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The Coming Collapse of Credit Suisse | Great Recession 2.0

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September 15 2008 is the day Lehman

0:03

Brothers went bankrupt it was not deemed

0:06

too big to fail and instead it failed

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and contributed to the implosion of

0:11

financial markets that deepened the

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recession of 2008 and ended up leading

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to the great financial crisis as the

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mortgage Market melted down today

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comparisons are being made that a

0:27

company called Credit Suisse or Credit

0:29

Suisse or Swiss bank so depending on how

0:32

you want to call them

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is potentially at a Lehman Brothers

0:36

moment that this Bank potentially with

0:39

many more assets under management than

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Lehman Brothers at the time in 2008

0:43

could potentially go bankrupt and if it

0:47

goes bankrupt it could be even more

0:49

impactful than the bankruptcy of Lehman

0:52

Brothers so if you remember people

0:53

leaving their offices with boxes because

0:56

their company went bankrupt in Manhattan

0:59

that might happen again

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so let's go through some of the madness

1:04

that people are expecting regarding

1:06

Credit Suisse and this potential Lehman

1:09

Brothers moment this is a bank by the

1:12

way that for years if not potentially

1:15

decades has been involved in scandals

1:18

and potentially misleading their clients

1:20

their wealth management clients their

1:22

investors about the safety of particular

1:26

products they were investing in

1:28

especially Bond portfolios which have

1:31

absolutely been obliterated in recent

1:34

months that's because most spawn

1:36

portfolios are down 40 and some Bond

1:38

portfolios are down 50 to 80 percent and

1:42

Credit Suisse is really no exception

1:43

here the problem is

1:46

we have a bunch of compounding issues at

1:49

Credit Suisse that could actually lead

1:51

to not only the substantial reduction

1:53

and valuation of the company and share

1:55

price but the potential ultimate

1:58

bankruptcy a lot of it's is being

2:00

compared to the scandals that Deutsche

2:02

Bank went through in 2016 especially

2:05

since just last year Credit Suisse took

2:08

one of the largest losses from the

2:11

implosion of arcago's Capital Management

2:13

when Bill Huang basically 20x leveraged

2:17

his hedge funds portfolio and ended up

2:21

losing all of it potentially leveraging

2:24

up to 160 billion dollars and Credit

2:27

Suisse taking some of the largest losses

2:29

from that disaster so what do we know

2:33

about Credit Suisse and how is Credit

2:35

Suisse different from Lehman Brothers

2:37

well that is what we're going to start

2:40

with then we'll move into what's

2:42

potentially happening within the

2:45

internal structure of Credit Suisse and

2:47

what could come out of that and why is

2:49

all of this becoming a problem now in

2:51

the first place we'll go through

2:52

everything

2:54

first let's compare Credit Suisse to

2:56

Lehman Brothers one thing that's

2:58

important to remember is that Lehman red

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this is probably the most important

3:01

aspect is Lehman Brothers had over 600

3:04

billion dollars worth of credit default

3:06

swaps and even though that sounds really

3:08

fancy the way I want you to think about

3:10

that is if you have one dollar of real

3:14

estate think about a credit default swap

3:17

as representing about ten dollars of

3:19

real estate so if your one dollar

3:22

doubles you double ten dollars instead

3:24

of having an extra one dollar you would

3:26

actually have an extra

3:27

ten dollars that's the power of Leverage

3:31

via a credit default swap which is a

3:33

derivative think about it kind of like

3:34

trading weekly call options okay for

3:37

those of you option Traders or think

3:38

about it like going to the roulette

3:40

table and picking a number

3:42

all right so that's a credit default

3:45

stop it works great when you're winning

3:47

and you're hitting the right number it

3:48

works really poorly when things are

3:50

collapsing and that's what happened with

3:53

the great financial crisis is the real

3:55

estate market the underlying

3:57

fundamentals of the real estate market

3:59

collapsed that's because people had been

4:03

buying homes with no income no job no

4:06

assets known as in ninja loans people

4:08

were coaxed into short-term variable

4:11

rate loans that started with interest

4:13

rates at negative percent rates or

4:16

potentially zero percent taser rates

4:18

that adjusted within six months to

4:20

Market rates which were like five or six

4:22

percent uh and and many people couldn't

4:25

afford their payments they couldn't

4:27

refinance their homes as they were

4:29

promised so they let homes go into

4:30

foreclosure which led to the collapse in

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valuations of real estate products and

