The Fed **JUST** Said "Recession."
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Wow. The Federal Reserve just used the
Rword. Let's talk about what was just
said by the Federal Reserve, what it
potentially means for the December
meeting, and what data we just got this
morning. In fact, let's start with some
of the data that just came out this
morning. You've got the whole Cloudflare
outage. So, you know, X is having some
issues. Uh but this morning, we got a
report from ADP, our weekly jobless uh
report or weekly uh job running report.
It's a little different from the uh
Thursday unemployment claims report that
states and the federal government put
together. This instead is the ADP report
that says, "Hey, this is the 4-week
moving average of what we've seen in the
jobs market in October." And the ADP
report that we originally got for
October said that we gained about 40,000
jobs. A lot of those concentrated in the
Pacific. Well, the 4-week moving average
uh of jobs, which seems a little hard to
reconcile, but the 4-week moving average
of job gains
ending November 1st, so basically
October was minus 2,500.
Now, that's not good because it's
negative and it's certainly a lot lower
than the it's actually 42,000 that the
original ADP report showed, which is
suggestive that towards the end of
October, we started seeing more layoffs,
which we did. You know, we saw a lot of
corporate announcements, whether it was
Target or Amazon or otherwise. But it's
not like we're falling off a cliff. were
more appropriately close to this sort of
stall in the labor market. And this is
exactly what Chris Waller talks about.
Chris Waller just spoke and talked about
his opinion of what's going on in the
economy. And yes, the Rword comes up.
So, what we're going to do is we're
going to go through the most juicy parts
of his speech. We've got his transcript
right here. So he describes his outlook
for the US economy and he says that
right now there's plenty of data that
suggests we should be cutting. He says
even though we lost a lot of data like
are we actually going to get the October
jobs report from the federal government,
there's plenty of data to indicate the
labor market today is near stall speed.
This by the way totally reconciles with
the ADP report we just got minutes ago.
Inflation has also continued to show
relatively small effects so far from
tariffs, which is good. We expect some
bump from tariffs one time and then over
time we actually just expect GDP to
contract. That's generally consistent
with how tariffs work in the long term.
They weaken the economy.
Now what he also says is that despite
inflation for the last 5 years running
above their target, inflation
expectations are anchored. So people are
hopeful that inflation will indeed get
to 2% even though we're not getting
anywhere close to 2% right now. He also
suggests that the reason he supports a
cut is because of what he sees in the
data now and how it's different from
what he saw in 2022. Remember in 2022
when the Federal Reserve raised rates
like crazy and crushed the economy?
Well, I mean they crushed the overheated
aspects of the economy. We ended up
having a stock market selloff in 2022,
but we recovered really nicely with a
glorious Nike swoosh from the stock
market uh in 2022, basically all the way
through now. You know, this was a
prediction that I made back in 2022 that
we would have a Nike swoosh style
recovery, which we did, and it's been
remarkable. And we always thought it
would end in some kind of bout of
euphoria. The question is, are we in a
bout of euphoria right now that's
turning or is this still consistent with
this Nike swoosh? That's a little hard
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it out. Now, in 2022,
Waller tells us that he had more trust
in the beverage curve, the beverage
curve, than the Phillips curve back in
22. Why is it so important that he's
mentioning this? He says that in 2022 he
believed that because job vacancies were
so high on the beverage curve, the
beverage curve, however you want to say
it, that we would not end up seeing a
spike in layoffs that instead what you
would see is the curve would relax. So
you would see the beverage curve come
down and you would see job vacancies
come down. And sorry, I'm losing my
voice a little bit. Too much yelling
about
>> big pee pe. Uh yeah,
but anyway, this is exactly what
happened, mind you. So he was right to
cite that curve, but that actually
creates risks today. See, look at this
curve. This is the beaver curve. On the
left, you have job openings. And what he
said is that, hey, if we end up raising
rates, we'll be okay raising rates. We
don't actually think that the
unemployment rate is going to go up,
which is the bottom part of the line. We
don't think the unemployment rate is
going to go up. We actually just think
we're going to go from this very high
level of job openings and we're going to
