The Coming Collapse of Credit Suisse | Great Recession 2.0
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September 15 2008 is the day Lehman
Brothers went bankrupt it was not deemed
too big to fail and instead it failed
and contributed to the implosion of
financial markets that deepened the
recession of 2008 and ended up leading
to the great financial crisis as the
mortgage Market melted down today
comparisons are being made that a
company called Credit Suisse or Credit
Suisse or Swiss bank so depending on how
you want to call them
is potentially at a Lehman Brothers
moment that this Bank potentially with
many more assets under management than
Lehman Brothers at the time in 2008
could potentially go bankrupt and if it
goes bankrupt it could be even more
impactful than the bankruptcy of Lehman
Brothers so if you remember people
leaving their offices with boxes because
their company went bankrupt in Manhattan
that might happen again
so let's go through some of the madness
that people are expecting regarding
Credit Suisse and this potential Lehman
Brothers moment this is a bank by the
way that for years if not potentially
decades has been involved in scandals
and potentially misleading their clients
their wealth management clients their
investors about the safety of particular
products they were investing in
especially Bond portfolios which have
absolutely been obliterated in recent
months that's because most spawn
portfolios are down 40 and some Bond
portfolios are down 50 to 80 percent and
Credit Suisse is really no exception
here the problem is
we have a bunch of compounding issues at
Credit Suisse that could actually lead
to not only the substantial reduction
and valuation of the company and share
price but the potential ultimate
bankruptcy a lot of it's is being
compared to the scandals that Deutsche
Bank went through in 2016 especially
since just last year Credit Suisse took
one of the largest losses from the
implosion of arcago's Capital Management
when Bill Huang basically 20x leveraged
his hedge funds portfolio and ended up
losing all of it potentially leveraging
up to 160 billion dollars and Credit
Suisse taking some of the largest losses
from that disaster so what do we know
about Credit Suisse and how is Credit
Suisse different from Lehman Brothers
well that is what we're going to start
with then we'll move into what's
potentially happening within the
internal structure of Credit Suisse and
what could come out of that and why is
all of this becoming a problem now in
the first place we'll go through
everything
first let's compare Credit Suisse to
Lehman Brothers one thing that's
important to remember is that Lehman red
this is probably the most important
aspect is Lehman Brothers had over 600
billion dollars worth of credit default
swaps and even though that sounds really
fancy the way I want you to think about
that is if you have one dollar of real
estate think about a credit default swap
as representing about ten dollars of
real estate so if your one dollar
doubles you double ten dollars instead
of having an extra one dollar you would
actually have an extra
ten dollars that's the power of Leverage
via a credit default swap which is a
derivative think about it kind of like
trading weekly call options okay for
those of you option Traders or think
about it like going to the roulette
table and picking a number
all right so that's a credit default
stop it works great when you're winning
and you're hitting the right number it
works really poorly when things are
collapsing and that's what happened with
the great financial crisis is the real
estate market the underlying
fundamentals of the real estate market
collapsed that's because people had been
buying homes with no income no job no
assets known as in ninja loans people
were coaxed into short-term variable
rate loans that started with interest
rates at negative percent rates or
potentially zero percent taser rates
that adjusted within six months to
Market rates which were like five or six
percent uh and and many people couldn't
afford their payments they couldn't
refinance their homes as they were
promised so they let homes go into
foreclosure which led to the collapse in
valuations of real estate products and
real estate portfolios and when Real
Estate came down 40 percent all of a
sudden that one dollar which was
actually ten dollars became more like uh
oh a six dollar loss because of that
leverage aspect potentially an infinite
loss of uh or a complete loss I should
say rather than an infinite loss a
complete loss of those credit default
swap contracts is the entire real estate
market melted down and what you ended up
with is companies like Lehman Brothers
going completely bankrupt and massive
losses at other companies like Goldman
Sachs or AIG as well some of which of
course were bailed out unlike Lehman
Brothers but how is today different from
this Lehman Brothers moment well on one
hand it's very different in that the
crisis we're seeing right now is not one
based on real estate valuations
plummeting even though the real estate
