The Coming Bankruptcy of Ford & Tesla.
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Elon Musk just got the results of his
lawsuit not only that but Ford has some
insane things to say and boy it's gonna
make all the Tesla people nervous or
will it we'll talk about all of that in
this video so first musk and Tesla were
sued with potential damages as high as 6
to 12 billion dollars for Elon musk's
August of 2018 tweet taking Tesla
private at 4 20. the SEC alleged that
that tweet was false that Elon Musk had
no rational basis for making that tweet
Elon Musk replied and said I totally did
not only did I have Goldman Sachs and
bankers lined up to fund it but the
Saudi Arabian private investment fund
was essentially providing me with a
handshake deal that they would help me
buy out Tesla and even though later
there was some confusion and some
backtracking on that handshake deal Elon
Musk believes that at the time he made
the Tweet he was completely correct in
making the Tweet the SEC ended up
settling with Elon Musk and finding him
20 million dollars requiring Elon Musk
to have a Twitter babysitter that is
somebody who monitors Elon musk's tweets
before he actually posts his tweets now
I actually doubt that happens but so far
the SEC has been relatively silent on
whether or not Elon Musk actually is
maybe because he hasn't been tweeting
stuff like taking Tesla private at 420
anymore and most of his tweets have
turned more into Political tweets
but anyway moving on from that
settlement which Elon Musk says he was
forced into because otherwise Banks were
going to limit access to his wholesale
lines of credit which would have stalled
model 3 production at Tesla and led to a
potential Tesla bankruptcy what happened
today fast forward investors say they
didn't make enough money on their Tesla
option and trade contracts and they
missed out on the rally and even though
the judge in the San Francisco District
Judge Chan ended up telling the court
Elon Musk
tweets about testing taking Tesla
private at 420 funding secured were
untrue even though the judge said Elon
musk's tweets were untrue which would
have easily set up for an appeals court
claim because that could be deemed a
lack of due process despite that the
jury ended up deciding that Elon Musk
had no liability and making the Tweet
funding secured and any of the trade
losses that people incurred or lack of
additional gains that people wanted were
the fault of people themselves and so
the entire class action lawsuit was
dismissed and this is shocking given
that it was in a San Francisco Court
this happened which goes to show that
even people in San Francisco realized
what happened to Elon Musk is BS which
is pretty dang impressive now don't get
me wrong I like people in San Francisco
I think they're very smart and
intelligent people and I think this
shows Justice because it shows that the
people are not as loony as the political
system is in San Francisco I think the
Judge system the judicial system in San
Francisco is substantially more rigged
now don't get me wrong okay I'm gonna go
slight tinfoil hat here but I highly
believe it
I have been in San Francisco courts I
represented myself because I had to fire
my attorney in a San Francisco court
because I couldn't get any Democratic
attorney to represent me why because I
was running for governor against the
Democratic governor and nobody wanted to
be seen as representing somebody
fighting the Democratic governor because
if you take a democratic attorney into a
democratic Court while you're trying to
replace the existing Governor nobody
else wants to work with that attorney
because you can't go against the
existing Governor how dare there be a
free political process but here's the
part that could potentially be slightly
rigged of California courts and is
potentially why judge Chan okay again
maybe slightly tinfoil had here but
potentially why judge Chan went hard on
Elon Musk suggesting to the jury that
Elon Musk tweets her faults judge Chan
is a democratic judge in the San
Francisco District
Democratic judges in the San Francisco
District have a very close relationship
to the governor of California now why
does that matter well it matters a lot
because the governor of California
anytime he gets sued his cases end up in
courts in Northern California San
Francisco and Sacramento courts Northern
District Courts and guess what those
judges want they want to be in the good
graces of the governor now why would
judges in Northern California want to be
in the good graces of the governor of
California oh that's right because the
governor of California is usually seen
as a stepping stone to become president
oh well that's interesting so if you're
the governor of California maybe you
want to run to be president one day
which is exactly what Gavin Newsom is
basically revving up to do should Joe
Biden not run for president in 2024 we
widely expect Gavin Newsom to step in
now why is that really interesting
because if Gavin Newsom were to become
president guess what the president does
ah they appoint federal judges that
means you take judges from the state
level and you move them up to federal
judges and guess what federal judges get
