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Will Elon Musk Bankrupt Tesla Stock?

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hey so you might remember me from the

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early days of Tesla YouTube given that I

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bought a model X in 2017 it was one of

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the first to make full self-driving

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videos on YouTube and at least review my

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positive experience with the product I'm

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not trying to take credit for anything

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but I've been a very big and loyal fan

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of Tesla now I have had my ups and downs

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in terms of when's the valuation a

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little rich and you know when is it low

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now what I'd like to talk about though

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in this video is the prospect that a

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Tesla might go bankrupt I see these

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videos a lot uh and I'm actually maybe I

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shouldn't say I'm s surprised but I I

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honestly am I feel a little surprised by

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how much negative sentiment there has

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been around Elon Musk and his

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participation with the Trump

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Administration uh fundraising for Trump

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was one thing but now working under you

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know basically running Doge and working

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as a federal employee and unpaid federal

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employee uh has has clearly pushed

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buttons further than a lot of people are

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satisfied with now it's unclear whether

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these comments are just bot armies

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online but let's put it this way the

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viewership for you know Tesla's going

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bankrupt and hate on Elon and commentary

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about hate on Elon is at the highest

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levels I I have ever seen and it's it is

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very very negative so what I'd like to

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do is just uh look at the financials of

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Tesla and decide is Tesla a company that

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could end up going bankrupt during the

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Trump Administration uh what what do

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their financials actually look like and

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what are the odds that you know your

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investment in Tesla could basically go

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to zero uh vice versa is

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elon's involvement with politics

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potentially going to create one of the

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greatest buying opportunities ever in

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Tesla uh and uh something that you won't

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want to miss so let's talk about that I

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think the easiest thing to do is let's

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just start with their balance sheet and

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understand a little bit of what kind of

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capital that they actually what they're

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working with right and once we

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understand what assets they have then we

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might get a good idea in terms of okay

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all right got it these are the assets

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they have here's how much they're

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burning here's what their expansionary

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plans are what do we think can they go

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bankrupt okay so with that let's get

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into the financials so we'll jump on

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over here and let's take a peek at what

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we got so this is their balance sheet

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for the year ending uh just about 6

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weeks ago now we can see that they've

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got about $36 billion of cash in

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short-term equivalents right here we've

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only got some accounts receivable 4

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billion bucks inventories of about 12

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prepaid expenses let's see what we've

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got in the liability sector here we've

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got $22 billion of uh liabilities so

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these are bills on the desk of of Elon

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so to speak that have to be paid uh and

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then we've got some deferred revs and

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some of other items here so if we just

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net these out this is very conservative

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by the way since they still have an

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extra $16 billion of receivable rece

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aables and inventory here you know that

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inventory still has to be processed you

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still have to pay employees to put it

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together or Optimus robots whatever uh

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and you know accounts receivable I see

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as like a little cushion a little safety

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net I usually don't like adding it in

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you could discount it by 50% if you

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wanted to but either way let's take $36

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billion and let's subtract it from the

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current liabilities so we got about $14

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billion of free cash right now that's

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actually really good for a cash flowing

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business Tesla has enough CA free cash

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right now you know excluding their

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long-term liabilities which aren't due

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this year uh really we don't have to

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worry about these right now other than

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the debt service on these long-term

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liabilities just the current portions uh

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of them you could add this extra 2.4

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billion in here usually I don't include

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leases but hey include it leaves them

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about 12 billion said 11 and a half it's

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enough to actually build a whole another

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uh at least the frame work has been

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built out personally I think that is a

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little bit more like I don't I don't

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know that they're actually ready to

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manufacture yet I think some of that is

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sort of like signaling like look we're

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expanding which is fine like I I'm happy

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to see it finally get built out I'm very

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happy about that because I do think

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autonomous Trucking has a very

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significant future in our lifetimes I

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don't know how soon it'll come but I

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think that's that's a that's money well

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spent like there is a lot of demand for

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that in in the trucking space uh that

