Tesla's Bank Run | Crisis at Tesla.
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Tesla stock faces a crisis of confidence
much like a bank run which is almost
what we saw in 2023 in March and what
we're potentially seeing now with New
York Community Bank in this video I'm
going to provide potential Solutions
with a fep plan for Tesla as well as
what you might think as a Tesla investor
or investor in Tesla stock but I want
you to start by thinking about this who
do you think gets sued more doctors who
are nice or doctors who are arrogant it
should be obvious but it might not be
something you've considered before see
even if you're wrong people have
confidence in people they
like so with doctors the reality is nice
doctors even if they're wrong tend to
get sued way less for medical
malpractice than arrogant doctors who
are wrong and the same thing that's true
with doctors getting sued is true with
with banks and Bank runs and with stocks
like Tesla see Bank runs are simply a
crisis of confidence New York Community
Bank went down as much as 14% today they
got hit with their first lawsuit and
Moody downgraded the bank yet the stock
moved positive before the end of the day
the company laid out extremely clear
expectations and plans not only did they
replace their executive chairperson and
said look here's the reality we cover
our bank balances our unsecured cash
balances by 1.6x here are the loans we
have here's exactly how we're going to
cover all of the cash balances we have
so people don't have to be worried about
a bank run we are not going to cut our
dividend instead what we're going to do
is we're going to offload mortgages and
RV loans and we're going to sell assets
as we need to to make sure we can cover
our bills and if we need to raise
Capital we will do that they also
reiterated that there's been virtually
no deposit outflow and that's probably
backed up by the fact that we kind of
have this like Universal guarantee now
from the FDIC that people won't lose
their deposits at Banks which is
essentially what came out of the banking
crisis last year but regardless the
point is the company provided a very
clear plan and even if there is doubt
which there is trust me I look at New
York Community Bank and I'm like I don't
think your RV loans or your mortgages or
your multif family loans are worth what
you think they're worth I dispute that
with the bank I think the bank's assets
are probably worth less but the bank
gave a plan and so notice how they can
be wrong I might be right they might be
wrong but they gave a plan and the plan
provided confidence new person new plan
changes think for a moment about how
this affects investor confidence in a
bank people think that okay maybe now
we're at a bottom maybe this plan is
going to work there's hope there's a
chance I'll give you some examples here
so we could see how the bank run that
occurs at Banks is really no different
from the crisis of confidence that's
occurring at Tesla consider for a moment
Bob chac takes over at Disney during
covid for a couple years what happens we
start seeing the failure of Disney with
this fear that Disney's mismanaging
their relationship with Ronda santis in
Florida potentially mismanaging
expectations around the company's brand
woke anti-woke this that whatever what
happens we remove Bob chac from the
executive position and bring back
somebody who did great things for Disney
Bob Iger whether or not you agree with
that doesn't matter the point is the
company did better then than it was
doing now and so we went back to a
period of confidence Ence consider the
executives at NAS they provided terrible
numbers really bad
numbers and I'm not very confident in
the numbers I got about the future but
they made the argument that q1 might be
the bottom q1 might be the bottom what
happens when they suggest q1 might be
the bottom the Stock's up 16.9% on the
day investors feared that CVS you know
the local drug store investors feared
that CVS would have substantially higher
medical costs due to the insurance
warning they gave but they said they've
managed the risks the risk gone away or
went away and the stock went up because
we provided confidence Baba fell 6%
today about it was like
5.9 because they suggested they were in
a challenging market and provided no
hope when there was no hope no plan no
confidence the stock fell 6%
snap beat earnings but their loss
2.3x on guide and no plan on how they're
ever actually going to go long run
profitable what happens stock down paler
beats the stock goes up not only 30% on
one day but what happens the next day
they're up another 7.9% the Stock's now
at
$23.60 I opened a position on this in
about the 18s and people like Kevin
Kevin that that seems high for pound
here I'm like here's my fundamental
analysis here's why I think the stock
will do well what do we get from the
company beats with excited
guidance STS way
up guidance is critical because it
instills confidence in the vision people
have to have hope whether you think back
to 2008 the hell of a recession we were
going through whether you were a
Democrat or Republican the reality is
people had hope that there would be
change now obviously we can argue the