to potentially become Supreme Court
judges and so you got to kind of stroke
the governor as a California judge to
have hopes that the California governor
becomes president and then potentially
you get promoted to a federal judge and
maybe a Supreme Court judge in the
future it's all part of the game so when
I say I'm putting on my tinfoil hat
let's be real some of that stuff
actually happens it's all long-term
planning okay this is why the judicial
system in California
really mirrors whatever the hell the
governor wants so if you go against the
governor even if you have a great
argument you're more likely to lose now
what do we have to say about Elon Musk
and Tesla well first it's great that
Elon Musk and Tesla don't have to
actually deal with a potential 6 to 12
billion dollar liability although if
this did end up being a loss that's 6 to
12 billion dollar liability would have
probably been settled down to 500
million to a billion dollars but it's
nice and after hours after the court
case was decided Tesla stock did rise
about two percent it never really made
it to 200 though so good news for those
of you who do not want me to dye my hair
green I will not be dyeing my hair green
Tesla did not make it it came within a
dollar and one cent and it just couldn't
make it it just didn't have the pricing
power to make it there however what you
did end up having was Tesla increasing
prices for some of its model wise model
y long range was increased 2.8 percent
model y a standard was increased 1.8 or
1.75 percent however the model 3 rear
rear wheel drive vehicle was dropped in
price one point one percent so you've
had some small pricing adjustments and
you did also have the IRS and Treasury
Department finally providing the
appropriate Clarity that was needed to
indicate that now all model y Vehicles
actually qualify for the full 7 500
federal tax EV credit including model
wise that sell up to an eighty thousand
dollar MSRP up from fifty five thousand
dollars this is a great win for not just
Tesla but quite frankly any EV
manufacturer so this is fantastic it is
great that these tax credit rules have
been clarified so good win on the
lawsuit by musk we learned a little bit
about the rigged system we learned about
EV tax credits but what the hell did
Ford just do okay Ford this is a
laughable one this I'm gonna bring you
first to the most Salient part of the
forward earnings call and I have to tell
you this part was ridiculous because
they basically sell you a stock that
isn't Ford
and that's the funny part
so first what we want to do is we want
to go to an analyst Rob latch
Rob latch asks the question
considering everyone's aspirations for
growth in electric vehicles do you think
you can stand by pricing assumptions and
maybe in another way of asking this do
you think you can sell and I'm putting
this on screen now as well so you can
see him just reading this verbatim from
the earnings call transcript okay this
is what I do by the way I read this
stuff with my team team by the way
amazing team now I used to do all this
stuff alone now I get to do more content
because I've got a great team helping me
these guys are awesome teams amazing
You'll Rock uh but anyway do you think
you can sell a forty thousand dollar
electric Crossover with a 20 gross
margin now why would Rod latch be asking
this question because Tesla folks Tesla
said worst case scenario their gross
profit margin would be 20 percent
so in other words Rod is asking the
question here hey do you think you can
compete with Tesla's margins and let me
provide you the CEO of Ford's response
he starts off by saying that's a very
important Crush question the reality is
we will we we are structuring our
portfolio to compete in very specific
segments now if you just read the
transcript there it seems like he's
saying we will get to 20 gross margins
but I actually went to listen to the
audio and he corrected himself he didn't
confirm that they will he kind of
stumbled over that the way I just said
it was kind of like he did the reality
is we were
restructuring to our portfolio to
compete in very specific segments
crossover is turning to be more core
Civic to the EV business blah blah blah
talks about the lightning being sold out
even though they are not profitable on
the EV segment we'll talk about that in
just a moment the real driver of our
future profitability is on second Cycle
products and this is really interesting
because listen to them talk about the
iterative process of manufacturing
we didn't know when we designed the
first three EV products we didn't know
that wiring harnesses for the machiave
were longer than they needed to be we
didn't know that batteries were heavier
than they needed to be we didn't know
that we under invested in braking
technology to save on battery size in
other words they're basically saying
look we've been really unprofitable at
EVS because we don't know what we're
doing with EV manufacturing but we're
learning okay that's super normal right
so far very very normal to expect the
iterative process of manufacturing to
make a better uh to make a better
vehicle right to be clear this is the
earnings call so this is not an article