market is starting to turn down we're
not seeing the insane leverage in the
Banking and Financial system anymore
when it comes to credit default swaps
related to real estate however we are
seeing leverage related to bonds and
because the bond market has been getting
decimated we've seen substantial losses
at Banks because of the bond market
certainly nowhere near as Extreme as
what we saw during the great financial
crisis because of real estate credit
default swaps becoming worthless but
still substantial losses and substantial
losses are one of the reasons why the
CEO of Credit Suisse who was actually
just appointed back in July to sort of
manage a takeover for credits resource
sort of restructuring we should say this
CEO recently came out and said that the
bank is at a critical moment and the
financial times has put together
multiple pieces about how the
culmination of all the failures of
Credit Suisse to manage risk over the
past few years so this new CEO suggests
that he is going to announce a
turnaround strategy for the bank at the
end of October that turnaround strategy
is widely expected to lead to thousands
of job cuts and expense cuts and so what
I actually decided to do is go through
the investor relations report for Credit
Suisse to try to understand is this just
a poorly run Bank are there problems in
the way the company is operating and is
that potentially why we're seeing really
scary charts that are circulating on
Reddit and circulating on Twitter saying
and suggesting that uh oh this company's
going bankrupt because look the cost of
ensuring yourself or your bond portfolio
against the default of Credit Suisse has
skyrocketed you can see the line on the
right is almost similar to the peak as
what we saw in 2008 so in other words
the cost to insure yourself or protect
yourself on the right is about the same
as the cost to protect yourself in 2008
which is sending the signal that oh no
it's getting so inexpensive to ensure
ourselves against loss because of Credit
Suisse there must be some serious
fundamental issues at the company and
here's just sort of another image of
that that's circulating around on Reddit
and so a lot of folks are saying that's
it that's it this is Lehman Brothers all
over again see the cost to insure
yourself is so high like in 2008 that's
it the financial crisis is here and my
goal is to try to understand is there
something in the investor relations
report that actually shows me okay no
this is just a bank that sucks versus a
bank that's about to be just sort of the
tip of the iceberg for a financial
crisis and a financial meltdown and so
that's exactly what we're going to do
let's take a look at their financials so
the first thing that I noticed that's
most important and I went through this
with course members in detail this
morning we went through all of these
Pages uh and and did some digging so
this is sort of a quicker or synopsis a
version of this and one of the things
that we noticed is that in their wealth
management division they had net
revenues that had declined 34 we have a
34 decline in year-over-year revenues
which is fine because a lot of companies
have actually had these sort of 34
percent declines that's because the
markets have gone down less people are
trading so the amount of Revenue that
you can make through managing other
people's money or investment banking
services is obviously declining this is
the management Division division which
has their revenue down 34 but what blows
my mind and sends me a signal that maybe
the problems at this Bank are really
just one of poor management is the
following take a look at this section
right here it's called the general and
administrative expense section it
usually has to do with things like
litigation and payroll expenses salaries
and the company actually in the report
cites exactly these issues some
litigation expenses but also
substantially higher salaries in order
to retain talent and so what's
remarkable is while their net revenues
declined 34 percent under wealth
management they actually bloated their
General and administration expenses by
43 and their other compensation
increased by nine percent so you would
think think that when all of a sudden
your revenues are going down 34 that you
would see a decline in compensation for
your Bankers uh or or the salaries that
people earning or the just the head
count that you have at the company but
no the company actually became so
bloated that their entire wealth
management division this is their wealth
management page their entire wealth
management division actually lost
roughly 100 billion dollars or 96
billion francs it's almost a one to one
so if you hear me say dollars or swish
Swiss Francs they're roughly the same
they're about one to one but that's not
even that bad what's actually worse is
that if you jump over here to the
Investment Bank side you could see the
same thing happening here a 40 decline
in revenues for the Investment Bank
matched by compensation expenses that
increased uh or sorry General and
administrative expenses that increased