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real estate portfolios and when Real

4:37

Estate came down 40 percent all of a

4:39

sudden that one dollar which was

4:40

actually ten dollars became more like uh

4:43

oh a six dollar loss because of that

4:46

leverage aspect potentially an infinite

4:48

loss of uh or a complete loss I should

4:50

say rather than an infinite loss a

4:52

complete loss of those credit default

4:54

swap contracts is the entire real estate

4:55

market melted down and what you ended up

4:57

with is companies like Lehman Brothers

5:00

going completely bankrupt and massive

5:02

losses at other companies like Goldman

5:04

Sachs or AIG as well some of which of

5:08

course were bailed out unlike Lehman

5:09

Brothers but how is today different from

5:14

this Lehman Brothers moment well on one

5:17

hand it's very different in that the

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crisis we're seeing right now is not one

5:21

based on real estate valuations

5:23

plummeting even though the real estate

5:25

market is starting to turn down we're

5:27

not seeing the insane leverage in the

5:29

Banking and Financial system anymore

5:31

when it comes to credit default swaps

5:33

related to real estate however we are

5:35

seeing leverage related to bonds and

5:39

because the bond market has been getting

5:40

decimated we've seen substantial losses

5:43

at Banks because of the bond market

5:45

certainly nowhere near as Extreme as

5:47

what we saw during the great financial

5:49

crisis because of real estate credit

5:51

default swaps becoming worthless but

5:53

still substantial losses and substantial

5:56

losses are one of the reasons why the

5:59

CEO of Credit Suisse who was actually

6:00

just appointed back in July to sort of

6:03

manage a takeover for credits resource

6:06

sort of restructuring we should say this

6:08

CEO recently came out and said that the

6:10

bank is at a critical moment and the

6:13

financial times has put together

6:14

multiple pieces about how the

6:16

culmination of all the failures of

6:18

Credit Suisse to manage risk over the

6:20

past few years so this new CEO suggests

6:23

that he is going to announce a

6:24

turnaround strategy for the bank at the

6:26

end of October that turnaround strategy

6:28

is widely expected to lead to thousands

6:31

of job cuts and expense cuts and so what

6:34

I actually decided to do is go through

6:36

the investor relations report for Credit

6:39

Suisse to try to understand is this just

6:41

a poorly run Bank are there problems in

6:45

the way the company is operating and is

6:47

that potentially why we're seeing really

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scary charts that are circulating on

6:52

Reddit and circulating on Twitter saying

6:56

and suggesting that uh oh this company's

6:59

going bankrupt because look the cost of

7:02

ensuring yourself or your bond portfolio

7:05

against the default of Credit Suisse has

7:08

skyrocketed you can see the line on the

7:11

right is almost similar to the peak as

7:14

what we saw in 2008 so in other words

7:16

the cost to insure yourself or protect

7:19

yourself on the right is about the same

7:21

as the cost to protect yourself in 2008

7:24

which is sending the signal that oh no

7:26

it's getting so inexpensive to ensure

7:29

ourselves against loss because of Credit

7:32

Suisse there must be some serious

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fundamental issues at the company and

7:36

here's just sort of another image of

7:37

that that's circulating around on Reddit

7:39

and so a lot of folks are saying that's

7:42

it that's it this is Lehman Brothers all

7:45

over again see the cost to insure

7:47

yourself is so high like in 2008 that's

7:49

it the financial crisis is here and my

7:52

goal is to try to understand is there

7:54

something in the investor relations

7:56

report that actually shows me okay no

7:59

this is just a bank that sucks versus a

8:01

bank that's about to be just sort of the

8:03

tip of the iceberg for a financial

8:05

crisis and a financial meltdown and so

8:08

that's exactly what we're going to do

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let's take a look at their financials so

8:13

the first thing that I noticed that's

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most important and I went through this

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with course members in detail this

8:17

morning we went through all of these

8:19

Pages uh and and did some digging so

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this is sort of a quicker or synopsis a