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said uh and you know with if we have any

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more kids I'm going to need a semi truck

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for my

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family we have seven kids in case you

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didn't catch the latest update there but

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anyway we're not going to build a gig of

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Mexico uh it's just not going to happen

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right now with the trade Wars that are

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going on and frankly we don't really

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need more supply of Teslas uh mostly

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because it seems like demand has roughly

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matched Supply it doesn't seem like

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there's this over supply of inventory

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where they're massively discounting or

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they're freaking out or whatever uh but

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it does seem like we don't have a need

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for more capacity right now so these

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ideas that musk is talking with Modi for

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India or visiting Taiwan or all these

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other areas they create this feeling of

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like oh musk might build a factory there

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he's been saying that for years yes

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eventually there should be a gigafactory

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on every continent and we'll get there

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in the longer term but not when interest

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rates are as high as they are and right

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now it doesn't look like interest rates

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are going to come down anytime soon now

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I actually believe that creates a

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short-term buying opportunity for

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interest rate sensitives that actually

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includes real estate like I I don't

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think we have a real estate recession on

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the horizon we might have a layoff

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recession on the horizon but I don't

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think we have a real estate recession on

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the horizon which actually is is

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fascinating because it means you now

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have a unique opportunity to increase

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your exposure to real estate

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assets uh and uh it's entirely possible

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as rates come down we expect valuations

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to then become even more unaffordable uh

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because prices might go up that's my

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take that's why why I kind of think now

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is an interesting time to buy real

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estate as rates are high uh and that's

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what we're doing but anyway as far as

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Tesla I actually think Tesla has a lot

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of uh hope regarding Optimus and FSD

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priced in which I don't think will come

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to fruition as quickly as markets think

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and so I think when you combine the

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sales impact of musk and a delayed

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Optimus in FSD future there'll be a

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really big buying opportunity for Tesla

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the question is just will elon's Antics

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lead to share depression or will it lead

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to Company bankruptcy so if we have 11

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and half billion dollars of cash and

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this is a company that's not actually

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burning any cash you know if we go to

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our free cash flow statement we are cash

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flow positive uh right so we've got net

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cash provided by operating activities

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they basically double their cash on hand

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however if we take out the Investments

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they're making into New Capital

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expenditures we're growing the cash pile

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by about 2 and 1 half to three billion

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bucks you can see that right here net

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cash provided by operating activities uh

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and then we're going to uh discount out

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some of these um Capital expenditures

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now this isn't the cleanest way to do it

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because yes accounts payable will show

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up here in the cash flow statement as

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well when they pay these items uh so

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keep that in mind uh that'll make some

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adjustments so some argue that's double

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counting but I like to be conservative I

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look at this as it's a company that's

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got about 12 billion bucks in cash and

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they're adding to that pile call it $2

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billion a year that's the status quo

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right now so now let's make an argument

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that uh Tesla vehicle deliveries don't

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stay flat they actually decline 10% so

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let's go to our uh net income uh and see

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what the H you know what our GNA might

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not change that much

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uh so let's actually just do assume a

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10% decline in Automotive Sales uh we

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could just go total revenues over here

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so let's take10 billion off at margin

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well what's margin margin right now is

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to the net ah go gross profit again

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because of the Opex over here we've got

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gross profit of 174 I've got total

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revenues yes this does include some tax

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credits which could get damaged by Trump

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although I don't think Trump is going to

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hit those manufacturing tax credits

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because he made in America right but he

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might get rid of some of the subsidies

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which could reduce bu demand so we're at

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a 17.8% margin for the year if we drop

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sales by 10% we would only be shaving

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off about $1.7 billion which actually

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means we're still cash flow positive so

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now if I double that and I take out $3.5

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billion well now I lose $1.5 billion a

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year but I have 12 so if I take 12

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divided 1.5 I actually have 8 years of

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funding Runway with just the cash they

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have available and a 20% decline in

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sales so eight years is going to get you

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through this next Bull cycle which I

