Did Jimmy Kimmel LIE about Charlie Kirk | Trump.
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Well, I haven't seen controversy like
this in a while. The Kimmel clip has
people on both sides freaking out,
arguing that this is not what Kimmel
meant. Other people saying that Kimmel
knew what he was doing and he's
blatantly lying on national television
to destroy
Americans right to the truth. And
therefore, Kimmel deserves to be panned
and sued and thrown into jail. Some
people say other people say Kim sucked
anyway. Get him off the air. But what we
really have to start with is what does
this mean for free speech? And what are
people who are actually the some of the
biggest cheerleaders of the right saying
about this? And from you know a
financial markets and political and more
dare I say reasoned perspective. I'm not
talking about like the trolls and
comments. I'm talking about uh things
like the editorial board of the Wall
Street Journal who tends to take very,
in my opinion, reasoned positions on
many different issues. That's just one
example. And so we're going to go
through a few different sources here,
but I think what the editorial board
says is very interesting. They make the
argument that the left has consistently
been the party of suppressing free
speech. that they've done it in the
past, that uh they'll do it again in the
future. And uh the very left
censorship is what helped the right win
power. that the censorship of the left
in Disney firing an actress in the
Mandalorian who expressed politically
incorrect views, NBC pushing out Megan
Kelly for comments deemed insensitive,
or the Biden administration censoring
contrarian views on CO. These censorship
campaigns or cancel campaigns were wrong
and they helped actually lead to the
rise of this MAGA movement of no, we
stand for free speech. It actually
helped propel the rise of Elon Musk
buying X the what Elon Musk calls the
platform of truth. But you know whether
it's the platform of truth or opinion is
to be argued but it is the platform of
free speech. See, when I ran for
governor in 2021, my campaign
announcement was censored by Facebook.
It was taken down by Instagram,
therefore Meta, because they were
donating to Gavin Newsome in California.
That's my assumption. We just know it
was taken down. Oh, wow. That's the one
thing you censor from Kevin. You don't
censor anything else, I say. But that's
what you take down my announcement post
that I'm running for. about right. But
the censorship that has so long been a
characteristic of, you know, leftleaning
corporations or just the left in general
has been decrieded by people on the
right and has led to this revitalization
of a demand for free speech. Free speech
is so important. You've got Obama
bringing out this, I think, beautiful
piece. I've read it before in the past
and I'm only going to read this little
portion to you here, but it's a
Frederick Douglas piece and this these
lines right here are so powerful in my
opinion. There can be no right of speech
were man. However lifted up, in other
words, however broke, however rich,
however strong, however weak, there can
be no right of speech where any man,
however young, however old, however
lifted up, however humble, is overroaded
by force compelled to suppress his
honest sentiments.
This is very powerful. You can't have
the right to free speech if you're being
compelled by some way or another not to
share your sentiment or your speech
because you're afraid of getting your
broadcast license revoked, for example.
Equally clear is the right to hear. To
suppress free speech is a double wrong.
It violates the rights of the hearer as
well as the speaker. It is just as
criminal as to rob a man of the right to
speak and hear as it would be to rob him
of money. Fantastic. The free speech is
the first amendment to the constitution
for a reason. It is so critically
important. And this is why I look at the
right leaning editorial board of the
Wall Street Journal who says, "Hey, wait
a second here. what's happening by core
and the threat of the Federal
Communication Commission's chair, a
administration official
to basically force the removal of Kimmel
from air. We'll go through the clips in
just a moment. Is the very censorship
that the left was proposing and it will
just be a matter of time. Uh, let me see
here. Yeah, this is insane. It will just
be a matter of time before, let me see.
I'm going to find the exact quotes here,
but it'll just be a matter of time
basically before
you'll end up with the very same thing
happening
to Republicans again when Democrats take
over power at some point in the future.
Because at some point in the future,
Democrats will be in power again. And
that's the argument that they're making
that you have to be really careful with
this because look at this.
