The Fed Admits to Rugging... UNTIL...
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The Federal Reserve released their
minutes yesterday. John Williams had
comments this morning about the path for
interest rate cuts. And we just got
research out from the Dallas Fed that
could tell us where the labor market
break evens are. And are we actually in
a normal position? Are we going to
expect more rate cuts over time? What's
actually going on out there? Let's break
down everything that we know right now.
We're going to start by looking at the
current expectation for world interest
rate probabilities. We expect 1.78 cuts
by the end of the year based on the
market and by my birthday we'll get that
second cut fully priced in January 28th.
And we're not looking for a third cut
until next summer. So really two cuts
here at best and maybe third cut by next
summer. That's current market pricing.
And a lot of this is on the backs of the
Fed being a lot more neutral than
dovish. Even though Jerome Powell told
us that we're currently running below
break even employment, he's broadly been
very
neutral. Like he hasn't been a dove. He
hasn't been a hawk. He's been relatively
neutral. And part of this is because of
people's inflation psychology. See,
remember the story that I give of when I
go to the AT&T store and the guy's like,
"Oh, I just bought a house. You know, I
I guess with inflation above 2%, I don't
understand why the Fed's talking about
cutting rates. People don't know about
the labor market. They don't understand
break evens. They don't care about any
of that crap. All they hear is, "What?
They're lowering rates and inflation's
not yet at target. That's weird. What?"
That's all they hear. And the risk there
is that inflation expectations run away.
And this is exactly what Fed Williams
warns. But he actually gives us a really
clear breakdown of what to anticipate
when it comes to rate cuts in the long
term. And this is something that's
actually really really bullish house
hack cuz you're going to get a long-term
expectation just a moment. I'll I'll
break it down. I'll explain. If you
haven't seen the house hack update video
and the reinvest update, go watch that.
It's on the channel uh meet Kevin under
the live tab. But anyway, let's first
before we hit Williams' long-term
forecast, let's understand what the
Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas just
released. They released this today,
October 9th, recent employment figures.
They basically talk about the break
evens and they talk about how labor
break evens used to be around 250,000
because in 2023 we had data showing us
that our population was exploding. The
growth rates of our population were
massive. You know, well over 1 and a4 to
1 and a.5%. Uh and so very very large
moves here uh in in an expanding
population. Part of it because you know
you've got 400,000 Venezuelans who get
temporary protective status under Joe
Biden. You get hundreds of thousands of
Ukrainians who were given asylum in the
United States. You get uh an open border
basically between the United States and
Mexico. So you've got this explosion of
of population coming in. Mind you, there
is some benefit to population coming in.
I mean, the economist yesterday had a
fantastic piece where they talked about,
hey, immigration generally reduces your
net per capita GDP. Like, it usually
helps. It usually doesn't hurt. We're
not generally taking from Americans.
We're generally growing. So, the
economist thinks longer term there are
some real problems about not having a
better immigration system, like illegal
immigration. Nobody's advocating for
illegal immigration. But the Dallas Fed
guy, this economist, he basically tells
us bottom line that he thinks we're
sitting at about 30,000 as a break even
labor market report. And current
estimates are that, you know, we
probably over the last 4 months have had
a break even or or employment reads
roughly at break even. So, it's no
surprise the unemployment rate isn't
changing because uh jobs are being added
at roughly a level that's equal to the
expectation of the break even rate. Now,
this in addition to an aging population
has this economist suggesting that the
labor force participation rate is likely
to continue to trend down. And as it
continues to trend down, you actually
end up subtracting from the break even
rate even more. And that's how he ends
up getting to this 30,000 break even
rate. Gosh, Donald Trump just posted 18
freaking times on Truth Social. It's
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when you get like when you have
notifications off for it and like 27 of
these are just pictures of him.