changes and what was correct politically
but it doesn't matter people vote on
hope that's why today Donald Trump is
doing so well in the polls because
people hope that things will be
different that inflation will go away
that prices will come down and the
reality is prices aren't going to come
down unless we're in a deep dark
recession joean PO says the same thing
so as Finance folks we know that but
people have the hope that things will
just feel better if we just change who's
in office a lot of people do okay and
that's just based on polling today when
you match up Trump versus Biden most of
the polls suggest Donald Trump would win
right that's today things will be
different then maybe but the point
is in the stock market Securities are
sold not bought literally the Security
and Exchange Commission told me that
there's a reason why the Securities and
Exchange Commission the SEC suggests we
stand for proper
disclosure and marketing rules they're
not telling you if an investment is good
or bad
they want to make sure that companies
that give hope give balanced hope hey
like you could be hopeful but are you
providing balance right that's the point
of the SEC to make sure that there's
proper disclosure they're not telling
you what's going to be a good investment
but think about that for a moment when
people hear me say that they're like
Kevin Kevin what do what do you mean
Securities are sold not bought I mean
like there's a buyer and a seller yes
that's a different kind of selling see
there's buying something so I'm going to
buy this cup now I have the cup I'm
going to sell the cup now I no longer
have the cup okay it's just like I'm
going to buy or sell a Tesla I buy the
Tesla I have the car I sell the Tesla I
don't have the car but there's a
different kind of selling and it's
called sales so what if now I'm the
broker for this mug hey did you know you
could get this mug at lego.com they've
got about four different varieties in it
and this cup while you might not be able
to tell from where you are but it holds
a large amount of coffee so I have to
get up one less time every single day to
get my energy intake from coffee so I
can remain more productive in the office
more productivity in the office every
single day probably 10x is the value of
this cup this cup is an investment it is
not a cup it is a money
printer okay that's sales now you might
think ah sales sales is sleazy sales is
trying to like manipulate me and
convince me really what I said is a real
reality of efficiency or productivity
sales is actually simply
informing somebody of potential value
and sales is not supposed to be hey
here's a gun buy this okay that's
or lying or forcing sales is
actually providing value and information
consider this when the CEO of Nvidia
says we are entering a new era of
computing and not only are we entering a
new era of Computing where we're going
to essentially rebuild all a uh server
Stacks uh with an AI mindset but we have
a moat called infiniband and we will
wire your entire server Network for you
we will sell you the cabling we will
sell you the switches we will sell you
the gpus we will sell you the
stack that provides hope a plan and then
what do we see earnings after earnings
after earnings Nvidia executes on the
plan they suggested
that builds confidence that what they're
saying is not fugazi AMD says hey we
don't have infin ban but you know what
we don't need infin ban because we're
going to work with broadcom and Cisco
and create the
ultimate ethernet Consortium which is
your direct competitor to infiniband and
we are going to be able to use our
products in existing environments and
new environments why saturate yourself
or bog yourself down into sort of the
ecosystem that is infiniband when you
could use ours which is faster and
cheaper to deploy and it's just as good
or better in their own argument whatever
you provide value on the metrics where
you think you out compete right and then
that's on the end user to defi decide so
why is it then that Tesla stock is down
for the last three years essentially I
mean if you take today and go back three
years you're negative you've been on a
downtrend for essentially the past 3
years it's basically flat over the three
years is the nice way to put it is is
this just a bad stock is is it over is
this company bad well in my opinion it
has a lot and everything to do with
allocation specifically institutional
allocation institutional allocation to
Tesla is the lowest out of magnificent
seven and of those who do allocate Tesla
is the lowest within their positions
it's very rare to have somebody have a
large allocation to Tesla and it makes
sense because those who do are actually
making a contrarian bet why sell a fund
That's Heavy in Tesla if that's a hard
sale to make all you have to do today is
go hey look at Nvidia and Eli Lil these
companies are killing it want to invest
in my
fund easy sale the Stock's been up
confident product confident executive
staff clear plan hope communication sky
is the
limit what do we have with Tesla well
virtually the opposite consider this for
a moment you have a who has been alleged
by a judge who in my opinion unfairly
but did essentially Rob Elon Musk of a