8:25

version of this and one of the things

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that we noticed is that in their wealth

8:29

management division they had net

8:31

revenues that had declined 34 we have a

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34 decline in year-over-year revenues

8:38

which is fine because a lot of companies

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have actually had these sort of 34

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percent declines that's because the

8:44

markets have gone down less people are

8:46

trading so the amount of Revenue that

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you can make through managing other

8:50

people's money or investment banking

8:51

services is obviously declining this is

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the management Division division which

8:55

has their revenue down 34 but what blows

8:59

my mind and sends me a signal that maybe

9:01

the problems at this Bank are really

9:02

just one of poor management is the

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following take a look at this section

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right here it's called the general and

9:10

administrative expense section it

9:12

usually has to do with things like

9:13

litigation and payroll expenses salaries

9:17

and the company actually in the report

9:18

cites exactly these issues some

9:21

litigation expenses but also

9:22

substantially higher salaries in order

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to retain talent and so what's

9:26

remarkable is while their net revenues

9:29

declined 34 percent under wealth

9:32

management they actually bloated their

9:34

General and administration expenses by

9:37

43 and their other compensation

9:40

increased by nine percent so you would

9:42

think think that when all of a sudden

9:44

your revenues are going down 34 that you

9:46

would see a decline in compensation for

9:49

your Bankers uh or or the salaries that

9:51

people earning or the just the head

9:53

count that you have at the company but

9:54

no the company actually became so

9:56

bloated that their entire wealth

9:59

management division this is their wealth

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management page their entire wealth

10:03

management division actually lost

10:05

roughly 100 billion dollars or 96

10:09

billion francs it's almost a one to one

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so if you hear me say dollars or swish

10:12

Swiss Francs they're roughly the same

10:15

they're about one to one but that's not

10:17

even that bad what's actually worse is

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that if you jump over here to the

10:21

Investment Bank side you could see the

10:23

same thing happening here a 40 decline

10:26

in revenues for the Investment Bank

10:29

matched by compensation expenses that

10:33

increased uh or sorry General and

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administrative expenses that increased

10:36

31 and compensation expenses that

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increase 10 percent why does that make

10:40

sense to where all of a sudden a bank

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think that used to be profitable under

10:44

the investment banking side well at

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least in the first quarter they were

