How Much Will the iPhone Fold Cost?

to maybe we should just rant again. We

got to talk about this trifold again.

And we're talking about it because

Samsung did finally announce the US

price and availability of the Samsung

Galaxy Trifold.

>> Mhm.

>> I don't know if I remember what our

guesses were for it. We were kind of

thinking like oh

>> $1,000 aside or something like that,

>> which is not that far off,

>> right? Cuz like a flagship's a,000 and

then like an a folding flagship is is

like

>> 1,800 2,000ish. So, the US price for the

Trifold is $2,899

and it's available only from Samsung.

It's not going to be in carrier stores

or anything like that. You just got to

go to samsung.com or get it straight

from Samsung

store.

>> Yeah.

>> Uh $966 per fold.

>> It's three flagships.

>> Here's the thing. I really like this

phone. Um, but as many people have

pointed out, there are so many things

you can get for $2,899. And I will push

back on the people saying you could just

get a phone and a tablet. Well, duh.

That's the point. The Trifold is for the

people who don't want two devices. They

want it all in one device. So, I I'm

seeing that. And I think it's a very

usable phone with just the one. I don't

use it as often as a two, but then wide

open with three. It's an awesome tablet.

I've really liked it.

>> I think you can't even use it as a two.

Well, it's not supposed to. The Huawei

you can use as a two. It gets kind of

mad.

>> Um,

>> and then you fold it wide open and it's

the three and it's like this is the

greatest thing ever invented. But $2,899

is a lot of money. Obviously, for tax,

you got to ship it.

>> Uh, would you get a trifold for $2,899?

No.

>> No.

>> You have to be in the small, very picky

group who really wants this phone to

spend that much on it. I do think the

price is kind of an intentional barrier.

Uh, and it got a lot of people also

thinking about how much is the iPhone

fold going to cost because it's not

going to be a trifold. It's just going

to be a regular fold competing against

all the other 15 to $1,900 folds. Are

they going to price it over all of those

or right in the middle?

>> I'm interested, but I don't think this

has any context or is relevant to what

the iPhone Fold is going to cost. It's

such a different phone in every aspect.

>> Yeah, the iPhone Fold is going to be

more similar to the original Pixel Fold,

like shorter passport style. Um there's

a strong rumor that Samsung is actually

working on a competitor fold that is

shorter um to compete more direct

and they're going to come out before

probably

>> which would mean Samsung would have like

four foldable phones which is almost as

many phones as their regular phone.

>> They're literally like the leader in

folding phones and then Apple still

makes the first one. We should copy

that.

>> That's crazy. Well, kind of it would be

the same thing as when they made the

Galaxy they announced the Galaxy S25

Edge before the iPhone Air.

>> Yeah, cuz they knew it was coming.

>> Yeah, they knew it was coming and they

got ahead of it and made the thing.

>> And I could see them also doing that and

beating the iPhone Fold to this form

factor.

>> True.

>> It is interest. I just think it's

relevant because Samsung, this is a real

phone that Samsung's going to sell. It's

like raised the ceiling for a price that

you can pay on a phone. And before this,

if you asked me what might Apple charge

for their fold, I would have said

probably right around $18.99.

>> 1999.

>> But now that this exists, I feel like

it's going to be over 2,000.

>> Yeah, I said my guess is $21.99. It's my

guess.

>> Really?

>> That seems very possible.

>> Mhm.

>> That that seems possible.

>> The trifold to me is more in line with

when Apple sold the Vision Pro.

>> It's like they don't expect people to

buy it. So, I feel like when Apple Yeah.

releases the Fold, they're actually

they're actually gonna want people to

buy it. So, I don't know if it's gonna

be as

>> highriced. I bet the margins on the

trifold are not great. And I bet they

don't want to sell a whole ton of them.