$55 billion pay plan that was approved
by over 80% of shareholders which was
the majority of the non-majority
shareholders that was wording from the
lawsuit don't worry about that being
confusing the point is a judge suggested
that Elon Musk was distracted by other
Ventures like SpaceX and Twitter and
maybe this wasn't actually fairly
disclosed to shareholders you have a CEO
who's accused of doing party drugs with
with board members who contributed to a
stock comp plan's creation you have a
company that responds to press inqueries
with a poop emoji you have the stock
performance that's not helping you and
you have no guidance in fact you've just
removed guidance you lost your CFO wait
a minute why did the C CFO Leave Nobody
Knows Why the CFO left people speculate
well speculation creates uncertainty
uncertainty is scary uncertainty means
fear uncertainty means I don't know I
don't have an answer I I I want to be
away from this I don't feel happy
here you have a company that provides
not only no guidance on sales now which
is odd because they always do so you're
actually going the opposite direction
you're going from giving guidance to
giving no guidance but there's no
guidance on margin on vehicles on
vehicle road map their ideas there
speculation but how is a fund manager
supposed to sell a fund with an
allocation to Tesla stock when you have
all of the when you basically have the
company unsell itself see advertising
isn't just for the car it's selling
sentiment it's selling positive emotion
consider Coca-Cola it sells a brand it
doesn't tell you swipe up link down
below buy cocacola it sells you a
Feeling Good Feeling happiness it's kind
of like when I talk about hey do you
want to become a millionaire you want to
go zero to millionaire in real estate
I've got a course for that Meek
heaven.com what would it be like if you
were Financial
free imagine being financially free and
how real estate could get you to that
the point is that's one way to sell
emotion Tesla's not really doing that in
fact the emotion that Tesla has
consistently advertised towards or I
should say branded towards has been the
25 to 45y old guy but that audience is
already convinced how many
moms how many moms think about this
realize that the safest vehicle they
could put their child in when they take
their kids to to school or dads who take
their kids to school whatever how many
of those parents realize that the safest
vehicle that child could be in is a
Tesla when I take my family somewhere I
think to myself Lauren we need to take
the Tesla and not the Sienna because
it's safer we're going to not only have
a co-pilot and FSD but the vehicle
itself might perform better in a
crash what do you get when you bank at
JP Morgan during a banking
crisis you get at least hope that JP
Morgan's going to get bailed out by the
Federal Reserve that your FSD is better
that your safety is better right JP
Morgan during a banking crisis is
literally the mop they go around and mop
up other Banks J Powell calls JP Morgan
yo can y'all buy First
Republic and we'll back stop 85% of
their assets so if you lose money commit
to a certain percentage of loss we'll
back stop the rest tax tax payers are
backing it but the point is that
instills confidence in a JP Morgan so
you don't have a bank run a JP
Morgan so what do you have a Tesla a
confidence crisis everything that I've
just described tells you why the stock
has been down for the last 3 years this
is a crisis of confidence notice that
none of the reasons has anything to do
with interest
rates yes interest rates matter but you
can provide confidence around interest
rates let's compare instead though what
we've
gotten Hey look it's AI day we've got a
dojo supercomputer it's going to be a
huge opportunity so then what do you get
analysts like folks over in Morgan
Stanley okay this bumps the stock 40
bucks There's real pop you know there's
real potential in Dojo maybe it'll be
like Amazon that sells merchandise for
basically a break even but wow all of a
sudden they make a ton of money off of
AWS maybe they'll be an AWS like
competitor okay there's potential here
the smart engineers at Tesla give us
hope that the company is going to
generate a lot of profit in the future
so what do we get on with Elon Musk on
the last earnings
call yeah uh Dojo is a long shot but
it's a long shot worth taking but it's
not very high
probability those were his words well I
can't quantify that as a fund manager I
can't quantify that I look at go bro
something I thought had hope you just
took away you did the opposite you
didn't provide hope and guidance you
provided UNH
hope it's bad now I'm kind of like all
right I I mean I never underwrote Dojo
myself but in terms of actually
providing Share value I just underwrite
uh Tesla from an FSD and and vehicle
point of view and an energy point of
view uh but but other people do Morgan
Stanley's probably like just gave all
this value to dojo and you just pooped
on it you took all my hope away how do
you sell it then now you now the Morgan
Stanley guy looks like a fool because
Elon flipped let's do another example
hey um so we're building uh a factory in
Mexico okay hell yeah all right average
hourly wage over there is three bucks.
