i'm highly concerned
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I'm worried this is just going to sound
Doomer and gloomer again so I really
don't want to make this video I'm really
depressed uh but um it's I I I I don't
feel good right now both uh about the
economy uh which I think is about to go
down the pooper and literally what just
went down the pooper at 4:00 a.m.
yesterday let's just say I got really
sick because I had way too much caffeine
I told myself that I'm going to get into
this routine where I could stay up all
night long and I'll finally have my
sleep schedule fixed because I'll just
go to sleep at the appropriate time but
then end with caffeine poisoning again
and let's just say it it's not
pretty this is the problem with trying
to do a meet Kavin report video in the
morning before your 5:25 a.m. live
stream and then you actually have to put
the news together uh for it uh it's um
that that was challenging let's just say
it didn't work out well and so this
morning I screwed up and uh after being
sick I didn't wake up on time and I feel
terrible about that it's entirely my
fault maybe I can finally figure out how
to get this sleep schedule right over
this weekend but let's just say there's
nothing worse than feeling like you got
uh a a this this collapsed uh sleep
schedule as you're trying to do more uh
at the same time as uh feeling like you
really just want to go out there and go
on a run and work out but you got too
much going
on okay with all that complaining and
pardon the French bitching uh out of the
way let's get into this this economy
that we're in I'm really concerned the
consumer sentiment numbers this morning
are really just sort of like icing on
the concern cake but we started with
weak consumer sentiment data really with
Etsy that's when I really started
panicking a little bit because I saw the
Etsy numbers and I'm like wait a minute
and this is Etsy okay like what do I buy
on Etsy buy you know a RuneScape Dragon
medium Helmet or a RuneScape crossbow or
there's a long sword right here or you
know stuff like this a dragon dagger
okay poison tipped poison tip dragon
dagger kind of like how I felt yesterday
like somebody stabbed me right in the
kidney and just poisoned the snot out of
me but the reality is uh Etsy I think is
a canary in the coal mine and I'm really
concerned about that see
Etsy gave us a really big heads up about
what might end up happening with the
consumer sentiment data this morning and
I hate to say it which obviously we'll
go through that but I hate to say this
but I think people have forgotten that
as much as it's fun that GDP can be
built up by the military-industrial
complexes and military spending Biden
bucks or artificial intelligence
infrastructure spending when those
things go away I'm really concerned that
things are just going to get
substantially worse why well because the
consumer makes up 70% of the economy I
think we've forgotten that we're not
like China where the consumer makes up
less than half of that in terms of their
economy and their econom is in the
Poopers too that's mostly driven by the
fraud of the real estate bubble that
they created but I mean consider this
for a moment in case you haven't seen it
I'll just give you a quick run through
here okay Etsy in their earnings call I
thought all right look there's Stock's
been declining forever maybe just maybe
they'll give us some kind of hope that
the pain is about to be over you know
it's kind of like the solar folks you
had uh what was it sunron or whatever
that told us hey you know we're
confident q1 is the bottom things are
finally going to get better great that's
great that's for people who actually
have money to invest in solar systems
and batteries that cost you you know 50
to 70 grand and you're willing to
finance them at seven and a half to 8%
which is like you may as well just pay
the utility at that point but whatever
so this is etsy's stock and as you could
see it boomed during the pandemic duh
that's obvious but it's literally been
dragging along like the Titanic's anchor
at the bottom of the
ocean quite frankly since the middle of
22 so we're coming up on two years here
of some of the worst price action ever
for Etsy and it just feels like it's
about to get even worse than this like
even worse we might frankly in my
opinion go down another 50% down to
basically the depths of what we had
during Co except after covid everybody
was locked in at home so everybody's
buying crap on etsc that they didn't
need and boom we get this you know
euphoric run in the stock now look we're
going to go beyond Etsy in a moment
don't worry we're going to go beyond
Etsy I promise but look at this for a
moment I'm thinking they'll tell us
something about a bottom right because
everybody keeps talking about hey hey
hey the consumer is so resilient don't
worry the consumer keeps spending okay
that's fine the consumer can continue to
be resilient but you know what I hate is
when every company tells me the consumer
continues to be resilient and then some
of them start going I don't know man
we're starting to see the canary and the
coal mine because that spreads like
cancer to other Industries
rapidly that is what concerns me and so
look at this closely these headwinds are
real and they do not appear to be
abating
consumer wallets remain squeezed duh did
you hear about the bnpl stuff let me
write this in bnpl look at the bnpl
crisis ready for this so there's this