So take a look here. Maybe now our
progressive friends understand why these
columns oppose government control of
business. Government should not control
business. Regulatory power in the hands
of a windful president or willful
president can too easily become a weapon
against political opponents including
the media. That's what happened
Wednesday when Brandon Claw said, "We
can do this the easy way or the hard
way." Just like a Jersey mob boss. The
FCC has the power over broadcast
licenses. Nextar Media, which is an
owner of a massive distribution of ABC
network distribution channels and in
current negotiations to let me see if I
have it here. Where is it? in current
negotiations on an over $6 billion deal.
There it is. Next are a suburban
Dallas-based broadcaster that owns and
operates more than 200 local television
stations needs SEC sign off on a $6.2
billion deal quickly washes their hands
of Jimmy Kimmel when Jimmy Kimmel says
something that people don't like. That
is bad. When Mr. car is probably the
catalyst for this happening. So, think
about the order of this. Okay, Kimmel
says something stupid. We'll go through
the clip in just a moment and we'll
break down an analysis on it because
there's a lot to analyze in it and a lot
of people don't think there's anything
to analyze in it, but there's actually a
lot to it and we'll use logic and facts
to go through it and break it down to
deconstruct it.
Well, what happens is Kimmel says
something stupid. Then you get Brandon
Carr at the FCC who basically says,
"Hey, we could do this the easy way or
the hard way. You know, maybe you
shouldn't be distributing Kimmel." And
Nexar's like, "Oh my gosh, our $6
billion deal hangs in the balance here.
This is just about Kimble." Mind you,
Bloomberg reports that Kimble loses
money for Disney, which a lot of people
on the right are like, "Hell yeah, the
good get rid of that clown who loses
money for the business. The guy who
sucks, whatever." Right? Those those are
all opinions. But the fact is Kimmel
said made a stupid statement that led to
a threat from the FCC that was heard
loud and clear and boom, he was gone.
The editorial board says as a private
company, Disney has the right to run
shows as it wishes. But anybody who
thinks this is a free market at work is
ignoring the ways the government can
punish companies. This is not a free
market. This is Trump's market and that
that's dangerous because it is a
violation of our first amendment rights
to free speech. Disney executives. Now,
I know this is where people are going to
go, "But he said something false." Hold
your horses. We're going to get to
breaking that down. Disney executives
had to look out for the best interest of
their shareholders on the day Kimmel was
fired. That's exactly what I said. I
said, "Bob Iger is taking over from Bob
Chapek, cleaning up the mess over at
Disney." And Bob Iger doesn't have the
time to deal with this bullcr. He will
fire him so fast if it means protecting
the Disney share price. That's why Bob
Iger is back. He's a businessman.
And businessmen realize you can't win in
politics. This is why Elon Musk had to
back off. This is why he's no longer
bagging on Trump being in the Epstein
files every single day because you're
going to lose against the political
machine.
Trump has used regulatory leverage
against Paramount and CBS in a weak
lawsuit. And he squeezed liberal law
firms to do liberal or to do pro bono
work for him while the Justice
Department is investigating prosecutors
who brought cases against Trump. Mr.
Carr might have ignored Trump in the
first term, but he doesn't need orders
in the second. He knows exactly what to
do to make Trump happy now. And this is
this is very true. I mean, this is what
the Trump administration is doing. It's
directing the Justice Department against
the people who were against him, which
is exactly what Trump said he wouldn't
do. Yes, the other side did it. Trump
said he wouldn't do it. He's doing it.
Let's be real. And he's leveraging his
power over these companies to sue them.
probably why he's also suing the New
York Times with a $15 billion lawsuit
because it does chill the media. It
chills especially the left-leaning
media. NPR, PBS losing funding. That's a
chilling of frankly left-leaning media.
Uh suing CBS, ABC in lawsuits that have
been settled with with um Donald Trump,
paying Donald Trump 15 and $16 million.
Now the Kimmel firing, the New York
Times lawsuit. This is Trump's
methodology here. This is project 2012
20 25 at work. And so the editorial
board of the Wall Street Journal, which
is usually a guardian of the right,
actually says that you should be careful
because the public is not outraged
enough at Carr's abuse of power. None of
this justifies what just happened. This
was censorship. And the victims of
cancel culture for so long,
conservatives more than anyone should
oppose it because they will be the
targets again when the left returns to
power.
