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Nick T frequently referred to as the

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mouthpiece of the Federal Reserve over

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at the Wall Street Journal just flagged

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something quite dangerous for markets

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and we need to talk about it because

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this is something that I personally have

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not been paying as much attention to as

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I should it is a leading indicator which

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is dangerous and not good because the

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indicator is not going in the direction

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that we want it is a leading indicator

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on data that is usually a lagging

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indicator in other words by the time we

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usually see this lagging indicator show

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bad things or already deep into a

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recession but now we can start seeing

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some leading tells that maybe we're

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heading into a not so great environment

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now I'm going to show in this video what

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Nick T flagged first but I've gone a lot

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deeper on what Nick T flagged and it

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just gets worse the deeper I go so let's

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Analyze This Together so what do we have

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first this is what Nick T flagged on

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Twitter he flagged this segment of the

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zip recruiter Q2 earnings call so this

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is a job placement company and what I

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did is I went to two other job placement

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companies uh the company that owns

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monster and the company that owns indeed

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and I went to those holding companies

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earnings calls to see what they're

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saying about Labor and I'll tell you

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it's all not fantastic you ready for

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this here we go so this is ZipRecruiter

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employers continue to respond to

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enduring macro economic uncertainty with

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caution this enduring not not a great

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phrase right if we're really bottoming

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out in soft Landing whatever then we

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should be seeing a trough in earnings

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and this sort of U shape of earnings

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right and we come out of that that pain

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point but right here we see an enduring

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macro level of uncertainty in addition

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the number of job openings and employers

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willingness to pay for these job

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openings has been declining

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significantly from the peaks of 2020 A1

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in 2022 and this trend is consistent

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amongst both small and Enterprise and

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medium businesses geographies and

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Industry so in other words everywhere

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everything is slowing down in labor now

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this is really interesting because we

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just got a strong labor report and so a

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lot of people are like oh but Kevin we

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just had a strong BLS jobs report the

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problem though is we and we knew this

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going into this crisis jobs reports are

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lagging data everybody and their

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grandmother knows that jobs reports are

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lagging data this is something that I

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flagged way back in December of 2021

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that like hey the way to go into a

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recession is you you have a lot of

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unemployment the problem is you don't

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know that you're going to have a lot of

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unemployment until you're in a recession

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so I was going through this with course

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members this morning along with real

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estate and some fundamental analysis

2:51

that we were doing uh and I I noticed

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there were some software engineers in

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the group who've been saying hey like

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usually I can get a job very quickly all

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all of a sudden I can't get a job very

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quickly anymore and then I think about

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the BLS labor report and I'm like oh my

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gosh the BLS labor report actually told

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us that where people were able to get

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jobs wasn't necessarily in retail

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Hospitality or Tech anymore where people

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were getting jobs was in education and

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health care which is actually usually

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late stage cycle employment also not

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good so in other words you're seeing zip

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recruiter flag issues you're seeing

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people start flagging issues you're

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seeing uh individuals on teamblind.com

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start indicating that there are Amazon

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silent layoffs and other companies like

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Microsoft but and Dell potentially

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cutting over a thousand employees how

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more of these layoff rounds are coming

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now but they're just not being covered

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in the media which is really interesting

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some are calling this the uh the silent

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layoffs really just a way of attrition

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in other words the companies Titan

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Workforce policies squeeze people out

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and then they're not really doing a

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layoff people are just quitting and then

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the companies aren't rehiring and so

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putting all this together I'm like okay

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all right let's get some actual data on

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this now I want to show you the other

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two earnings calls too but there's some

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concerning pieces of data that I also

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got from doing some more research I'm a

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big fan of research and charts so I like

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to go deep on this stuff and look at

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this okay this is an interesting chart

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so let me explain this one first so the

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white line tells you the unemployment

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rate

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the red line shows you the moving

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average of the unemployment rate and

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what you're looking here or what you're

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looking for is what in stocks we might

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call like the Golden Cross right where

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you move above the moving average like

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you finally break out of a declining

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Trend well in unemployment this is like

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the opposite okay this is bad so take a

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look at this this right here was about

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2007. so this would be about May 2007

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you get the unemployment rate slightly

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above the moving average of unemployment

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okay then uh you get recession obviously

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and then in the recession you get this

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massive Spike so that's 2007. look at

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two thousand uh well the end of 2000 at

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the beginning of 2001 right here what

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did you get unemployment rate spikes

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above the moving average which precedes

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explosion in unemployment so you get

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that here you get that here okay you

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ready for this uh well covid was was

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unique uh this isn't we don't have to so

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much pay attention to covet because

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everything kind of happened at the same

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time that's not to say that time was

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different like it obviously wasn't it

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just happened so rapidly you didn't

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really get much of a lead on that the

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economy shut down okay that's not a

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surprise look at this folks what just

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happened in the last two months the

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unemployment rate ticked up above the

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moving average again and combine this

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with somebody like the FED uh you know

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yesterday who was at Hawker yesterday

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the VP and the FED he goes look we think