this is an earnings call from Ford so
they talk about how they need their
learning how to manufacture better and
they're very optimistic they're also
very optimistic because they have a lot
of new Talent now don't get me wrong but
when I hear they have a lot of new
Talent it kind of suggests that the old
Talent just don't know how to make
electric vehicle and that's because
obviously they're in the internal
combustion engine business now what's
interesting here is they're basically
selling this idea that we want to make
cars with fewer Parts the CEO of Ford is
basically handing it to Tesla who's
making cars with fewer Parts via their
Giga presses but that's not even the
entertaining part let's keep going we
want to play hard our strength our
commercial truck larger vehicles on the
category side we don't want to have too
many choices this was a little the
transcription here wasn't great but
basically they're saying we don't want
to have too many cars for people to
choose from because that puts a lot of
costs on our engineers and we're trying
to be more profitable on electric
vehicles so we want to give people fewer
cars to choose from which is the
opposite of what Legacy car automakers
usually do and it's exactly what Tesla
does you don't have that many choices
it's kind of like Ford back in the 1920s
Henry Ford you can have any cars that
you want as long as it's black and it
was was basically just the black Model T
right and so they want they like that
because you can have better margins when
they you do this they're also talking
about designing smaller batteries for
competitive size now I personally think
that is actually really great and it's
something that Tesla's probably going to
do in the future as well you're going to
end up coming out with 20 kilowatt hour
battery packs as soon as people get over
the head the mental Head trip that you
need a big ass battery that you're
lugging around the fact of the matter is
most people don't need a big battery in
their car because what it does is it
adds more weight and ruins your fuel
efficiency you really only need 80 mile
charges and you plug the thing in every
night so you should have a daily
commuter and then maybe a more
long-range vehicle I think that's
perfect because most households have
multiple cars anyway so
then this is where things get
interesting okay he talks about how
basically we have negative pricing on
electric vehicles right now and this is
very true Ford does not expect to be
profitable on electric vehicles until
2026. there's a company called uh Ford
Authority they are a uh they're they're
sort of a news organization it's kind of
like a nine to five Mac but for cars and
uh here's the article from them where
they talk about investing 50 billion
dollars in electric vehicles in the next
coming years how they're trying to
produce 600 000 electric vehicles by the
end of 2023 this is a recent article by
the way from Feb one here and what's
interesting is six hundred thousand
Vehicles is a run rate of about 50 000
vehicles per month in 2022 guess how
many vehicles Ford produced per month
that were electric they want to produce
fifty thousand guess how many they
actually produced
12.
okay they produced 12 000 Vehicles so
they wanted more than 4X how many
vehicles they're making that are
electric in their ramp process uh they
expect to get to 2 million electric
vehicles by 2026. however folks let's
make it very very clear all you have to
do is read the headline here and we
already knew this
Ford electric vehicles still not
expected to be profitable until
2026. think about that for a moment
folks
Ford still can't figure out how to make
a buck on electric vehicles today in
2023 as they're ramping they still can't
figure it out neither can rivian rivian
people are like oh Tesla lost a lot of
money as well when they were ramping
their cars not on a gross profit margin
basis Tesla in 2014 when they produced
as many vehicles as rivien about 7000
Vehicles could actually go look at the
earnings calls they're all public and
the earnings reports Tesla had about 20
percent gross margin all the way back to
2014. in 2014 when they were doing just
7 000 Vehicles Tesla was positive
without energy credits let me let me
just like demonstrate that to you here
okay look 24 2014 Tesla had 20 percent
gross margin without credits it was like
29 gross margin with the credits okay
that was in 2014 Folks at the same time
in 2020 2. rivian producing about the
same amount as Tesla then
is negative substantially negative on
their gross profit margin and in 2023
2024 and 2025 Ford is also expected to
have a negative gross margin and byd the
only Electric Vehicle Manufacturer
that's actually remotely killing it is
sitting at a margin of about 1.5 percent
that's really really well that's I mean
like they're they're gross margins a
little higher let me not confuse that
here let's let's just stick with gross
profit I'm sorry with byd just pretend I
didn't say that for a moment because byd
that's their net margin that's not fair
that's their bottom line their gross
margin is a little higher uh actually
they you know they they that's how they
actually are remotely profitable uh is