This is because the FCC regulates
licensing. In other words, I actually
think the top comment here in the
comments was pretty good. Says, "I'm a
member of the public in Texas. I am
every bit as outraged about Mr. cars FCC
abuse of federal power because cancel
culture is cancel culture and no matter
who engages in it. Powerful statements
and so free speech is very important no
matter what side you're on. Now I
understand there are a lot of people who
say but what Kimble said was false.
We're going to talk about that in just a
moment. We're going to go through
exactly that. Just to give you some more
context, ABC last year paid $15 million
to settle a defamation lawsuit brought
by Trump against George Stephanopoulos.
Paramount agreed to pay $16 million to
settle a lawsuit with Trump over the
editing of a 60 minutes interview. These
aren't cases that went in front of a
jury and you know a full trial by our
peers. They're cases where companies
said you know what business decision
write off this expense and let's get our
billion dollar deals done. This is
business, but it's being directed by
crony capitalism, and that's dangerous
to our First Amendment rights. It's
dangerous to our Constitution. We're not
saying there aren't wrongs that are
being committed. We're not saying Jimmy
Kimmel isn't an idiot. That's not what
we're saying. We're not saying he didn't
make it oopsy dupsy. We're saying the
FCC
going to threaten regulatory
uh uh uh action for not getting rid of
Kimmel is a dangerous precedent. The
Financial Times even reporting this.
Disney's capitulation over Jimmy Kimmel
sparks fears for US media under Donald
Trump. This is a very very serious issue
right now for Disney. We can do this the
easy way or the hard way. Carr said the
threat was plain. the FCC could take
regulatory action. Probably would. This,
by the way, was all followed by people
saying that Jimmy Kimmel lied. And this
is the crux of the issue. Did Jimmy
Kimmel lie? That's what we're going to
break down. Take a look at this. Piers
Morgan. Jimmy Kimmel lied about Charlie
Cook's assassin being MAGA. Now,
something that you have to know about
Piers Morgan is he's like the old school
version of a jaw basically say shocking,
you know, algorithm sensitive things
that get people riled up because what
happens is when you say when you make
statements, this is why algorithms and
social media are so dangerous today.
This is why I refuse to be a part of
this. Yes, I'm on social media, but I
refuse to be a part of the shock of of
like the extreme left stuff or extreme
right stuff. I am somebody who will
always stand for giving you what I
believe is factual neutral information.
And if I piss everybody off, great,
because it means I will always stand for
what I believe is substantiated by
facts. And I'm not going to shill to one
side ever. Don't care if I piss
everybody off. I'm going to stand for
what I believe is the truth. And I'm
going to give you the facts that back up
the truth. And if those facts prove to
be wrong, then we have the right to
change our mind because when the facts
change, we change our mind. So the
question here is here's Morgan, somebody
who's really good at manipulating the
algorithm by by, you know, echoing
outrage, uh, who's also been on the
Celebrity Apprentice, mind you, under
Donald Trump. Chiml lied about Charlie
Kirk's assassin being MAGA. This caused
understandable outrage all over America.
Prompted TV station owners to say they
wouldn't air him and now he's being
suspended by his employees. Why is he
being heralded as some kind of free
speech martyr? Okay, so first of all, we
have to deconstruct this and then the
Kimmel clip.
Everything that Piers Morgan says that
is right here in blue follows the
yellow. So people are outraged. Kimmel's
getting cancelled. Why is being martyed
for free speech? All of that follows the
statement that quote, "Jimmy Kimmel lied
about Charlie Cook's assassin, Kirk's
assassin being MAGA."
Okay. Is this true? Did Jimmy Kimmel lie
about Charlie Cook's assassin being
MAGA? Now, many of you watching might
have watched the clip and said, "Oh,
yeah, Jimmy Kimmel totally at least
implied
that Krook's assassin was an
R. First of all, we have to then ask
ourselves, is an implication a lie?"