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unemployment's gonna go to four maybe

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four and a half percent

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okay but every time historically the

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unemployment rate has risen one percent

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so from like three and a half to four

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and a half we go on to rise another at

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least one percent if not more

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so that's a problem but not only is that

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a problem unemployment

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destroys a lot of things it destroys

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lending it leads to more personal

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bankruptcies more business bankruptcies

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it leads to credit defaults credits

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obviously at an all-time high I don't

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actually think credit is in a horrible

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situation right now because the

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percentage of people's disposable income

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in other words people's capacity to pay

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their debt is very high but that changes

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when joblessness comes in right so

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that's that's all of a sudden where you

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compound the indicators in a bad way now

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all of a sudden you take bad jobs data

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add that to high debts now Your Capacity

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to pay off debt skyrockets now we don't

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exactly know when this unemployment

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surge could occur but we would expect

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that it would be in a higher interest

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rate environment So within the next year

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which is what the inversion of the yield

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curve the difference between the 10 and

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2 has been flagging it's also worth

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noting that stocks basically hit their

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Peak around June 19th and you know

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what's kind of crazy about that is the

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inverted yield curve started steepening

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right after June 19th like the Monday

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thereafter the inverted yield curve

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became less inverted

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in plain English usually when that curve

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steepens things get bad and things have

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gotten worse in the stock market and

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that curve is deepening at the same time

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now we're having these potentially

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legitimate employment concerns but what

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other leading indicators can we look at

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well let's go into what is this one this

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is randstadt this is another Employment

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Agency I can't remember if this was

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Monster or indeed and then I have the

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other company as well but these are the

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parent companies so look at some of the

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things they've seen or are saying here

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uh so um we found ourselves in q1 with a

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decline

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we and and these folks are like Dutch

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okay so so the translations here aren't

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great and we do see no sides of that

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stabilization and normalization

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[Laughter]

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in other words

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it's still bad and it's continuing to be

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bad they also talk about these comps to

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the great resignation where like you had

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a lot of people quit and then they find

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new jobs that was the great resignation

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that gave them a big boost because

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people were looking for new jobs but now

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we're coming down from the great

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resignation so the comps are terrible

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for these companies but what are they

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talking about well they're talking about

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manufacturing getting hit the hardest

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especially in Autos obviously we're

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seeing that a lot of Autos either laying

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off or quite frankly going bankrupt uh

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France was the only positive area they

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saw but Germany Italy the United States

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Netherlands all negative slower hiring

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environment for permanent placements

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this is very similar to what you're

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seeing with zip recruiter Automotive has

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been particularly challenging no changes

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of any sort instead we're just

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deteriorating across the board

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uh so uh you know listen to this so

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they're talking about like hey we think

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we'll be okay as long as demand comes

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back but listen to this if demand comes

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back I underlined that I read there uh

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they also said permanent job placements

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came down significantly more than we're

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seeing in q1 okay that is worsening

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things are getting worse not better like

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I've been looking for bearish stuff and

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I'm like no that's not bearish that's

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not bearish like I feel like I'm going

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through a newspaper right oh except like

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more updates I feel like I'm doing this

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through a newspaper I'm like no no

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that's not good that's not good that's

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not good now I'm like

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oh like like I know this is where people

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are like oh that's it Kevin's gonna

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flip-flop again look I just react to

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data that's I react to data and I look

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every single day for data and I haven't

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seen anybody cover all three of these

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earnings reports or whatever I got

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flagged to this by Nick T nobody else

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has been talking about about it and so

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I'm like let me look at the other

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companies let me also look at some Bank

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of America reports on this you want to

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see what the Bank of America reports are

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saying okay wait for this ready for this

10:20

all right so what do we have right here

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labor momentum has been Cooling and in a

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negative territory for 15 straight

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months and when we look at this chart

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where basically the light blue line is

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under the zero level look at where we

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were under the zero level before the.com

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recession before the 08 recession going

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into the pandemic uh that could have

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been a coincidence or we were setting up

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for another recession uh the current

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levels notice how in expansionary times

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like this number goes positive and it's

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not In fairness this is really murky

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here's another Bank of America piece

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just out that talks about how hey maybe

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we could actually see more wage

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increases which would create more

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potentially inflation and services as

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maybe we're underestimating how much the

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market could retighten but that's assume

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assuming a soft Landing what if we go

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the opposite direction using this chart

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from Bank of America we're actually

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potentially going in the worst Direction

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well to get a little bit more of a

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leading indicator I like to now jump

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over to let's see here that's runshot

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let's go to recruit I think recruit is

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indeed and I'm going to shut his monster

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I'm not exactly sure which but they're

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all recruiting firms okay so what does

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this one say this is now a third company

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so we saw bad news from ZipRecruiter we

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saw bad news from and uh now we're going

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to look at uh news from recruit I don't

11:42

want to poison the well here okay as you

11:45

know Global HR matching business is

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heavily impacted by economic environment

11:50

and therefore very important for us to

11:52

continue investing in the future while

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conservatively assuming a downturn

