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The Federal Reserve released their

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minutes yesterday. John Williams had

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comments this morning about the path for

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interest rate cuts. And we just got

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research out from the Dallas Fed that

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could tell us where the labor market

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break evens are. And are we actually in

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a normal position? Are we going to

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expect more rate cuts over time? What's

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actually going on out there? Let's break

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down everything that we know right now.

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We're going to start by looking at the

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current expectation for world interest

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rate probabilities. We expect 1.78 cuts

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by the end of the year based on the

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market and by my birthday we'll get that

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second cut fully priced in January 28th.

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And we're not looking for a third cut

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until next summer. So really two cuts

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here at best and maybe third cut by next

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summer. That's current market pricing.

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And a lot of this is on the backs of the

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Fed being a lot more neutral than

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dovish. Even though Jerome Powell told

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us that we're currently running below

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break even employment, he's broadly been

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very

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neutral. Like he hasn't been a dove. He

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hasn't been a hawk. He's been relatively

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neutral. And part of this is because of

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people's inflation psychology. See,

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remember the story that I give of when I

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go to the AT&T store and the guy's like,

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"Oh, I just bought a house. You know, I

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I guess with inflation above 2%, I don't

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understand why the Fed's talking about

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cutting rates. People don't know about

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the labor market. They don't understand

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break evens. They don't care about any

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of that crap. All they hear is, "What?

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They're lowering rates and inflation's

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not yet at target. That's weird. What?"

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That's all they hear. And the risk there

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is that inflation expectations run away.

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And this is exactly what Fed Williams

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warns. But he actually gives us a really

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clear breakdown of what to anticipate

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when it comes to rate cuts in the long

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term. And this is something that's

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actually really really bullish house

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hack cuz you're going to get a long-term

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expectation just a moment. I'll I'll

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break it down. I'll explain. If you

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haven't seen the house hack update video

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and the reinvest update, go watch that.

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It's on the channel uh meet Kevin under

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the live tab. But anyway, let's first

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before we hit Williams' long-term

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forecast, let's understand what the

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Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas just

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released. They released this today,

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October 9th, recent employment figures.

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They basically talk about the break

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evens and they talk about how labor

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break evens used to be around 250,000

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because in 2023 we had data showing us

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that our population was exploding. The

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growth rates of our population were

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massive. You know, well over 1 and a4 to

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1 and a.5%. Uh and so very very large

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moves here uh in in an expanding

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population. Part of it because you know

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you've got 400,000 Venezuelans who get

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temporary protective status under Joe

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Biden. You get hundreds of thousands of

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Ukrainians who were given asylum in the

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United States. You get uh an open border

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basically between the United States and

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Mexico. So you've got this explosion of

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of population coming in. Mind you, there

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is some benefit to population coming in.

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I mean, the economist yesterday had a

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fantastic piece where they talked about,

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hey, immigration generally reduces your

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net per capita GDP. Like, it usually

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helps. It usually doesn't hurt. We're

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not generally taking from Americans.

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We're generally growing. So, the

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economist thinks longer term there are

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some real problems about not having a

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better immigration system, like illegal

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immigration. Nobody's advocating for

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illegal immigration. But the Dallas Fed

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guy, this economist, he basically tells

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us bottom line that he thinks we're

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sitting at about 30,000 as a break even

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labor market report. And current

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estimates are that, you know, we

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probably over the last 4 months have had

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a break even or or employment reads

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roughly at break even. So, it's no

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surprise the unemployment rate isn't

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changing because uh jobs are being added

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at roughly a level that's equal to the

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expectation of the break even rate. Now,

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this in addition to an aging population

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has this economist suggesting that the

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labor force participation rate is likely

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to continue to trend down. And as it

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continues to trend down, you actually

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end up subtracting from the break even

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rate even more. And that's how he ends

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up getting to this 30,000 break even

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man, it's like I feel like I feel

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it, but man, that's spammy. Like, you

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know, a lot of people use the Meet Kevin

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on my videos, but I tried. Like, I don't

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as I'm filming this, it's like boom,

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boom, boom, boom, boom. Oh, man. Uh but

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anyway, so the break even rate is 30,000

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is what he's arguing and part of that is

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because of the cooling participation

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rate. Now be careful because if the