article Bloomberg put together from a
Harris poll on Phantom debt and it
suggested that uh basically 43% of those
who owe money to bnpl were behind on
payments and of those households with
over 00,000 of annual income 42% were
delinquent according to the survey
so one of the problems with bnpl is that
many of these don't show up on consumer
reports like your credit report or
otherwise they're just sort of like
little installment reports like paying
for or whatever but people are now bming
their rent they are groceries the
consumer is really like screwed the
bottom 50% is absolutely whacked I mean
we just had uh I think it was gunlock
and also um uh Barry Stern say the same
thing yeah here's Barry Barry told us
we're starting to see the weakness in
the consumer he shouts out Starbucks
McDonald's warnings on credit cards he
says 50 to 60% of Americans are out of
savings the penny pinching is coming
coming Barry Stern says now of course he
says we're temporarily propped up by
migrants taking jobs that Americans
don't want uh and even though obviously
we have an undocumented immigration
problem it's better that people have
jobs than not have jobs and basically be
on welfare here which I suppose is a
good point but uh he's also got this
really big concern that the US debt is
so large the fed's going to be forced to
cut rates not because inflation is
coming down no inflation could actually
be worse but rather because you're going
to start seeing one to two Regional
Banks fail uh every single week maybe as
much as one per day as these cracks
continue to develop now maybe Barry's
just being a bear maybe he should change
his name to Bear Stern Lake instead of
Barry Stern Lake okay that's that's a
stupid joke but it's it's serious from
the point of view
of we're starting to get a lot of smart
money that's saying hey cracks are
coming Barry Stern says the Cs are
coming consumers are out of money and
we're seeing that at a canary in the
coal mine the it's Lally Etsy in my
opinion is literally the discretionary
of discretionary like I think you kind
of go from like discretionary which is
like I need a 3D printed dragon dagger
with a poison tip that way I could go
look at my cool 3D printed poison dagger
tip from RuneScape uh and then I could
write it off because it obviously muted
into this video just like everything
else in this room C
IRS okay so there's like the
discretionary of discretion then there's
like discretion which is like am I going
to buy my kid a new Lego set and then
there's like the subscription discretion
do I really need Hulu Netflix Disney
plus and a newspaper subscription right
and so this is and then you get into
like the discretion of like do I really
need the Starbucks or am I going to go
buy it at home and am I going to use the
old mugs that I have or am I going to go
to GameStop and buy you know the Pokemon
mugs also right
off
um Etsy is the canary in the coold mine
and I was really expecting them to tell
us that there was some form of optimism
coming see look at what we had in this
meet Kevin uh post that we did in
February okay I want you to see this so
the last time we had earnings because
this will show you a change over time
does anybody ever remember writing five
paragraph essays in school and they
wanted to do like change over time
essays in AP like a push anyway change
over time okay what's the change over
time look at
this uh plenty of cash to cover
short-term obligations sees etc's modest
active buyer growth in the US and strong
for
international and they're expecting
volumes to decline low single digits
year-over-year okay so the growth is
going away fine but now the headwinds or
or like that that you know some pickup
in some of those buyers that's gone now
it's turned into consumer wallets remain
squeezed the headwinds are real consumer
sentiment remains distressed the
international market that was growing
has turned into macro is quite
challenging especially in the UK and
Germany consumers feel pressured they're
seeking value and discounts and China is
providing that our sellers have no
pricing power even regular Spenders are
spending
less yeah I mean you could see all the
screenshots here okay it's it's bad it's
very bad and and so maybe Etsy just
sucks you know maybe maybe that's it
maybe etsy's just trash and it's
over but then we need to also look at
Starbucks which okay maybe they're
getting beat up because of China but
then maybe we should also start thinking
that if we keep making excuses on the
consumer then we might end up getting
blindsided and I don't want to get
blindsided McDonald's for
example let's just put it this way
they're now announcing a $5 meal deal I
feel like they used to have a dollar
menu now it's the $5 meal deal and the
$5 meal deal is a an effort for
McDonald's to quote lure the consumer
back in other words the consumer is gone
comp sales in Q2 so far are quote
roughly
flat this isn't good people were cut
back on the Mickey of the dles and now
they're coming out with discounted
Burgers people back folks we're not
going to have to worry about inflation
anymore we're going to have to worry
about deflation because you're going to
take a simulated consumer you're about
to turn them into a dead horse and
people are going to
go can can you get it up
again
hello I don't know I don't
like maybe maybe I'm just being too
bearish but let me put it this way right
now the greed and fear index is at
