DO NOT BUY THIS HOUSE | Noob vs Pro

we got another new Bruce Pro episode for

you from Utah for househack welcome to a

two-in-one from the 20s plus a basement

now you know in my new Bruce Pro Series

we like talking about what the noobs

like to do and what the pros like to do

and many of you have heard me talk about

wedge deals finding a fixed dropper you

could add value to well there are

properties that you want to add value to

and they're properties you don't even

want to touch

you're going to find out what kind of

property this is let's get started here

so most people even the noobs are going

to pull this off they're going to look

at a property like this and say oh it's

probably got hardwood floor underneath

the carpet right and the answer to that

is yes it does it's got your one and a

half inch oak and this is a pretty

typical

1920s style property you'll find them

pretty much throughout the United States

very common and people will refinish

these hardwood floors often you can tell

and the pro will know this versus a new

but a pro will look and see can we see

any nail heads coming through and

sometimes when we see nail heads it's

just a sign that it's been refinished in

the past multiple times and there might

be a limited lifespan left now another

thing that I like to this I don't see

nailheads here so that's good now

another thing that I notice as I kneel

here and you'll have to come around to

see it but I can actually see the tiling

kind of sneaking up towards the tub over

there and then the floor it might be

hard to see on the camera towards the

back also divoting right in the middle

of this the hallway here and coming back

up it's not uncommon for these raised

Foundation Homes to have sagging in

different parts of the property but

these are issues that you're going to

want to inspect underneath a lot of

these homes when they were built were

built on Piers that were really just

stacked together blocks of rock and if

you have a lot of these that have rotted

away or the rocks have started falling

away you're going to be adding a lot of

expense per Pier just to get the

property jacked back into place you

could be looking at 700 1200 bucks per

pier and you start adding 20 Piers

together it starts getting expensive you

go down there and you're like okay we

got two Piers to do over here and it

solves most of the issue maybe that's

not that bad but now this means going

underneath the property some more work

to do here now remember I like looking

for properties as a pro would do rather

than just being a sort of a noob going

okay hello Kevin says buy a fixer-upper

I like looking at the property going

okay well what upgrades do we have well

this is actually an upgrade from 1970.

it's an upgraded aluminum window but

it's trash it's garbage you don't want

that anymore the original windows in

this property would have been these

these are your uh original wood windows

right here it's a single pane window uh

and this is an operable single pane

window although it's mostly been painted

shut I can't even get the darn thing

open anymore look at the alarm sensor is

wired in over here very common for these

to be painted shut the pro also looks at

these and says most of these are painted

with an oil-based paint a lot of people

did not know they went over these with a

latex and it peels right off you're

probably looking at a lot of leaded

Paints in some of the underlying coats

of paint as well hey you want to get a

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first time around let's go and even