Then we have to ask ourselves, did Jimmy
Kimmel imply that or did Jimmy Kimmel
imply something else? Okay. So to break
this down, what we're going to do is
we're going to look at the clip and then
we're going to break this down using
logical analysis
and we'll come together and then we'll
decide what do we think about this. So
here's the clip. Let's go ahead and pop
it up on screen. I'm going to play it
once. We'll come back to it. We'll play
it once and then what we'll do is uh
we'll break this down in a in in the way
that somebody who's taking taken like
you know who studied logic and I'm not
talking about oh yeah that sounds
logical somebody who understands what is
a facious argumentation what is an
argument a claim with a fact right what
is the difference between a claim and
evidence right what what what are these
things that's that's what logical
analysis is that's what we're going to
do let's listen to the clip
>> over the weekend with the maggie gang
desperately trying to characterize
>> Hold on. Let the audio was screwed up
there. Let me just do this again because
it's important.
>> We hit some new lows over the weekend
with the MAGA gang desperately trying to
characterize this kid who murdered
Charlie Kirk as anything other than one
of them and doing everything they can to
score political points from it. In
between the fingerpointing, there was uh
grieving. On Friday, the White House
flew the flags at half staff, which got
some criticism, but on a human level,
you can see how hard the president is
taking this.
>> My condolences on the loss of your
friend Charlie Kirk, may I ask, sir,
personally, how are you holding up over
the last day and a half, sir?
>> I think very good. And by the way, right
there you see all the trucks. They've
just started construction of the new
ballroom for the White House, which is
something they've been trying to get, as
you know, for about 150 years. And it's
going to be a beauty. Yes, he's at the
fourth stage of grief. Construction.
Demolition.
Construction.
This is not how an adult grieavves the
murder of someone he called a friend.
This is how a four-year-old mourns a
goldfish. We get some.
>> Okay, this is very insensitive. The
Charlie Kirk shooting should affect
everyone of all political persuasions.
This is bad comedy. This there's no
question about this. To make an argument
that Donald Trump is not heavily
impacted by the Kirk shooting uh is
wrong. Even I as an influencer who sees
myself as in the middle or people that I
know who are on the left are impacted by
this because we all as Americans look
and go here's somebody who is sharing
their first amendment right to free
speech adding and and going out of their
way to provide perspective in the world.
They don't deserve to be shot. So
there's no question that this was
insensitive. There's no question that
you could call Jimmy Kimmel an [ __ ]
for this. There is no question about
that. But did he lie? Well, the crux of
the lie comes down to
the first line, which we're going to
play it again right here of they spent
the weekend arguing that he is anything
other than them. Just listen to that
portion again.
with the MAGA gang desperately trying to
characterize this kid who murdered
Charlie Kirk as anything other than one
of them and doing everything they can
anything other than one of them
desperately trying to do that. Okay, so
let's let's remove the words that don't
matter. Okay. What what mostly matters
like and the amplifications or
qualifications like the word desperately
or whatever that doesn't necessarily
really matter in in the sense that
matters in the term of of the way it's
heard but it doesn't matter from a
logical analysis point of view. So from
a logical analysis point of view what we
know is that he said spent the weekend.
This is time and what's doing. Okay. So
there's an action and a time that really
also doesn't matter. The part that
really matters is right here. Anything
other than one of them.
This is basically where people take away
this this argument that okay, Jimmy
Kimmel is calling
the shooter MAGA because if he's not
MAGA, then this is a double negative and
therefore he's MAGA.
But wait a minute, is that true? Is that
what this means? If I tell you that
somebody spent the weekend
saying an apple is anything other than
an apple,
does it make it an orange? Let me
explain that in a little bit more
detail. So,
opinion number one, arguing he's not
MAGA is the same as calling him MAGA.
The problem is this assumes there are
only two options. If you are not black,
then you are white. If you are not an
apple, then you are an orange. However,
this is a logical fallacy. Just because
you are not black does not make you
white and just because you are not white
does not make you black.
So, understand the logical fallacy that
is known as a false dilemma, which is
also known as an eitheror fallacy. Would
you like a bite of this apple? No. So,
you hate apples? No. Maybe I'm full.
Maybe I have a good taste in my mouth
from candy. Maybe I'm fasting. In other
words, a false dilemma is the argument
that, well, if you are not black, you
are white. No, maybe I'm Mexican. Maybe
I'm Hispanic. Maybe I'm Asian.
Maybe I identify as a Pacific Islander.
You don't want this bite of this apple?
You must hate apples. No. Maybe there's
another reason I don't want the bite of
the apple.
A in logical analysis, a false dilemma
or an eitheror fallacy is one that says
there are only two options.