10:46

profitable in the second quarter lost

10:48

1.1 billion dollars in just one quarter

10:53

while they're paying these massive

10:55

freaking salaries and their banking or

10:57

their Investment Banking revenue is down

10:59

40 percent now I think this is where

11:01

it's just worth taking a quick little

11:03

pause and saying look if there were some

11:05

massive issues in terms of like credit

11:08

default swaps that all of a sudden are

11:10

becoming worthless uh which I mean don't

11:13

get me wrong like bonds are kind of

11:14

losing a lot of value right then then we

11:16

would expect to see massive write Downs

11:19

on the balance sheet of this company for

11:22

assets losing a lot of value but what

11:26

actually seems to be happening here is

11:28

their clients their customers are losing

11:30

a lot of money and therefore their

11:33

revenues are declining in wealth

11:35

management and Investment Banking while

11:37

at the same time they're spending more

11:38

money on people so so far what I'm

11:41

seeing in this report is is actually not

11:43

something that makes me think that oh

11:45

this is a company that's losing a lot of

11:47

money to bad Investments it's actually a

11:50

company that just sucks at being a

11:52

business remember one of the biggest

11:54

things that I say because obviously you

11:56

know that I'm starting this company

11:57

house hack this startup one of the

11:59

things that I say leads companies and

12:01

businesses to bankruptcy is too much

12:04

staff too much payroll and how are you

12:07

losing 30 to 40 percent in Revenue but

12:10

growing your your staff and bloating

12:13

your staff that that seems illogical

12:14

right and you could see here sort of one

12:16

of their disclaimer primarily due to

12:18

head count growth Investments is one of

12:21

the reasons they're seeing this

12:22

substantial uh sort of move in in

12:26

expenses but on top of that they're

12:28

seeing their clients or in my opinion

12:30

we're seeing their clients uh getting

12:33

pissed off and so you actually see about

12:35

two billion dollars in outflows of

12:37

customer deposits so you're seeing

12:40

people leave the bank now I wouldn't go

12:42

as far as calling this like a run on the

12:44

bank I would just say that people are

12:45

pissed off probably because Credit

12:47

Suisse is losing them money and at the

12:50

same time they're having to refinance

12:51

their debt at a higher in interest rate

12:54

and you can see that here because

12:55

they're paying off old debt and

12:57

refinancing new which rates are

12:59

obviously higher so let's just briefly

13:01

try to reconcile some of what's going on

13:03

so you have losses at the company

13:06

because of bad risk management right so

13:08

they're not only did you lose money on

13:10

archangos but you lost money through

13:12

other scandals and litigation so you

13:14

have expensive scandals and litigation

13:16

so we can you know maybe what we'll do

13:17

is we'll even write these down just so

13:19

we can look at this nice and cleanly

13:21

together here so we have scandals and

13:24

risk failures right that would be like

13:27

archangos that's that's the first thing

13:29

and that's very expensive then they have

13:32

more employees right that's more expense

13:37

uh and at the same time revenue is going

13:40

down this isn't assigned to me of like a

13:43

systemic crisis so far on the financial

13:45

system it's a sign that this Bank sucks

13:48

right uh now there are losses uh are

13:53

leading to

13:55

withdrawals right that also makes sense

13:58

like if you're if you're using them for

14:00

Investment Management Services and

14:02

banking services but then they lose you

14:03

a lot of money because they parked you

14:04

into bonds that they thought were safe

14:06

like uh UK guilts and then all of a

14:08

sudden they lose 50 in value well

14:12

you might be a little pissed so you're

14:15

seeing scandals and risk failure more

14:16

employees more expensive Revenue going

14:17

down losses leading to withdrawals at

14:20

the same time as all of this you're

14:23

having to refinance uh debt that you

14:25

have whoopsies uh at a higher interest

14:28

rate and the issue again with

14:31

refinancing at a higher interest rate is

14:34

you end up having higher interest

14:36

expenses so I appear to have lost my

14:39

page oh here we go so now you have

14:41

higher interest expenses which again

14:44

leads to more money that's going out of

14:48

this company's uh pocket right so more

14:51

interest expense so really so far what

14:56

we have is a company again that is

14:58

failing to manage its business

15:00

appropriately and you could actually see

15:03

that a little bit by looking at their

15:06

cash flow statement and how much actual

15:09

cash they have so here's how much cash

15:11

that they have if you do the math here

15:14

and you add up their short-term assets

15:16

they've got about 353 million dollars in

15:18

short-term assets you subtract

15:19

short-term liabilities of about 90

15:21

million dollars you get to only about

15:23

263 million dollars of cash that this

15:26

company has

15:27

263 million dollars of cash when you

15:30

jump on over to the cash flow statement

15:33

you kind of start seeing uh oh we are

15:37

losing 1.8 billion dollars a quarter

15:40

right now because we suck at operating

15:43

our company and that includes interest

15:46

expense right so we're spending 1.8

15:48

billion dollars in expenses but we only

15:51

have just under 300 million dollars

15:53

available and on top of that when we

15:56

consider our operating investing and

15:58

financing activities we actually just

16:01

eradicated about 5.3 billion dollars of