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don't know how close to the top we are

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in it it's going to get you through the

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next recession uh it it'll get you

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pretty far now if you had a 50% decline

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in sales right well okay now you're

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going to have layoffs so some of your

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Opex is going to go down your margin

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might get hit a little bit a lot more

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things could happen but a 50% decline in

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sales at I'll just keep the same

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approximate margin that's going to cost

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9

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billion if that happened they would

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still be sitting on $3

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billion now I also think that Tesla if

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it were in those sort of Dire Straits

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where sales collapsed 50% for all their

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revenues right that includes energy Mega

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packs cars a 50% decline they still have

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$3 billion left

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given that they're a MAG 7 and they're

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an over1 trillion

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company they're let's put it this way

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they're going to be able to raise more

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money people will offer them convertible

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bonds which is a very very common

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strategy mind you uh I'll give you an

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example of a convertible bond that Tesla

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did uh Tesla convertible bonds I believe

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it was

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2014 and yeah here it is the end of

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Tesla's convertible Bond area they can

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actually just go back to this but in a

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March of

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2021 convertible bonds Tesla issued back

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in 2014 will convert at a more than

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800% gain so now what's remarkable about

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this is they issued $600 million in 2013

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2 billion in 2014 850 million in 2017

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and additional 1.6 in 2019 so they were

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constantly raising convertibles and

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they're doing that because they're

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Capital intensive business right these

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are 7-year convertibles and they had a

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coupon of just

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1.25% some of them the 5 years in 2014

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had a convertible as low as just

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0.25% which is kind of remarkable

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because people weren't really investing

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in it for the yield the cool thing about

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a convertible is it gives you preference

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over common shareholders if the company

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goes into

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bankruptcy so they get paid back first

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they get their debt paid back but a

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convertible has the option of converting

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into shares usually at higher share

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prices and boom you get the upside with

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downside protection it's kind of cool

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it's actually we looked at Tesla uh to

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do that with house hack so think about

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that for a moment with with house hack

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we offer a 5% coupon right now it's to

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accredited investors over at house

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act.com but we're releasing the non

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accredited round soon and we're just

11:52

going to dump money into real estate

11:53

basically if you have questions you can

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always email us at IR house act.com but

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anyway 5% coupon even for the non-ac

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credited uh converts at the current

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valuation you know in in a few years uh

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so you don't actually need to see the

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company go up in valuation more than

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like a penny and then you could convert

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to shares in the future but it gives you

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that downside protection and a 5% yield

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uh per year right which is kind of cool

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uh and and really what we did is we

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copied the Tesla Model except because

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we're collecting rent and we can pay out

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5% we're paying out 5% so it's kind of

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cool anyway that's that's just a little

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bit of a comparison over here but the

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reason I mention that is because Capital

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intensive businesses that build

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factories or buy real estate similarity

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there uh they can raise they have the

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capacity to raise money and then they

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could use that raised money to diversify

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to uh you know continue their business

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operations to get through great times to

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get through bad times whatever they need

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to do uh and then that could convert in

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the future and like they did over here

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rewarding investors with more than 84%

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return they give people an opportunity

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to have downside protection and a yield

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and upside side which is kind of cool so

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this is a uh this is an option that they

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have on the table to raise money this

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doesn't even consider that they could

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also just straight up sell shares so

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there are a lot of things they could do

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to get by but really if they could get

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through a 50% sales decline there's

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basically no chance Tesla's going

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bankrupt because sales aren't going to

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decline 50% these are the best EVS that

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exist they're great Vehicles do I wish

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they came out with a lower cost car of

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course do I think they're overly

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optimistic on the time frames on Optimus

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and FSD absolutely

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do I wish they had apple carplay and is

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that why maybe Elon Musk retweeted uh

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Tim Cook saying we have a new partner

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coming into the family or whatever I

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think so H Mars thinks no fine

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everybody's going to have their

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different opinion but do I think Tesla's

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going to go bankrupt no I just think

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there's going to be some sales