And if there's anything else, it's
ignored. But that's logically false
because wait a minute, let's go to this.
If you spent the weekend saying you're
anything other than MAGA,
people are getting pissed because they
believe that Kimmel is saying he's MAGA.
But wait a minute,
there are many options here. He could be
MAGA, but he could also be a fascist, an
authoritarian. He could be uh, you know,
insane. He could be mentally ill. He
could be of no political persuasion. Uh,
he could be, you know, all sorts of
different things. He could be any kind
of party. He could be part of the
rainbow party. He could be part of the
trans party. You could call whatever you
want.
But just because
Kimmel says that they desperately spent
the weekend trying to make sure people
knew that he was anything other than
MAGA does not call him MAGA. It just
says he is not MAGA. And then Kimmel
reiterates the reason he said this in
the very next line. The reason is to
score political points. That's the next
line that he makes.
>> To score political points from and in
between the
>> That is not a lie. That's an opinion,
right? So
this is what Kimmel here said is true.
Almost everybody on the Trump side over
the weekend did make a very clear
argument that this is an assault on MAGA
and this is effed up. And part of the
benefit of that, and I hate to say it,
but part of the benefit that comes from
this, is what you end up doing is you
end up using the Kirk assassination as
somewhat of a tool to
get midterm votes. Now, that's very
insensitive, but look at this. So,
opinion number two. So, opinion number
one is he's not MAGA equals calling him
MAGA. No, that's a logical fallacy. It's
a false dilemma. It is factually
incorrect to say that calling someone
not MAGA means they're MAGA. That is
100% factually incorrect. And and we
could say that with 100% confidence.
Opinion number two, Kimmel didn't call
him MAGA. He said the right is working
overtime to make sure that everybody
knows he's not one of them. The shooter
is a madman. He's insane. He's mental.
You could do that. This serves as a
tool. People who don't want people don't
want to vote for madmen. So vote for
MAGA instead. What it really does is it
weaponizes the opportunity to to rally
votes for midterms. It's political
fundraising opportunity. It's a
marketing opportunity. It's a unifying
opportunity. It's an us versus them
opportunity. It's kind of like Ben
Shapiro marketing his college tour. Ben
Shapiro had this viral clip where he's
like, "I will not be shut down. We will
not give up on our college tour. we will
not cancel our college tour because we
will not be silenced. He's like, you
know, I've heard rumors that people
think we're going to cancel our college
tour because of the Charlie Kirk
assassination. We will not be canceling
our college tour. So, what that does is
it weaponizes outrage to market Ben
Shapiro's college tour. Now, that's
insensitive to say that, but it's a
fact. The reality is Ben Shapiro
capitalizing on this outrage markets his
own college tour
right
now. Then people get into sheep theory.
And that's opinion number three. Okay.
Opinion number three is sheep theory.
Well, how did most people feel? Well, a
lot of people on the right felt that
Jimmy Kimmel uh called him MAGA, but
that's an implication. That's a feeling.
That is not something that is
convincible beyond a reasonable doubt.
Now, it might hold in the perspective of
news because it's like, wait a minute,
like are are you make are you making an
implication here? But it's still not
doubt of guilt. An implication is not
equivalent to a lie. And I don't even
know that you can imply or or I I'm not
even convinced that you could say they
spent the weekend saying he's anything
other than MAGA implies he's MAGA. I'm
not even convinced you can go that far.
It just implies cuz like nobody called
him MAGA. Like let's also look at the
fact here for a moment. Nobody ever saw
him as associated with MAGA.
Like that like I don't think anybody
looks at the Kirk assassin as like oh he
was Maga. Like I don't even think
anybody was even like remotely thinking
that. I think what Kimmel here did was
very poorly try to create comedy
and he failed. Now does it rise to the
level of getting censored?
No, it shouldn't. You could choose not
to watch his show, but should he get
cancelled over this? No. And that's
where when we go back to this. Jimmy
Kimmel lied about the assassin being
MAGA. This is factually
wrong.
It is factually wrong. And we could see
it when we break it down with logical
analysis. from a logical
uh statistician style point of view, it
is factually wrong that Jimmy Kimmel
lied about Clark's assassin being mag
because we cannot prove that.