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participation rate starts rising, the

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unemployment rate will skyrocket. If

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layoffs start rising, the unemployment

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rate will skyrocket. He's not capturing

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that in his break evens. Both of those

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things could ruin what this guy is

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saying. So be careful with this. Mind

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you also the level of 27 weeks

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unemployed you know workers is a sign of

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labor market weakness. Now you zoom out

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over 10 years obviously postcoid that

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level was a lot higher because you know

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people lost their jobs in co or just

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stayed out of the labor force. But this

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level has been steadily rising which is

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generally a leading indicator of

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recession. So even though this economist

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is telling us, hey, we're good at

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30,000,

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we still have leading indicators of

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recession that tell us, hey, there there

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are underlying weaknesses. Not only

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long-term unemployed going up, that's

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one. Number two, if layoffs normalize,

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we're screwed. And if the labor force

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participation rate goes up again, we're

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screwed. All of those things can really

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screw all of this economic analysis on

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the break even rate of employment. But

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what the break even rate of employment

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does and what this research does right

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now is it says rates are probably going

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to stay higher for longer for the near

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term. We're not going to get frantic

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cuts until we get a serious

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normalization and layoffs or that

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participation rate because they're

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basically going to justify a slow rate

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cutting regime until those numbers

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change. This is the Federal Reserve

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justifying why we're going to go slow.

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And part of it has to do with inflation,

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which is where the Williams part comes

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up. Now, in the Fed minutes, the Fed was

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nervous about cutting because of

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inflation that's obviously above 2%.

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Expectations are that inflation is going

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to trend towards and maybe bob around

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3%. Basically, and this has a lot of

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people wondering like, why is the Fed

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cutting when inflation is 3%. This is

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insane. And Williams actually makes a

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tells us is really interesting is I want

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you to set this up for a moment. So

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near-term the Fed's worried about

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inflation. They're going to signal

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they're worried about inflation and

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they're going to justify or rationalize

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why the labor market is doing what it's

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doing. Right? Like write write these

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things down for a moment. and and I

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think there's a value to this so you

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could see a little bit more clearly

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what's going on with the Fed here. Okay,

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so what are they doing? They are

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rationalizing low break evens. Okay,

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that means rates higher for longer for

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now, right? In addition to rationalizing

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lower break evens, what are they doing?

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They're signaling fear over 3% inflation

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hitting psychology rates higher for

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longer, right?

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then

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we still have not no

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layoff uh normalization or increase in

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um what's it called the uh participation

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rate which also implies rates higher for

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longer. Okay, that said,

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okay, we know

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we know long-term unemployed uh

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unemployment rising is a harbinger of

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bad news. Okay, it's a leading

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indicator. Now, what ends up happening

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when

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unemployment gets worse, when layoffs uh

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and participation normalize, the Fed

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knows they can rapidly cut.

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And take a look at literally what we

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have here, what Williams says. Williams

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says that as the unemployment rate I

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can't remember exactly where it was uh

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feds credibility we need to uh you know

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say with credible with inflation we need

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to do it in a way that minimizes the

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labor market cooling more it's somewhat

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a way of saying like hey you know we've

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got to be aggressive on inflation

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Williams is saying we got to be

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aggressive on inflation but we also

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don't want to screw up the labor market

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because there are some underlying

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issues. Um, so we think there's more

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downside risk to the labor market

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employment and that's something that

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takes some of the upside risk off of

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inflation. Okay, why is that critical?

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Okay, because

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when SH9 hits the fan, as Williams

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implies here, what happens?

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Deflation.

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the inflation problem will evaporate

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suddenly when the job deterioration

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hits. But for now, in the near term,

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like probably probably next, you know, 3

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to 6 months, hard to say rates are going

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to plummet.

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next few years

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almost certainly uh a plummet is being

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forecast by the long-term unemployed uh

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and distortions in the um uh beverage

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curve. You already know it, beverage,

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beverage curve, whatever you want to

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call it, right?

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So, this is huge. This is uh this is

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really big and it's really important to

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understand that because it tells you

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near-term pain for bonds, but long-term

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the direction is clear. The Fed just

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needs the Fed wants to lower rates cuz

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they see the weakening in the labor

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market. They just can't right now

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because of the stubbornness in inflation

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