neutral I think we're about to go to
extreme fear I don't want to say that I
I don't want that to be true or the case
that's bad but look this is where we are
right now we're at neutral and uh we're
at Greed for Market momentum I think
this is going to go all the way down
over here to extreme fear within the
next three months why do I see that look
we've had the volatile swoosh the Nike
vol swoosh recovery we've had it it's
been great it should keep going could it
keep going could we be wrong here
absolutely inflation could really
impress to the downside and maybe We're
Off to the Races next week consider
inflation the forecast for inflation
right now uh are sitting at uh let's see
here we've got uh CPI month over month
is expected at 4% and oil dropped like
crazy so I'm kind of surprised by that I
I would have thought that oil would have
drugged that down a little bit more so
maybe we'll come in low on that CPI
month over month but the CPI core is
expected to grow by. 3% month over month
next Wednesday and I mean maybe we'll
get like this glorious uh Miss and we'll
get tws across here you know we really
want to be closer to 0.17 to get to
about 2% for the inflation Target for
the FED uh but those are the
expectations right now and quite frankly
you've got Bloomberg this morning saying
after consumer sentiment data things
have quote taken a distinct turn for the
worse yeah that's because the consumer
drives this economy and so when people
wake up and realize oh crap the consumer
drives everything the consumer is the
one who buys the GPT subscription or the
FSD subscription or the AI subscription
for their you know Workforce
subscription at their office so they can
have co-pilot the consumer is the one
that either Buy or uses all of that and
if the consumer loses their job then
their boss buys less seats for Microsoft
co-pilot consumer loses their job they
have to go cancel their GPT subscription
then growth on the lack of software
revenues we're seeing anyway for AI
evaporates the uh AI boom of building
out AI servers is built and then what
happens well you sit around and twiddle
your thumbs as you wait to get through
the nasty times and the market crashes
uh I I
the AI valuations right now are at a
level that assume we are just going to
keep booming forever and some of it is
somewhat
ludicrous maybe we will and and I hope
so because if we boom forever the market
won't go into a recession or the economy
won't go into recession everything will
be just
fine but look at the qes The Q's have
topped out these are the q's right here
let's go to the average candlesticks
it's a little easier to say we can't
seem to get above this line we just got
through earning season earning season
started out good started getting a
little worse when we started getting
into the the you know the midcaps and
the consumer the consumer was really not
fantastic in this earning cycle AI
Microsoft they did pretty good uh at
least decently though you did have some
downsells obviously after earnings
though I will say the earnings overall
were good for this quarter just you're
starting to see that slowing growth uh
in some of the forecasts and so you did
get some sell Downs okay whatever so
topping out on the q's you're also
topping out on BTC we know this we also
just got we're on this channel this is a
pretty obvious downtrend channel right
here we were trying to break out this
morning look at this this morning we
broke out above my 617 line I wouldn't
have known because I was
asleep but anyway we broke out uh around
10:30 uh uh sorry this is 10:30
yesterday my fault we broke out around
10:30 yesterday and start Ed running
throughout the day uh and right here we
got our University of Michigan sentiment
data which we'll touch on in just a
moment and what happened right after we
got that sentiment data within the next
30 minutes we dropped 1.2% then another
nearly 2% uh and here we are now down
about 3.4 in the last 24 hours right
straight through that line not even a a
a lick of a pause at uh that 617 line
now maybe we'll
recover but the point is is the Bitcoin
in my opinion is a leading bad Omen for
the markets it's a great Omen when it's
running it's a bad Omen when it's
trending down and I'm looking for
catalysts that are going to say it's
going to be able to run again in the
near term now I understand a lot of this
is what I call fundamental trading
people like Kevin you're just a Trader
you know what that's right I
fundamentally trade when I
see things that don't make sense in the
economy I get nervous and I say you know
what I'm pack my bags I'm going to hedge
a little I'll spread out my stuff into
multiple different bags and diversify
just in case things get a little loony
out there uh make sure we got our good
old what do you call them the go bag at
multiple different spots in the house
that's uh you know the go bag the one
with your med pin your bandages and your
Glock uh anyway
um you got I don't know man these are
the cues
uh this is sqq let's go to spy where's
the Spy so the S&P 500 basically uh same
thing uh you you you have you're trying
to top you're trying to break
out I think you're you're going to be in
for a world of a rejection here again I
could be wrong but we've had some
Euphoria after Jerome Powell suggested
hey you know we're at Peak rates I think
he suggested we're at Peak rates because
he has to because maybe the inverted
yield curve will actually end up being
right it just ended up taking a little