31 and compensation expenses that
increase 10 percent why does that make
sense to where all of a sudden a bank
think that used to be profitable under
the investment banking side well at
least in the first quarter they were
profitable in the second quarter lost
1.1 billion dollars in just one quarter
while they're paying these massive
freaking salaries and their banking or
their Investment Banking revenue is down
40 percent now I think this is where
it's just worth taking a quick little
pause and saying look if there were some
massive issues in terms of like credit
default swaps that all of a sudden are
becoming worthless uh which I mean don't
get me wrong like bonds are kind of
losing a lot of value right then then we
would expect to see massive write Downs
on the balance sheet of this company for
assets losing a lot of value but what
actually seems to be happening here is
their clients their customers are losing
a lot of money and therefore their
revenues are declining in wealth
management and Investment Banking while
at the same time they're spending more
money on people so so far what I'm
seeing in this report is is actually not
something that makes me think that oh
this is a company that's losing a lot of
money to bad Investments it's actually a
company that just sucks at being a
business remember one of the biggest
things that I say because obviously you
know that I'm starting this company
house hack this startup one of the
things that I say leads companies and
businesses to bankruptcy is too much
staff too much payroll and how are you
losing 30 to 40 percent in Revenue but
growing your your staff and bloating
your staff that that seems illogical
right and you could see here sort of one
of their disclaimer primarily due to
head count growth Investments is one of
the reasons they're seeing this
substantial uh sort of move in in
expenses but on top of that they're
seeing their clients or in my opinion
we're seeing their clients uh getting
pissed off and so you actually see about
two billion dollars in outflows of
customer deposits so you're seeing
people leave the bank now I wouldn't go
as far as calling this like a run on the
bank I would just say that people are
pissed off probably because Credit
Suisse is losing them money and at the
same time they're having to refinance
their debt at a higher in interest rate
and you can see that here because
they're paying off old debt and
refinancing new which rates are
obviously higher so let's just briefly
try to reconcile some of what's going on
so you have losses at the company
because of bad risk management right so
they're not only did you lose money on
archangos but you lost money through
other scandals and litigation so you
have expensive scandals and litigation
so we can you know maybe what we'll do
is we'll even write these down just so
we can look at this nice and cleanly
together here so we have scandals and
risk failures right that would be like
archangos that's that's the first thing
and that's very expensive then they have
more employees right that's more expense
uh and at the same time revenue is going
down this isn't assigned to me of like a
systemic crisis so far on the financial
system it's a sign that this Bank sucks
right uh now there are losses uh are
leading to
withdrawals right that also makes sense
like if you're if you're using them for
Investment Management Services and
banking services but then they lose you
a lot of money because they parked you
into bonds that they thought were safe
like uh UK guilts and then all of a
sudden they lose 50 in value well
you might be a little pissed so you're
seeing scandals and risk failure more
employees more expensive Revenue going
down losses leading to withdrawals at
the same time as all of this you're
having to refinance uh debt that you
have whoopsies uh at a higher interest
rate and the issue again with
refinancing at a higher interest rate is
you end up having higher interest
expenses so I appear to have lost my
page oh here we go so now you have
higher interest expenses which again
leads to more money that's going out of
this company's uh pocket right so more
interest expense so really so far what
we have is a company again that is
failing to manage its business
appropriately and you could actually see
that a little bit by looking at their
cash flow statement and how much actual
cash they have so here's how much cash
that they have if you do the math here
and you add up their short-term assets
they've got about 353 million dollars in
short-term assets you subtract
short-term liabilities of about 90
million dollars you get to only about
263 million dollars of cash that this
company has
263 million dollars of cash when you
jump on over to the cash flow statement
you kind of start seeing uh oh we are
losing 1.8 billion dollars a quarter
right now because we suck at operating
our company and that includes interest
expense right so we're spending 1.8
billion dollars in expenses but we only
have just under 300 million dollars
available and on top of that when we
consider our operating investing and