they make ice Vehicles they make uh
hybrid vehicles and they're they're
definitely a better company than uh when
it comes to making Vehicles than like
rivien or Ford these guys can't figure
it out uh but the point is that Tesla
back in the day of a relatively similar
production of of rivian was able to
figure it out
Ford still can't figure it out they're
not figuring it out today they can't
figure it out going forward and they
probably won't figure it out until 2026
and I hate to say it but even as you get
to 2026 it's just hopium if they
actually end up making it profitable
which is kind of remarkable if you think
about it it's kind of embarrassing in my
opinion now not only is that
embarrassing but this is where things
get really embarrassing I hate to say it
but this is where the earnings call just
goes ugly you ready for this so in the
earnings call they talk about what
becomes more critical because they
realize that in the future there's going
to be more competition for electric
vehicles and they actually literally say
and because of that competition quote we
have to expect negative pricing okay now
after they talk about negative pricing
they talk about electric vehicle
software becoming more critical for the
business now this is where things in my
opinion actually get laughable because
the analysts ask them hey how are you
ever going to get profitable right how
are you ever going to make money on
electric vehicles and what Ford says is
the following I'm going to play the
audio of it so you could hear it because
I thought it was funny I also posted it
on Twitter ready for this here we go
play audio on Twitter now not the EV
platforms but our new fully updatable
electric architecture because what we've
learned on Pro is we can make real money
out of software
not our batteries all right
what you learned on profort is that we
can make real money on software and he
kind of says it like a creep
it felt very creepy listening to the
earnings call the way he said it but
yeah but beyond me just like bagging on
the way he said it let's think about
what he just said
he was asked by an analyst do you think
you can get to 20 gross profit margins
and he talks about trying to make the
manufacturing process better we know
they're not going to be profitable until
2026 we know they can't figure out how
to make EVS profitable and at the same
time he's warning that electric vehicles
are going to be a negative pricing
Market
and so how does he end the answer he
ends the answer with we can make real
money on software and I'm like dude what
software clown that's what I wrote on
Twitter because I'm sincere with that
what software what software I'll tell
you what software they're talking about
they're talking about the following
they're talking about their their blue
Cruise or whatever you call it yeah it's
Ford's Bluetooth and basically they
refer to this idea that Consumer Reports
suggest that blue cruise is a better
active driving assistance system than
Tesla and what they do is when you go to
the ratings you'll actually see that
some of the heaviest weights are the
following keeping driver engaged nine
out of ten for Ford
unresponsive driver 6 out of ten clear
when safe to use nine out of ten yeah
that's because you could barely use it
anywhere so they give these bigger
ratings for Ford when you scroll down to
Tesla it says keeping driver engaged
three out of ten clear when safe to use
three out of ten unresponsive driver 4
out of ten and what they say is the
following listen to this this is
ridiculous okay this is the bagging that
they give Tesla you ready for this it is
also disappointing that Advanced Driver
autonomy systems for some automakers
allow their vehicles to drive for a long
time without the driver applying any
pressure to the steering wheel so wait a
second let's pause for a moment let's
just think about what he said for a
moment
this author of this Consumer Reports
article is saying it's disappointing
that you don't have to grab the steering
wheel and wobble it more often in other
words it's disappointing that you have
to be annoyed less
look when I'm driving and my car is
steering I don't want to have to wiggle
the damn wheel all the time it's
annoying it's really annoying I sit
there I watch what the car is doing and
if there's a case where I get nervous I
grab the wheel and make sure it does the
right thing which it usually does
thankfully knock on wood if I need to
take over I take over I'm paying
attention but I don't need to sit there
like this the whole time if the car is
driving itself it's stupid
this is why the cameras now make you pay
attention to the road with your eyes
instead of always having these manual
inputs
but what is Consumer Reports say they
just happen to also be uh you know get
fundraising for fundraising and pro and
remember Consumer Reports as a
non-profit they you know there there's a
lot of Legacy auto uh and old school
Legacy auto and oil industries that are
sort of backing uh Consumer Reports so
there's some tinfoil hat you can put on
regarding that but we won't go down that
road let's just literally look at the
words that they're saying and the words