50 even if we bump the wages 20% over
there our cost of manufacturing in
Mexico are still going to be half of our
cost of manufacturing in California it's
close to the American Border we've got a
free trade agreement with Mexico we are
going to pump margins with the Mexico
Giga facility two earnings calls later
yeah so we're going to hold off on
breaking ground in Mexico because there
might be a
session Tesla has provided us nothing
but UNH hope that is not a diss on the
people who work at Tesla it is not
suggesting that it's time to sell Tesla
in fact I think I think it's a gift that
Tesla stock has been where it is
but this is a a gift that has a lot of
thorns and right now everybody's been
holding the Thorns they're like yeah
it's a nice Rose man but my hands are
bleeding my financial future by being an
investor in Tesla looks less certain
than if I had just invested in any other
stock NASDAQ S&P 500 Nvidia it doesn't
matter pick almost any other stock
Tesla's the worst performing stock in
the S&P 500 you could have basically
year to dat you could have basically
picked any of the other 499 companies
and done better because you have UNH
hope at Tesla now don't get me wrong
there is a point of view of arguing well
I mean you know the real investors can
see through all this and they can hold
through this you know Elon said don't be
on margin so we going to hold strong and
hold through it and eventually Tesla who
knows might be a$1 thousand stock
because it proves
itself rather than like talking about
how it's going to prove itself but in
the meantime you lost a lot of people
and you probably made it harder on
yourself because the harder it is to
sell the stock that is encourage people
to have owner ship in the company the
harder it also is for people to pitch
the car see people pitch the vehicle
when they're Tesla stock goes up in my
opinion more than when their Tesla stock
is in the toilet there's nothing but bad
news about Tesla in fact then they
recoil they do the opposite think about
that for a moment you have a Tesla you
drive through uh or or you drive up to
someone a friend that you know maybe uh
maybe uh supports Biden and uh and you
have to say yeah yeah I bought that
before all the stuff happened with on
you know it's it's a great car but I
didn't invest in the company because of
the CEO or the stock cuz both of those
feel like they're
downhill well what confidence is that
Inspire the other person to buy the car
think about when Tesla was was going up
and there was clear guidance and there
was a road map people like I've invested
in the I bought the car the car is so
amazing I bought the stock elon's a
Visionary you should buy the car
too
advertising Tesla and providing a road
mapap for Tesla is much more than just
trying to appease fund managers it's
it's helping fund managers create hope
and a guide for their clients and give
their clients a vision and an aspiration
of what the stock could be it's having
other vehicle owners proud of the
vehicle that they invested in they chose
a Tesla because they invested in that
brand people buy a Toyota because they
want the reliability and nobody can
really diss that that is a great
decision you want one of the most
reliable cars ever you buy a
Toyota there's no PR department telling
us that all these recalls people hear
about at Tesla are just software updates
and even if they are just software
updates why are there those problems in
the first place how does that compare to
how many other recalls car makers have
that you have to go to a shitty service
center for the point is there is a
disconnect in communication and in Hope
and guidance that's why Tesla has been
suffering every part of the brand has
been damaged
by a lack of communication or by bad
communication that does not make Elon a
bad person that does not make the
company a bad company that does not make
Tesla stock a bad investment but
hopefully it wakes the executives at
Tesla up a little bit
to everything Kevin said is right and
I'm not trying to Pat myself in the back
I'm just saying we need to change that's
it that's all you need and here are five
steps I'm going to try to spoon feed it
to make it simple here are five things
that Tesla can do right now with very
very little effort to finally provide
hope to the company and to the brand
again number one step number one a video
PR team a video PR team known as from
the office of Elon Musk and it doesn't
have to be Elon it simply has to be
somebody who can present on camera
respond to allegations on behalf of
Tesla and simplify the vision of Tesla
in the face of criticism a response is
better than no response because at this
point we've seen what no response or few
or little responses have done little
communication or poop emoji responses
have led the mainstream media to go wild
with speculation and opinions and it's
unhealthy for the brand of the company
so a simple from the desk of Elon Musk
from the desk of the executive of Tesla
whatever a video PR team it's not that
hard it wouldn't cost a lot of money
number two a safety PR team a team that
says look here's a Tesla that was
involved in a vehicle because who knows
the fault of another driver this that or
whatever the injuries the individual
sustained were XYZ which had this been
potentially a different vehicle the
injuries could have been a lot worse why
were they better in the Tesla well
here's why we have pre-tensioners in the
seat belts we have software updates that
update the response time of uh of the
automated breaking system from X
milliseconds to Y milliseconds here's
exactly what kind of change we've
implemented here are 20 different bullet
points as to why the changes we're
making in safety made this person have
less injuries than they could have had
you don't even have to bag on the
competition just talk about and explain
what the company is doing to make sure
that people survive crashes and are less
injured because crashes are going to
happen promote that this is what I