though this property has my favorite

Style Idol of kitchen this property

doesn't feel like the property that's

actually had any pride of ownership now

I don't know what could that give that

away but I'll let's just put it this way

the kind of person who's going to find

this kind of living environment

acceptable with the splattered grease

and this nasty and the damage to the

countertop unless it was a hoarder of

some kind but I mean this is quite nasty

too putting up a foil here to catch the

oil as you're cooking rather than just

cleaning it every time and I mean just

look this is this should go to tell you

I mean you've got rat droppings in here

basically this should go to tell you

that this is not somebody who had any

respect for the property at all but it's

not just that because I can clean stuff

like that up we can put in new cabinets

where it becomes problems when you're

looking at when you start looking at the

systems of a property and that's what

the noob forgets the noob says well

every property I go into is going to be

a fixer-upper anyway so I'm going to

have to deal with all the crap anyway

that's not necessarily true when you go

into a quality remodel you're not going

to find these open 1950s junction boxes

that are just old trash wiring sliced

together with knob and two garbage what

you want is ideally you want like a you

know 1990s Grandma who came in here and

redid all the electrical redid the

plumbing did the foundation work did the

water heater the windows the furnace

but she's still got the old 90s kitchen

cabinets and the old flooring and the

dated wallpaper and the old paint this

is disgusting it's probably I'm not

going to use the m word but apparently

some drug use on this one he's still got

an original for well it's probably not

original but you had an ancient furnace

over here you can see the work that was

done relatively basic if not near shoddy

on on some of the water heater work here

no Smitty pan you know the funky

pressure relief PEX pipe over here uh

the piping over or the venting over here

doesn't look terrible but could be

better certainly seen much more

professional installs you're going to

find these properties are also laugh and

plaster what that means is you have lath

and plaster see laugh is this wood this

is Plaster which makes it really hard

for you to hang pictures you find this

mildew and mold uh mostly uh sort of a

window mildew here you're going to find

a lot more of that hold an issue

over here this is all Subterranean this

is in your basement over here so pretty

disgusting over here these are these are

all expensive issues and in an old house

like this there's nothing salvageable

really everywhere you look it's damage

it's a rot everything has to be redone

frankly this is

I mean it's not a tear down but it would

be you would get more out of this a lot

tearing it down almost I know we can fix

it up but this is probably not something

I would do because it would cost me too

much money I would have to do uh the

foundation the roof the plumbing the

drainage around the property the water

heater the windows the furnace and then

I get to the cosmetics and by that point

I've spent a lot of money I mean every

door is broken every baseboard is

damaged The ceiling's Moldy I mean you

could see the water stains over here uh

everywhere you look it's damaged I don't

even have a functional ceiling

throughout most of the property it's

rough even you go into the bedroom and

what do you get in the bedroom yet

another corner with mildew

yet another broken set of doors more

paint that I have to drywall fix because

it hasn't been fixed in forever more

windows that I have to replace and now

I'm in a neighborhood where look at this

I got a neighbor who has the original

window here they replace the back window

but they never trim molded that window

out properly you could see the funky

trim around their window so even if you

remodel yours you're next to somebody

who leaves all this trash out uh and and

does funky remodels themselves older

roof as well no Chimney Cap I mean what

is that that Barn back there I mean well

you're going to come in this

neighborhood and remodel to live next to

this and then don't even get me started

on your own garage and I know this one's

not much better but I'm just saying if

you're gonna come remodel look at your

garage that is literally a tear down the

roof is rotted away uh it's uh this is

just an example where a true Pro will

actually say yes it is a fixer everybody

knows it's a fixer but it's so much of a

fixer that it's actually dangerous it is

a dangerous prop property to consider

because there's so much to do and beyond

that a noob looks and goes oh I can do

this you know I'll slap some paint

around bro no you're not you're not

slapping paint around all the wooded rot

uh rotten frames and all the mold and

trash electrical splices I mean whoever

left the property like this

you know the electrical junction

wherever they put all of our electrical

Junctions in the walls or in the

substructure we're going to be janky and

trash I don't even want to know what's

going on down there and if you think

like in a you know under under this

portion beyond the part that we were

able to access uh I'm talking about

where the actual Junctions are which

usually when they have basements in sort

of the uh the closeted areas I don't

even go into those uh but uh not only

that some people are like oh but you've

got an attic up here right well don't

expect to go into this some of these

older properties you've actually it's

actually surprisingly have got a little

bit more room over here a lot of these

older properties have relatively flat

roofs and there's very limited space

this is actually a benefit so while I

was going to say you have to be careful

on these 1920s homes because a lot of

them were flat roofs and you have

basically this much space so in other

words you want to add can lights you

just have to rip the ceiling down which

is laugh and plaster so a lot harder

than drywall that is actually the only

good thing I've seen so far of this

property is that you have an accessible

attic usually you don't uh on on some of

the older properties like this but

anyway all that said look

this is not something I would touch for

my real estate startup and it really

isn't something anybody should touch

unless they're getting a phenomenal deal

would I touch it at a certain price of

course but the odds are I'm not going to

get it for the price that makes this

make sense somebody else is going to buy

this thinking they're getting a good

deal and then they're going to be one of

those stories where they go in with a 50

000 budget and they come out 150 000

later and upside down on the deal this

is a very risky kind of property and if

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