they're using are again it is
disappointing that
automakers allow their vehicles to drive
for a long time without requiring the
driver to apply any pressure to the
steering wheel let alone make sure the
driver is actually paying attention to
the road in our tests both Mercedes and
Tesla allowed the vehicle to drive down
the highway for about 30 seconds before
the first audible alert was given to the
driver to put a hand back on the
steering wheel
so to this I tweeted and I wrote yo Mike
Monticello and Consumer Reports did you
really sandbag Tesla versus Ford because
quote it's disappointing Tesla allowed
the vehicle to drive 30 seconds before
the first audible alert was given to the
driver to put their hand back on the
steering wheel how much is Ford paying
you
serious it's ridiculous so in other
words
Consumer Reports is trying to prop up
the Ford software by bagging on Tesla
because Tesla doesn't nag you enough
at the same time the Ford CEO is talking
about how important software is to their
margins because when they're asked about
ever being able to get to 20 gross
margin they are basically punting and
saying we don't think we can ever do
that without software what software Jim
what software y'all suck there's no
surprise your stock went down six
percent because you just gave terrible
guidance for the future of your ability
to actually compete with EVS now what's
crazy is a lot of people actually invest
in the value traps like Ford because
they think oh well they know how to
manufacture cars they're going to be
able to make it well apparently not
it's really embarrassing very
embarrassing now I'll give you some
highlights okay some highlights because
I don't just want to be bad
the Ford Lightning is sold out well
that's because they barely make the
lightning again they were only able to
make about 12 000 Vehicles a month uh
last year they hope to grow that but by
growing that they're just going to lose
even more money I hate to say that again
I'm not trying to be mean here I'm just
being a realist Ford lost money they had
not only negative net income look it's
on screen I'm not making this stuff up
here's the Ford Motor Company
Consolidated statement of cash flows for
the period ending December 31st 2022 net
income minus 2.1 billion dollars not
only did they lose money on a net basis
but guess what folks and this is before
we actually have the pricing War
happening they lost money before the
pricing cuts and now they want to ramp
EVs and lose money more until 2026 Ford
is going to be losing money year after
year after year and and if they can't
make it they're either going to continue
getting subsidized by their shareholders
and they'll have to continue to take on
even more debt or they'll go bankrupt
and somebody else will take over the
sort of the ideas of the lightning but
what do you have over here oh my gosh
you don't even have free cash flow
you have
6.8 billion dollars of operating cash
but you spent 6.866 on Capital spending
you've got negative free cash flow about
13 million dollars that's not that
terrible you're pretty close but
basically any kind of cash flow you
actually have you're blowing into losing
more money it's embarrassing
okay trying to look at some other I'll
try try to find some other bright sides
here what do we have they're building
battery plants in Tennessee uh Kentucky
Europe they're building a new battery
facility in Turkey enjoy the 68
inflation you got over there Ford
expects to have a hundred percent of the
raw material in Lock by the end of the
year so they can actually make these
cars that's great lock in all that raw
material pricing now so when deflation
happens y'all are still stuck at high
prices that's fine average retail price
of a Ford is 56 500 compared to forty
nine thousand dollars for average across
all brands and fifty two thousand
dollars for Tesla that's actually
interesting the average price of a Ford
is more expensive than the average price
of a Tesla or the average price of a
regular car yet some people like to go
test is a luxury auto manufacturer so is
Ford then as well is Ford also then a
luxury auto manufacturer if the average
retail price of a Ford is more expensive
than a Tesla
it's ridiculous it is a ludicrous some
of these people who prop up these Legacy
automakers on a pedestal suggesting that
oh but their valuation is good yeah
because they're a value trap come on
step bro you stuck
Ford expects to build up to high volumes
they're bragging about having the best
hands-free Automotive system on the
market thanks to the consumer reports
tweet uh or post it's ridiculous they do
expect a mild recession in the United
States and Europe they expect higher
industry incentives as supply and demand
comes back into balance uh they expect
Tailwinds because of improvements in
Supply chains great they complained a
lot about Supply chains being very
inefficient
and uh
they hope things get better not only in
materials but also in Freight because
they took a nine billion dollar headwind
in 2022. and going forward to 2023 they
actually expect a Tailwind on this
department but they still lose their
money
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