the Q's

19:32

being down 130 basis points. I literally

19:36

wrote this morning in our Meet Kevin

19:37

membership, I think the Q's at most

19:40

today deserve to be down 100 basis

19:42

points because the news isn't that bad.

19:44

And then we watched it live. We saw it

19:46

go to 130. I called it. I said, this is

19:48

extended. We called it the double bottom

19:50

and it was up from there because it

19:53

doesn't it doesn't deserve on this what

19:55

we got today to be down that

19:57

dramatically. This is just weenie babies

19:59

waking up in the morning hitting the

20:00

sell button. That's all that was. Uh and

20:02

then we we saw in this double dip that

20:05

sell volume was actually falling. Mind

20:07

you, if if you join the ME Kevin Alpha

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reports, you could literally watch me

20:11

say that recorded this morning. Oh, you

20:13

know, volume lower volume on the

20:16

downside here. It's not going to last.

20:18

We're going back up

20:20

saying meet me Kevin.com got you got to

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be part of the Mec Kevin membership you

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know we got like what is it on a regular

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like on a live I think we've got like

20:30

1500 of y'all watching uh and then you

20:34

know when you include replays it's like

20:36

three or 4 thousand of y'all uh in the

20:38

meet Kevin membership so thank you for

20:40

those of you who are there but uh yeah

20:42

so so this breaks down exactly

20:46

what went on today and it's useful to

20:49

know for the future. Uh so so I'm a big

20:55

fan of that. Somebody says too damn late

20:58

drone. Oh yeah. Yeah, exactly.

21:02

Sean Moon says gold up, bad job, gold

21:04

up, rate cut, gold up, recession.

21:08

So, it's not true that only hot

21:11

inflation uh hurts gold in my opinion

21:15

because I actually think hot inflation

21:17

helps gold because people see it as as a

21:19

hedge, right? And they see it as as um

21:23

uh a a wealth protector during

21:26

inflationary time. Uh but what I do

21:28

think you have wrong is I do think in a

21:30

rec uh in a in a recession, gold

21:33

typically falls. gold rises going into a

21:36

recession because people use it as a

21:38

fear product, but once people are in a

21:40

recession, it also gets sold. So, it's

21:43

an interesting duality on gold there. Uh

21:46

but uh but yeah, no, I mean like at the

21:48

moment, sure. Yeah, it it certainly it

21:51

makes sense that uh uh gold's

21:53

interesting. Somebody Russ Moment says

21:55

buy McDonald's. McDonald's does

21:58

typically uh do well. Like the thing

22:00

about McDonald's is

22:03

it loses less in a recession.

22:05

Historically, I've studied this.

22:07

Historically, it loses less in a

22:09

recession, but it still doesn't mean

22:10

it's a moon, right, in a recession. Uh,

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anyway,

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>> knows about this.

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>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and

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see how it goes. Congratulations, man.

22:18

You have done so much. People love you.

22:20

People look up to you.

22:21

>> Kevin Pra there, financial analyst and

22:23

YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great to

22:25

get your take.

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