Now, with all of that out of the way,
it's worth knowing that what's the most
scary
>> as you've indicated there are
>> is this. This is what everybody should
be afraid of. This is the most scary,
disgusting
interview. First of all, Benny
eats this up hook, line, and synchron
doesn't challenge this at all,
and provides this avenue, which is fine.
People have the right to listen to it.
For for an administration official to
blatantly threaten our American
businesses, this is disgusting. Let's
listen to some of it. you know, avenues
here for the FCC. So, there are are some
ways in which I need to be a little bit
uh careful because we could be called
ultimately to be a judge on some of
these claims. You hear that? We could be
called to be a judge on some of these
claims. That is a direct threat. You
know, we might have to decide if your
license is going to stay active after
this. The direct threat
>> that come up, but I don't think this is
an isolated incident. I mean, you go
back to Representative Swallwell and he
had a tweet out last week where he was
saying that, you know, emphasizing that
Charlie Kirk's killer was a straight
white male from a Republican family that
voted for Donald Trump. In some
quarters, there's a very concerted
effort to try to lie to the American
people about the nature, as you
indicated, of one of the most
significant uh newsworthy
>> There it is. This right here is where
Carr sets up the argument that this was
a newsworthy event, implying that Jimmy
Kimmel is news, which frankly, if you're
getting your news from Jimmy Kimmel,
that's that's probably a, you know, a
big mistake to begin with. But
Car says there was a lie, but we just
proved that there was not a lie.
public interest acts that we've seen in
a long time and what appears to be an
action appears to be an action by Jimmy
Kimmel to play into that narrative that
this was somehow a MAGA or Republican
motivated person. If that's what
happened here with his conduct, that is
that is really really sick. And I've
been very clear from the moment that I
have become chairman of the FCC.
I want to reinvigorate the public
interest. And what people don't
understand is that the broadcasters, and
you've gotten this right, are entirely
different than people that use other
forms of communication. They have a
license granted by us at the FCC. See
that? He's basically saying here, hey,
the First Amendment doesn't apply to
broadcasters. They have a license and if
we think you're lying, you know, we
could revoke that license. This was a
clear as day shutdown
of American institutions, of American
business, of American speech, and it's
absolutely disgusting. This is the very
form of government corruption people
were worried about when voting for
Trump. A lot of people voted for Trump
but did not want to see project 2025.
There are a lot of people who believed
that Trump would be good for the economy
and maybe he will end up proving to be.
The stock market's doing great. It's at
all time highs, right? There are a lot
of things like Trump's done fantastic on
the border.
But there are a lot of people who love
what Trump is doing whether it's with
Iran or wherever it is. They love what
he's doing. even they'll even say, you
know what, what balls on him to meet
Putin in person, right? There are a lot
of people who support that. But then
they look at this censorship of American
free speech and they say, "This is a bad
precedent. If you don't like Kimmel and
you think he's a dumbass, don't watch
him. But don't take away the right to
watch him by threatening to take
action." Later in this video, Carr ends
up saying, you know, we could do this
the easy way uh or the hard way. Uh I'm
not going to play this whole thing
because you get the propaganda. I will
play that portion though, right here.
>> I mean, look, we can do this the easy
way or the hard way. These companies can
find ways to change conduct and take
action, frankly, uh on Kimmel, or you
know, there's going to be additional
work for the FCC
>> or there's additional work for the FCC
ahead. How clear as day was that? Listen
to how clear as day was that? Frankly,
these companies can find ways to change
conduct.
>> Find ways to change conduct and take
action, frankly, uh, on Kimmel or, you
know, there's going to be additional
work for the FCC.
>> Did you hear that? These companies need
to take action on Kimmel or, you know, I
guess there's going to be more work for
this government institution.
You cannot have a more clear as day
violation of free speech and corrupt
government action than this scumbag
right here. That is not a slight
against, you know, Trump. I'm not
shilling for Democrats. I don't give a
crap what anybody thinks. I'm sharing my
perspective.
This is messed up. It's wrong and it's a
bad president knows about this.
>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes. Congratulations, man.
You have done so much. People love you.
People look up to you.
>> Kevin Praath there, financial analyst
and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great
to get your take.
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