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followed by a period of economic

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stagnation

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uh what that doesn't sound very good a

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downturn followed by stagnation sounds

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terrible okay what do we have over here

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historically speaking the type job

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market has shown gradual improvement

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over the past year as we assumed however

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in comparison to the 2008 and 2009

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recessions where approximately 2.7

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million jobs were lost over a two-year

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period the number of jobs already lost

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in 2022 was 2.5 million so in other

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words we're at the same levels as 2008

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2009 what the f

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it has been very challenging to predict

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the speed of this decline it was also

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difficult to predict companies

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willingness to spend on hiring that it

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would decline at a rate faster than the

12:42

decline in job openings based on such

12:45

rapid change we paused hiring in our HR

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business uh in October of last year and

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in March we announced a Workforce

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reduction okay this is not good we

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intend to provide fiscal year guidance

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again when Outlook becomes clearer so in

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other words recruit is withdrawing

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guidance indeed is withdrawing guidance

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uh you've got expecting a decline of

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head counts through attrition rather

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than Mass layoffs which aligns with

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blinds indication that you know we're

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getting these silent layoffs this is not

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good

13:21

these are leading indicators of problems

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that we haven't been paying attention to

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before and I want to highlight them here

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as like hey well I'm a big fan of

13:32

volatile Nike Swoosh okay we get

13:34

Fibonacci retracements in the stock

13:35

market yada yada yada I think lending is

13:38

actually going to expand rather than

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contract that's all fine and dandy I

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believe all of that stuff but what if we

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actually end up getting up in jobs that

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transpires in 2024 well then we need to

13:51

be prepared for such a potential

13:53

environment where the unemployment rate

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skyrockets and everybody sort of has to

13:56

ask themselves what are you doing to

13:58

make sure that you're going to survive

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massive layoff rounds right it's scary

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uh now look practically what what is my

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thesis of all this well practically I

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think that patience is definitely

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important for the real estate market my

14:15

real estate startup I think is going to

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be in a phenomenal position to take

14:17

advantage of whatever happens that's

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househack we'll be raising from

14:21

non-accredited investors probably within

14:22

the next two or three weeks here which

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is very exciting I can't wait to

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announce that go to househack.com drop

14:27

your phone number in your email if you

14:29

want a heads up otherwise just wait for

14:30

the videos househack.com but anyway uh

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what's incredible here is I look at this

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as okay look it's either soft landing

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and we could go do wedge deals all day

14:41

long or people start paying excelling

14:43

and we buy those deals like either way

14:45

real estate startup totally fine

14:48

uh from a financial point of view like

14:50

financial news media that's already in a

14:53

recession every single Finance news

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portion has seen you know sort of a

14:59

decline which comes with sort of the

15:00

cycle that makes sense uh that's not

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much of a surprise we've been dealing

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with that since the beginning of 2022.

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uh I actually think there's probably

15:09

more demand now for potentially like

15:11

licensed financial services so stay

15:13

tuned we've got some announcements

15:15

coming up uh maybe even tomorrow by CPI

15:17

day so that'll be cool uh so then I also

15:20

look at okay what about software well

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remember how software Engineers were

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potentially complaining about not being

15:26

able to find a job that could actually

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be accelerated by AI which means on one

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hand you could have economic expansion

15:33

with layoffs that would be weird right

15:35

that's basically AI making certain

15:38

programmers more productive but closing

15:40

the door to others that would be bad for

15:43

people but probably okay for the economy

15:46

right you could get through that unless

15:48

the sign of these software Engineers not

15:49

being able to get work is a sign of a

15:51

broader economic pullback I I obviously

15:53

don't know yet what the answer is but uh

15:56

my take is that we want to pay attention

15:59

to this very very closely you should

16:00

subscribe for more information and more

16:02

updates on exactly this I don't care if

16:04

it's bad news or good news I'm always

16:05

going to do my best to provide value to

16:07

you so hopefully you uh you regularly uh

16:09

come back check in on these videos share

16:11

the videos I really appreciate you I

16:13

just do my best with the data I've got

16:15

and I keep looking for more leading

16:17

indicators I think those are very very

16:18

important and this one not great so

16:20

we're gonna pay attention to those

16:21

companies as well so anyway thanks so

16:23

much for watching really appreciate you

16:25

being here uh cheers I got the beautiful

16:27

RuneScape cup here and I guess I'm

16:29

entering the uh

16:30

the Wilderness see what I did there

16:32

anyway sorry I had to do that uh hey

16:35

when are they going to come out with a

16:36

new Splinter Cell by the way and can you

16:38

please leave a comment if you're seeing

16:39

any of this kind of joblessness or any

16:41

issues thanks so much goodbye now I want

16:42

you to know this when it comes to AI

16:45

time is what's going to make you money

16:47

and if you can prove that value to an

16:50

employer you'll always be able to be

16:52

employed so this is another way of

16:54

making sure that you don't get replaced

16:57

by artificial intelligence if you can

16:59

Master AI by starting on the ground

17:01

floor

17:02

let's go

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