bit longer we're the most inverted or
we've been inverted for the longest
period of time quite frankly ever but uh
we're at 37 basis points inverted
consumer sentiment this morning didn't
help at all as well as inflation
expectations which almost feel like
they're dis anchoring a little bit or de
anchoring um but I'm I'm not even so
worried about inflation I'm more worried
about what happens when the consumer
collapses and the canaries and the coal
mine start turning into the coal mine
collapsing
look at consumer sentiment first of all
I want you to see this expected change
in unemployment during the next year
we're at the highest level since
2009 briefly had a little bit of fear
there at uh the beginning of 2023 as
some of the big techs were laying off uh
although stocks started Rising again so
you did have a little bit of fear but
why all of a sudden are we getting this
skyrocketing of fear again this time
it's not the first round of layoffs this
time it's the Deep Cuts this time it's
the Javier Malay chainsaw Elon Musk
we're going to expand the supercharger
team we're just going to or number of
superchargers we have don't worry we'll
invest 500 million into superchargers
we're just going to fire everyone at our
company on the supercharger team that
happens to have experience with
permitting land use negotiating leases
negotiating Wind win deals for a
longterm with uh operators of the
facilities we'll just get rid of all of
them and we'll let our competition like
BP or EV go or blink hire all the Tesla
folks that just got fired yeah that's
not something that you do when you think
you you have enough cash to really get
through the year and it's not something
that you do when you think you're going
to grow a portion of your business
dramatically I'm
nervous uh this and and Tesla's just
Tesla's just the
beginning all these
people they're going to be the first to
stop buying on
Etsy I mean I understand they were
probably paid uh you know reasonably
well while they were working at Tesla uh
and their stock has probably performed
oh wait uh so you know I mean I'm sure
from their their earnings they've got
plenty of savings but now you got to
find a new job and you know I just think
of the anecdotes of people and this is
just an anecdote we know plural of
anecdote is not data but I just think
how sad it is you know there was a story
that was circulating on on X or Reddit
or whatever where basically an engineer
got fired in December took him three
months to find a job lands a job with
Tesla in March 72 hours before he's
supposed to get his badge here in
May sorry your position's been
terminated that's scary
how is somebody in a position of that
level of
uncertainty going to buy anything on
Etsy well let me tell you this they're
not how are they going to buy the latest
iPad they're not they're going to buy
the stuff they need I think that's one
of the reasons why Walmart and Amazon
and Costco are doing well right now
because you've got basically this you
know people just have to spend where
they where where they think they can get
the best deal where they can get the
best value and it's sort of like what
Etsy said people are discount driven and
looking for the best
value uh so it's concerning so not only
do we have this expected change in
unemployment so basically fear going up
of people getting fired I mean here's
another one look at this one uh oh I got
to fix that typo here those making 150k
or more worry about it
more uh 72. 48% of those making 150k or
more worry about being fired versus 50 .
26% of those making 50k or less mind you
these are really high numbers you know
job security concerns are rising and
it's not good like job security concerns
going up imply that people are starting
to see some writing on the wall where
they're working and they're going crap
you I mean maybe if you're like a
startup that's well capitalized and you
could write out whatever storm there is
there's there's less concern obviously
but you're at some of these big
companies that are beholden to their
shareholders and uh they got to prove
some EPS growth in a depressing
environment more people are going to get
asked it's scary so uh again I I I you
know I said I I really hope I don't feel
too Doomer and gloomy here but this it
feels like a very bizarre time you know
I want to give you another analogy and
then I we we still have to hit those
expectations but I want to give you this
analogy
and remember an analogy is a comparison
using like or as so I want to compare uh
2024 to 22 11 and 2019 I mostly I'm
using those just to pick something
within the last like 15 years here right
so in 2019 what was the world like oh no
China and the US have a trade
war in 2011 sure you had you know
uprisings in Egypt and that and Steve
Jobs were signed but what was the fear
in 2011 oh no there might be a double
dip recession that'll tank real estate
ended up being the
bottom in 2020 it's like we're all
United against Co we're all from you
know working from home and everybody's
United against
Co and what do you have
today well business feels like it's
slowing down for many people people it's
this is probably the hardest time ever
to be an entrepreneur and grow a
business probably the hardest time ever
could you imagine trying to be a realtor
today A lender today or trying to grow a
business and and get more clients in
this sort of
environment people are going to start
having like blood coming out of their