see this level go down. And if you use a
level of this that actually looks at a
postco era, what you'll see is you've
had this very weird move down of job
openings right here. But you have not
yet uh and this is the sort of to come
part I think of where he's getting. you
have not yet seen the movement or
normalization over to the right. So this
magenta line has not occurred yet. We've
seen job openings go down, which is
exactly what he predicted in 2022. And
he was using this curve to predict that
he would be right in 2022 that we could
raise rates and you'll only see a
decline in openings. Well, now that
decline in openings has happened, what's
the next phase that this curve tells
you? the unemployment rate is going to
go up and you're going to normalize. And
that's what he's implying. He's hinting
that uhoh, if we get a normalization
there, we're going to see recession. But
he actually goes as far as using the
word recession. And I'm going to show
you that in just a moment. So he says
that the beaver curve combined with the
soft data, in other words, firms saying,
"I can't find workers like we we we we
like need to fill jobs. We have so many
job vacancies. We just need to fill
these." He predicted there wouldn't be a
big layoff surge in 2022 that would lead
to a rise in unemployment. And while
there were layoffs, there wasn't a big
spike in unemployment.
Now, he sees us in this no higher, no
fire equilibrium. And he sees that jobs
data has clearly weakened. He sees that
economic data is weakening. Look at Home
Depot this morning. Just look at Home
Depot stock. It's down like four or 5%.
Why? Because there's talk that consumers
are not spending on big ticket items and
that they're holding off on projects
that they might otherwise do if rates
were lower or the economy were stronger.
Home Depot stock now down 4%. Not a
great look into the consumer, which
usually is about 70% of GDP, maybe a
little less now because of AI spending,
but AI spending doesn't necessarily
translate to a lot of jobs. Anyway, in
the absence of more official data, but
with additional private sector forecasts
and surveys, it now appears to me that
economic activity is not accelerating
and therefore tracking more closely with
the weak employment data we've seen.
Remember, he says stall speed. He's not
saying we've fallen off a cliff, but
he's saying, hey, may maybe we should
cut rates before we fall off a cliff.
Because so far consumer sentiment data
and the longer trend of it over the last
6 months has been consistent with
recession. His word, while over the
decades the survey has not closely
correlated with short-term spending,
large persistent drops in consumer
sentiment over time have occurred
heading into recessions.
This is from the Fed. They're literally
talking about, "Oh my gosh, we could be
heading into a recession because this is
the kind of data you would expect
heading into a recession." He thinks
that a slowdown in consumer spending,
like what you just saw with Home Depot,
has huge implications for GDP growth.
And this downward move in the survey
since July about the last 5 to 6 months
since some of that data reflects June
and unexpectedly sharp low reading in
October is dower a dow view on
consumers. He thinks that the stock
market does not reflect the financial
conditions of most Americans and that
while the AI boom is great for propping
up GDP and stocks, it doesn't create
jobs or consumer spending. Now,
fortunately, because he believes tariff
effects have been smaller than expected
so far, little PP,
>> he thinks that inflation expectations
are anchored and therefore what we
should focus on is cutting to support
the labor market. He goes into his data
to support this and essentially wraps up
by saying we should be cutting 25 basis
points and there's going to be little
that's going to change my opinion on
that, not even the September jobs data
report, which is really backwardlooking
at this point. And so here you now have
the Federal Reserve blatantly saying the
quiet part out loud. Data so far is
consistent with us potentially walking
into a recession. Now what we're going
to do is we're going to go put together
our alpha report for the day because we
always do this before the market opens
up. So we're transitioning right away to
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over at mekevin.com. Thank you so much
for watching. I wish you the best of
luck out there. Stay safe. the Federal
Reserve starting to ring the alarm
bells. Maybe we ought to start paying
attention.
>> Why not advertise these things that you
told us here? I feel like nobody else
knows about this.
>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes.
>> Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you.
>> Kevin Praath there, financial analyst
and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great
to get your take.
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