talked at uh Tesla's uh investor day
about to Elon why don't we tell people
about these things safety is one of the
most important things and you've got a
huge Competitive Edge here promote your
wins number three provide a clear
pricing road map people don't have
confidence in the Tesla of a uh in the
price of a Tesla right now so fix it see
Nas for example lowers its revenues but
maintains margin in fact it's expanding
margin it's basically like look you know
we're we're in a transition right now
we're just going to choose to
manufacture less and we're going to
maintain margins I'm not saying Tesla
should do that Nas uses contract
manufacturing Tesla has his own
manufacturing so you're better off
manufacturing than not okay even though
Tesla's talking about layoffs today but
the point is when there's no confidence
in the road map for price it's very
difficult for people to make the
commitment to invest in a Tesla and for
investors to feel confident that we're
going in the right direction in fact the
amount of people that were com
that oh look the model y price increased
1,000 bucks or whatever in Europe the
amount of people commenting on the
internet going o must be a demand thing
bro Tesla shut down Giga Berlin for a
week actually two
weeks probably a supply constraint with
no change in demand but again these are
things that rather than having
speculation about which it is we have no
communication from
teson it's okay to be wrong but it's not
not okay to be silent and so when people
buy a Tesla now they're like oh price is
going to go down 5K after I buy it so
I'm going to lose the value as I drive
off the lot then the price will go down
so I'll lose even more value there's no
confidence in price because there's no
pricing road map how do you solve that
well you link the price of the car to
interest rates it's very
simple every time the Federal Reserve
lowers rates 25 basis points we are
going to raise the cost of a Tesla
$1,000 as an example or $500 okay so
rates come down let's say uh eight times
uh or 2% we're going to raise the cost
of the vehicle 8 times $500 let's say
that's
$4,000 if interest rates go up another
25 basis points we're cutting 500 bucks
again every 25 BP equals $500 it'd be a
very simple road map because now you
make it clear that what happens with
vehicle demand is in part out of your
control but you will have you have a
formulaic response to it as interest
rates come down we can raise the price
and that can go into margin as if
interest rates go up more the price is
going to go down it's very
simple that would provide a road map and
confidence another example and and I'm
not saying all of these need to be done
these are just ideas right I'm just
spitballing ideas here but lower the
cost of FSD there's no confidence in the
price of full self-driving Elon says the
value will increase over time but the
market disagrees the market values FSD
at about $3,000 look at the used vehicle
Market used Teslas with FSD sell for
about $3,000 more than use Teslas
without FSD lower the cost in line with
the free market when you lower the cost
in line with the free market you can
actually provide confidence in pricing
because you substantiate it if some if
you you go and want to buy a million
dooll
home don't you want to know that other
similar homes are also selling for $1
million or would you rather buy buy a
$1.2 million home like a $112,000 FSD
package that's actually in a $300,000
neighborhood oh well maybe the free
market just doesn't
know doesn't instill a lot of
confidence number five provide a clear
road map for margin expectations and
what investor relations types and
financial analyst should actually be
expecting if you don't give us your
guide on margin then how's anybody
supposed to make projections and it
doesn't have to be perfect you just have
to give something I you could go look
look hey the reality is for us to get to
our long-term Vision we're not going to
be at 30% margin we're expecting to
settle out at 24% margin or 22% margin I
don't really care what the reality is
but give an expectation because at least
it suggests you've thought about it and
you have a goal right now it just sort
of feels goalless lack of confidence
maybe you could even have a road to
Tesla event 2024 where you crystallize
the product road map you reiterate the
$25,000 vehicle some of the specs of the
vehicle is a twood door is a four-door
what's the range of the battery going to
be are you going to get into delivery
and passenger vans even if that's just a
long-term goal what do you think the
margin is going to be on an Optimus
robot when it comes out it provides a
lot of value maybe when it starts
unloading boxes from a factory maybe
that's worth 40 Grand on Amazon and
maybe we can sell that thing at a 40%
margin provides some hope some path same
thing for Dojo so look I want to be
clear I'm long-term optimistic on Tesla
but a lot of the pain at Tesla could be
avoided frankly with
management because right now it's sort
of like just let us do our things who
cares about the stock market but who
cares about the stock market is very
shortsighted because that means you
don't really care about the people who
are investing in your car in your brand
and you're in your stock and the reality
is without people wanting to invest in
your car brand or stock Tesla would be
no Tesla you could have the best product
ever but if nobody wants it it doesn't
matter sales is what's missing at the
Tesla I think this is one of the reasons
you had so much success at Apple you put
a was with the
jobs sales Vision with the Innovation
it's not one it's both why not advertise
these things that you told us here I
feel like nobody else knows about this
we'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes congratulations man you
have done so much people love you people
look up to you Kevin P there financial
analyst and you about meet Kevin always
wait to get your
take
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