eyes cuz they're they're staying up so
late going I need to find more
work you know I'm not trying to make a
joke out of that I think that's that's
sad it's
depressing consumer sentiment crash this
morning we're going to touch on that but
I mean think about this cash liquidity
is extremely tight we talked about the
banking charge offs that the entire sort
of industry is just sort of
like all right so where were we that
it's still on my mind debt payments are
rising uh spying the cues are topping
geopolitical crisis just feels gross you
know the Israel Gaza issu is not ending
Russia Ukraine Sudan government data
says everything's fine and GDP is
supposed to be like 4% but I think it's
like delusion
prices are high uh which is still
frustrating people we talked about job
security concerns you got the
immigration fear and the Border crisis
protests going on uh it just it feels
like a lot a lot of negativity and who
knows maybe maybe that's just emotional
but I don't I mean it's not just me you
could see it look at the
data year-over-year sentiment and
conditions are up but month over month
is collapsing the index of consumer
sentiment on a month-over-month basis is
down
12.7% now yes we are up across the board
on the year-over year we are better off
than where we were but what concerns me
is not the comparison to last year it's
the trend now because if this 12% turns
into another negative 12% and another
12% and another
12% we'll be in the depths of sentiment
in the span of well two or 3
months so it is concerning uh and then
of course we saw the inflation
expectations so so so my take right now
uh is twofold first of all hug your
family focus on your health take a walk
start running work out get away from the
insanity of your phone delete you know
Tik Tok and Instagram and X or whatever
and just just get value try to get value
in what you're what you're listening to
uh and and get different perspectives
you know listen to bullish arguments
listen to bearish arguments and and then
make up your own mind you know how's
your s how are you doing
leave me a comment down below how are
you doing how is your your job how is
your wife's job how is your husband's
job how are your kids' jobs if they have
jobs um or if they're old enough to have
jobs I should say because if they're old
enough to have jobs and they don't have
jobs maybe that's actually
AAL uh and and is there really this
belief that we're about to just rocket
ship up to the next level here I I don't
know I how I guess I just don't see the
Catalyst or earnings supposed to beat
this delusional level that we've already
hit I mean I guess what could Skyrocket
markets is uh you get a a big CPI Miss
uh well which would be a beat it's it's
weird how they word it but but basically
instead of getting like 04 and. 3 you
get like 0.1 and 0.1 and then
everybody's like
yay we're going to start making a trend
of inflation disappearing again just
like we did at the end of uh
20203 which could entirely be Poss I
don't know if it'll happen as soon as
the April data but um inflation could
definitely take down rapidly but the
question is is the consumer still going
to be alive at that point I don't know I
don't know so I can't help myself but
feel a little depressed so uh you know
as usual I I send out alerts to some of
my thoughts and trades that I'm making
in the stocks and psych group uh it did
open up
uh a little bit of an out ofthe money
short
probably a bad idea but it's it's not
it's not a big trade I I don't I don't
know I'm just I'm just starting to
create it and I'm starting to think to
myself okay maybe uh maybe I establish a
little bit of a position now and then if
CPI comes in
worse I'll double triple down on uh on
that
short oh I don't know maybe uh maybe I
just need to like take a vacation to a
beach and have a beer and it'll all be
okay I do think it'll all be okay the
question is is your business going to
survive is your job going to survive is
your mortgage going to survive is your
you know like is your business going
those are all really important things
there's a reason my real estate startup
has zero debt there's a reason I am
heavy in cash right now like me
personally it it doesn't really matter
because it's like look if it runs great
if the markets run guess what that's
fantastic for my startups uh everything
everything will be just fine if the
Market's full we'll survive we'll be
fine because we have cash I'll survive
I'll be fine because we have
cash so like either way it's
fine I don't really have this fomo
feeling because again I think well if
the market skyrockets then the startups
will do really well too so it's okay
it's sort of like I've I've got so much
invested in in in different directions
that that it really like either way
it'll be
fine um but uh getting through this this
2024 you know obviously you got the
election cycle but I don't I don't
really look at the election cycle so
much when I think of macro uh but
getting through this next year is going
to be the big one for everyone I think
anyway thanks so much for watching good
luck goodbye why not advertise these
things that you told us here I feel like
nobody else knows about this we'll we'll
try a little advertising and see how it
goes congratulations man you have done
so much people love you people look up
to you Kevin P there financial analyst
and YouTuber meet Kevin always great to
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