Something about like like all these
stats people were spamming. I always
think it's funny though. I was like,
man, it's like I feel like I feel
compelled to have notifications on for
it, but man, that's spammy. Like, you
know, a lot of people use the Meet Kevin
app, which is free to get notifications
on my videos, but I tried. Like, I don't
want people to get spammed with
notifications. Like, when we send a
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member live stream, like, you know, I'm
buying this stuff for the next 10 years
or whatever, and I send that
notification out, like, I want people to
like get the notification. I get
spammed. Come on, Trump. It's just like
as I'm filming this, it's like boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom. Oh, man. Uh but
anyway, so the break even rate is 30,000
is what he's arguing and part of that is
because of the cooling participation
rate. Now be careful because if the
participation rate starts rising, the
unemployment rate will skyrocket. If
layoffs start rising, the unemployment
rate will skyrocket. He's not capturing
that in his break evens. Both of those
things could ruin what this guy is
saying. So be careful with this. Mind
you also the level of 27 weeks
unemployed you know workers is a sign of
labor market weakness. Now you zoom out
over 10 years obviously postcoid that
level was a lot higher because you know
people lost their jobs in co or just
stayed out of the labor force. But this
level has been steadily rising which is
generally a leading indicator of
recession. So even though this economist
is telling us, hey, we're good at
30,000,
we still have leading indicators of
recession that tell us, hey, there there
are underlying weaknesses. Not only
long-term unemployed going up, that's
one. Number two, if layoffs normalize,
we're screwed. And if the labor force
participation rate goes up again, we're
screwed. All of those things can really
screw all of this economic analysis on
the break even rate of employment. But
what the break even rate of employment
does and what this research does right
now is it says rates are probably going
to stay higher for longer for the near
term. We're not going to get frantic
cuts until we get a serious
normalization and layoffs or that
participation rate because they're
basically going to justify a slow rate
cutting regime until those numbers
change. This is the Federal Reserve
justifying why we're going to go slow.
And part of it has to do with inflation,
which is where the Williams part comes
up. Now, in the Fed minutes, the Fed was
nervous about cutting because of
inflation that's obviously above 2%.
Expectations are that inflation is going
to trend towards and maybe bob around
3%. Basically, and this has a lot of
people wondering like, why is the Fed
cutting when inflation is 3%. This is
insane. And Williams actually makes a
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tells us is really interesting is I want
you to set this up for a moment. So
near-term the Fed's worried about
inflation. They're going to signal
they're worried about inflation and
they're going to justify or rationalize
why the labor market is doing what it's
doing. Right? Like write write these
things down for a moment. and and I
think there's a value to this so you
could see a little bit more clearly
what's going on with the Fed here. Okay,
so what are they doing? They are
rationalizing low break evens. Okay,
that means rates higher for longer for
now, right? In addition to rationalizing
lower break evens, what are they doing?
They're signaling fear over 3% inflation
hitting psychology rates higher for
longer, right?
then
we still have not no
layoff uh normalization or increase in
um what's it called the uh participation
rate which also implies rates higher for
longer. Okay, that said,
okay, we know
we know long-term unemployed uh
unemployment rising is a harbinger of
bad news. Okay, it's a leading
indicator. Now, what ends up happening
when
unemployment gets worse, when layoffs uh
and participation normalize, the Fed
knows they can rapidly cut.
And take a look at literally what we
have here, what Williams says. Williams
says that as the unemployment rate I
can't remember exactly where it was uh
feds credibility we need to uh you know
say with credible with inflation we need
to do it in a way that minimizes the
labor market cooling more it's somewhat
a way of saying like hey you know we've
got to be aggressive on inflation
Williams is saying we got to be
aggressive on inflation but we also
don't want to screw up the labor market
because there are some underlying
issues. Um, so we think there's more
downside risk to the labor market
employment and that's something that
takes some of the upside risk off of
inflation. Okay, why is that critical?
Okay, because
when SH9 hits the fan, as Williams
implies here, what happens?
Deflation.
the inflation problem will evaporate
suddenly when the job deterioration
hits. But for now, in the near term,
like probably probably next, you know, 3
to 6 months, hard to say rates are going
to plummet.
next few years
almost certainly uh a plummet is being
forecast by the long-term unemployed uh
and distortions in the um uh beverage
curve. You already know it, beverage,
beverage curve, whatever you want to
call it, right?
So, this is huge. This is uh this is
really big and it's really important to
understand that because it tells you
near-term pain for bonds, but long-term
the direction is clear. The Fed just
needs the Fed wants to lower rates cuz
they see the weakening in the labor
market. They just can't right now
because of the stubbornness in inflation
and tariffs definitely contributed to
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