financing activities we actually just
eradicated about 5.3 billion dollars of
cash available we are out of money at
this bank so not only are we sucking but
we're straight up out of cash at this
bank now I don't profess to know
absolutely everything about this bank
but just by actually looking at the
financials rather than just relying on
people ranting on Twitter about how
things look like 2008 and clearly this
is a sign that the end of the world is
coming and this collapse spells the
beginning of a great financial crisis
2.0 rather than just believe that
headline nonsense which you know there's
headline and there's detail I'm a detail
person okay if you're a headline person
sorry you're probably going to have some
crazy emotions but you know I think by
now we should learn that headlines are
Sensational details are what matters
when we actually look at this company we
go wait a minute it's no surprise that
the company is potentially going to lay
off 5 000 workers I did some quick math
and I think that in order for them to
just go back to break even they actually
need to cut more jobs they need to cut
maybe between 7 500 to 10 000 jobs that
would be about uh 10 well maybe about 15
to 20 percent of their Workforce of
about fifty thousand fifty one thousand
individuals world why so this fear that
this is the Titanic you know and just
the beginning of a fleet of crashes I
think is a little overblown I could see
though why people are freaking out
because they're looking at a bank that
just straight up sucks and it it sends
these signals that maybe there's a
larger underlying issue in our economy
but to me again this is this is all uh
being created or being exposed like the
bad management of this bank is being
exposed because the Federal Reserve is
hiking rates extremely aggressively
which is making their interest more
expensive and is devaluing the bonds of
their customers their customers are
leaving and losing money the company has
too many employees and it all points
back to the fed the Glory Days Are Over
as the FED basically is telling us the
fed's saying look The Glory Days Are
Over stop spending money tighten your
belt and if you're Bad Company the
Market's just going to eat you up the
market is going to make you go bankrupt
unfortunately this company has seen
their market capitalization fall uh
somewhere around 70 percent they're
starting talk has just plummeted over
the last year and when you look at their
market cap they've got about a 10
billion dollar market cap they're trying
to raise eight billion dollars the only
way they can really do that is selling
off assets so now they're thinking about
selling off like their trading unit and
their Brazil unit which are massive
money losing units anyway and then if
they do end up selling those off they're
still going to have to potentially raise
four billion dollars from markets but if
you remember uh you know when when you
like right now today we we are in a
relative what I would say liquidity
crunch or crisis globally where there's
not a lot of cash to support uh these
sort of Bank financing or company
financing activities where the company
goes hey we're just going to Issue four
billion dollars of uh New Stock and so
what ends up happening is much like ape
ape you end up saying hey we're gonna
dilute shareholders a lot well then what
happened so uh to the stock well the
stock ends up losing 60 percent of its
value you in six months or actually less
than six months in like two months just
like ape did which is what I warned the
reason I warned that stock the talk
stock ticker symbol ape would likely
Fall substantially is because when
companies tried to dilute their
shareholders in a liquidity crisis where
people are like we don't have enough
cash right we're getting gobbled up in
the market everybody's wealth is going
down we don't have money to keep
supporting the liquidity needs of this
company then what happens is you end up
getting selling pressure that is
actually more impactful than it should
be because there just aren't enough
buyers available at discounted prices
and that's unfortunately going to lead
CS stock which is Credit Suisse to to
likely uh continue its plummet now
ironically even though it's down uh 59
in the past year and 75 in the past five
years it's actually green today it's
green today at 1.78 potentially because
people think okay or are realizing hey
like this is not the sign of and then
the market is rising slightly too with
the exception of obviously of Tesla
um you know maybe maybe this is not the
sign of a systemic Global crisis but
this is actually just a sign of a poorly
managed bank and and if they can cut
their Workforce the way the CEO is
suggesting maybe they'll be able to get
through this so these are my thoughts on
the Credit Suisse coming disaster
hopefully this Insight helps you and if
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my opinion what I believe to be the
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so much bye
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