16:04

cash available we are out of money at

16:07

this bank so not only are we sucking but

16:11

we're straight up out of cash at this

16:14

bank now I don't profess to know

16:16

absolutely everything about this bank

16:17

but just by actually looking at the

16:19

financials rather than just relying on

16:21

people ranting on Twitter about how

16:23

things look like 2008 and clearly this

16:26

is a sign that the end of the world is

16:27

coming and this collapse spells the

16:29

beginning of a great financial crisis

16:31

2.0 rather than just believe that

16:34

headline nonsense which you know there's

16:36

headline and there's detail I'm a detail

16:38

person okay if you're a headline person

16:40

sorry you're probably going to have some

16:42

crazy emotions but you know I think by

16:44

now we should learn that headlines are

16:46

Sensational details are what matters

16:48

when we actually look at this company we

16:49

go wait a minute it's no surprise that

16:52

the company is potentially going to lay

16:54

off 5 000 workers I did some quick math

16:56

and I think that in order for them to

16:58

just go back to break even they actually

17:00

need to cut more jobs they need to cut

17:01

maybe between 7 500 to 10 000 jobs that

17:05

would be about uh 10 well maybe about 15

17:07

to 20 percent of their Workforce of

17:09

about fifty thousand fifty one thousand

17:11

individuals world why so this fear that

17:14

this is the Titanic you know and just

17:16

the beginning of a fleet of crashes I

17:17

think is a little overblown I could see

17:20

though why people are freaking out

17:21

because they're looking at a bank that

17:23

just straight up sucks and it it sends

17:26

these signals that maybe there's a

17:27

larger underlying issue in our economy

17:30

but to me again this is this is all uh

17:34

being created or being exposed like the

17:37

bad management of this bank is being

17:39

exposed because the Federal Reserve is

17:41

hiking rates extremely aggressively

17:43

which is making their interest more

17:45

expensive and is devaluing the bonds of

17:47

their customers their customers are

17:49

leaving and losing money the company has

17:50

too many employees and it all points

17:52

back to the fed the Glory Days Are Over

17:55

as the FED basically is telling us the

17:57

fed's saying look The Glory Days Are

17:59

Over stop spending money tighten your

18:00

belt and if you're Bad Company the

18:02

Market's just going to eat you up the

18:04

market is going to make you go bankrupt

18:05

unfortunately this company has seen

18:07

their market capitalization fall uh

18:10

somewhere around 70 percent they're

18:11

starting talk has just plummeted over

18:13

the last year and when you look at their

18:16

market cap they've got about a 10

18:17

billion dollar market cap they're trying

18:19

to raise eight billion dollars the only

18:21

way they can really do that is selling

18:23

off assets so now they're thinking about

18:25

selling off like their trading unit and

18:26

their Brazil unit which are massive

18:28

money losing units anyway and then if

18:31

they do end up selling those off they're

18:33

still going to have to potentially raise

18:34

four billion dollars from markets but if

18:37

you remember uh you know when when you

18:39

like right now today we we are in a

18:42

relative what I would say liquidity

18:44

crunch or crisis globally where there's

18:47

not a lot of cash to support uh these

18:51

sort of Bank financing or company

18:52

financing activities where the company

18:54

goes hey we're just going to Issue four

18:56

billion dollars of uh New Stock and so

18:59

what ends up happening is much like ape

19:02

ape you end up saying hey we're gonna

19:05

dilute shareholders a lot well then what

19:07

happened so uh to the stock well the

19:10

stock ends up losing 60 percent of its

19:11

value you in six months or actually less

19:13

than six months in like two months just

19:15

like ape did which is what I warned the

19:18

reason I warned that stock the talk

19:20

stock ticker symbol ape would likely

19:22

Fall substantially is because when

19:24

companies tried to dilute their

19:26

shareholders in a liquidity crisis where

19:30

people are like we don't have enough

19:31

cash right we're getting gobbled up in

19:33

the market everybody's wealth is going

19:34

down we don't have money to keep

19:35

supporting the liquidity needs of this

19:37

company then what happens is you end up

19:39

getting selling pressure that is

19:42

actually more impactful than it should

19:44

be because there just aren't enough

19:46

buyers available at discounted prices

19:48

and that's unfortunately going to lead

19:51

CS stock which is Credit Suisse to to

19:54

likely uh continue its plummet now

19:56

ironically even though it's down uh 59

19:59

in the past year and 75 in the past five

20:01

years it's actually green today it's

20:04

green today at 1.78 potentially because

20:07

people think okay or are realizing hey

20:10

like this is not the sign of and then

20:13

the market is rising slightly too with

20:14

the exception of obviously of Tesla

20:16

um you know maybe maybe this is not the

20:18

sign of a systemic Global crisis but

20:21

this is actually just a sign of a poorly

20:23

managed bank and and if they can cut

20:25

their Workforce the way the CEO is

20:27

suggesting maybe they'll be able to get

20:28

through this so these are my thoughts on

20:31

the Credit Suisse coming disaster

20:32

hopefully this Insight helps you and if

20:35

you found it useful consider sharing in

20:37

my opinion what I believe to be the

20:38

truth uh and a subscribe for more thanks

20:41

so much bye

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