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disappointment not only globally but

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also in the United States with tariffs

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and high rates for longer I think the

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next year to two probably be more

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challenging at getting some of these

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these things ramped and so I see them as

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sort of like nibble opportunities buy

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the dip opportunities increase exposure

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opportunities uh and I think there will

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be opportunities to buy cheaper how much

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cheaper we don't know we I mean we we

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have seen that stocks can run really far

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past uh a fundamental valuation uh like

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one of my favorites my ogs of artificial

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intelligence paler which you know we've

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been reviewing the course member live

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stream for years and saying these people

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have a crazy good balance sheet and

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amazing margins well you know they

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valuation is cooky now and their growth

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isn't that high to justify their

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valuation but that's okay markets can go

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through these weird times and it's sort

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of like Warren Buffett says you know

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imagine you're getting ready to swing a

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bat and people are pitching at you you

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want to buy Tesla at 400 nah bro you

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want to buy Tesla 500 nah bro you want

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to buy Tesla 300 nah bro you want to buy

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Tesla 200 hell yeah you want to buy

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Tesla 150 back up the truck right just

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an example that's that's sort of the

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Warren Buffet impression I think that's

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why he sits on cash so much because he

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sort of waits for blood in the street

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and panic and we're not in that sort of

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case right now but the whole point of

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this video is to say even if we were in

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that case now because of elon's you know

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Antics or call it whatever you want uh

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you know we could talk separately about

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Doge and now doge is getting involved in

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the uh Internal Revenue Service Doge

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officers have showed up to the IRS this

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is this is like entertaining this is

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this is like a drama show is pretty

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incredible we talk about this every

15:25

morning in the one and a half hour live

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stream we do every single morning uh

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including weekends now in the course

15:30

member live streams get lifetime access

15:32

to those over at me kevin.com but uh

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this is fascinating I do not see a

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chance of a Tesla going backround you

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would have to have a

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foreign Eevee maker and competitor come

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in and basically destroy Tesla and Trump

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is just never going to let it happen we

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have two protectionists of a government

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so we're not going to see that we're not

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going to see a homegrown like a Nicola

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or a lucid take over Nicola is about

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bankrupt uh and um yeah honestly even if

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you're holding shares now and you're

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like okay so like do I sell and rebby

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look not personalized Financial advice I

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just be straight I don't I don't think

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it's necessary to try to be perfect with

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timing it just it leads to too much of a

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likelihood of making mistakes my point

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is you know maybe just keep some money

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for those dip days you know we di down

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to 318 like I said what happened in the

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alpha report we bounced off that so

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freaking hard we bounced right up to 355

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last 2 days in a row were great you know

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2 and a half yesterday and 5.7% today

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really good and the Market's just

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overall very optimistic because you know

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tariffs are kind of coming on slowly

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there are a negotiation point the

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economy keeps chugging along so far

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layoffs aren't showing up in the jobs

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report I mean I don't know if bitcoin's

16:47

trying to tell us something but you know

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that's all like anybody's guess at this

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point but as far as Tesla I don't see it

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going bankrupt obviously I'll let you

16:54

know if anything changes I can't give

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you personalized Financial advice but I

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hope this is helpful for you sort of my

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opinion of of where we stand the margins

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are too good and even though you know

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battery margins are declining for their

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energy business the more battery margins

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decline for their energy business the

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more competitive the batteries become

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for their car business right and the

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cheaper it is for them to sell cars with

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batteries so anyway optimistic long-term

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shortterm hey Anything Can Happen

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doesn't take much of a shock anyway

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thank you so much for being here really

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appreciate you uh I'm working on my best

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to bring in as much content as possible

17:29

we'll see you all soon thanks so much

17:30

folks goodbye and good luck out there

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told us here I feel like nobody else

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knows about this we'll try a little

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advertising and see how it Go

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congratulations man you have done so

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much people love you people look up to

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you Kevin P there financial analyst and

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YouTuber meet Kevin always great to get

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your take

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