They want to be seen as leaders in the

space and like generate the hype. This

is probably selling more regular folds

>> just because people are like, "Wow,

that's crazy, but it is pretty cool. I'm

just going to buy the

>> Do you guys think that the iPhone Fold

is going to be able to run iPad apps?

>> That is a whole another question. Uh,

>> is it going to run iOS or iPad OS? Like,

how innovative is Apple going to get

with the Fold? I think

>> God, wow.

>> I think or what do I want?

>> Well, I definitely want iPad OS when

it's unfolded. I want all the things,

but it's it's only going to be we're

thinking like an 8 in screen, like an

iPad mini size. I guess that's fine.

>> What is the size of the iPad mini

screen? Seven and change.

>> So it'll be bigger. Roughly the same.

Yeah.

>> And then they can run iPad OS.

>> They can run iPad OS. But then the thing

is when you close it, does it switch OS?

No way. It's got to be like,

>> isn't iPad OS just iOS but with some

like tweaks?

>> Yeah. But all the window management

stuff that's going on, all of the

multitasking stuff, I don't picture them

allowing you to use that on the smaller

folded closed. Okay.

>> So, how do you manage that?

>> It's separate.

>> Yeah. Yeah. You know how like on the

fold uh you can have like your home

screen layout on the front separate than

the inside. I don't think that's

>> you got the task bar on Android now when

you open the foldable phone you've got

like the little taskbar on the bottom

that's not when you close it.

>> That's true.

>> So they could do that.

>> Yeah.

>> So a couple So that's kind of like

managed like you open the phone cuz I

really like the Pixel fold thing where

it was all continuity all the time. your

home screen setup when you change it on

the close screen when you open it, that

would just be your two screens the way

you set them up on the closed screen.

>> And then any app that you'd used on the

closed screen, you open it up, it would

continue using it on the it would just

go back and forth. Everything would stay

on.

>> I liked that.

>> I wonder if that's how Apple would do

it. You know, they should just make a

merged OS. They can call it the same

thing forever. They could just call it

OSX, you know, like X. It's a perfect

name to be used forever for all of their

Oh, I have terrible news. I forgot.

>> That's kind of the direction that Google

is going with an Android with the Pixel

stuff, though. It's like the front

screen and the inside screen are just

one continuous like

>> operating system thing. I think that

plays in their favor because there

aren't a lot of Android tablet apps.

>> Apple does not have that problem. Apple

has a lot of iPad apps. So, they could

just separate the two completely and

have the front screen do iPhone, middle

or inside screen do iPad. I'm completely

just coming out of my ass here. So,

>> there's so many questions that I have

because of that. Like, if I have an app

installed that's an iPad app and I open

it with the screen open, obviously it

opens the iPad version. If I close it

and have the smaller screen, is that

gone?

>> Yeah. It's just like

>> it's gone on using an iPhone now. So it

just feels like I think at this point it

feels like two different

>> devices. I don't think they want I think

they want it to feel as

>> fluid as possible. Like all the all the

early folds I think the idea was you

would expand your screen like you go

from having one screen you're texting

somebody I got to flip to the big screen

you open it now it's texting on the big

screen and it feels continuous and and

that was like

>> but you could still do that particular

thing with iPhone and iPad OS. you know,

like some of the apps are going to be

continuous, but I think in general they

want it to be, and this is again me just

completely theorizing, I think they want

it to be two different experiences. You

use the iPhone part of it, and then when

you want to do something a little bit

more powerful that requires an iPad app,

you open it up.

>> I don't think they like that in one

singular device, different experiences.

I don't think they're going to the more

you talk about this, the more I think

there's no shot they do it.

>> Multiple experience in one device. It's

a phone. It's an iPod. It's a

communication.

I thought they loved that. I thought

they loved that.

>> I just think that Well, I guess there's

two things. Apple sells to people who

want the simplicity of experience, but

also people buying a $2,000 something

folding phone are not the usual iPhone

customer. Maybe those people are cool

with having a little more flexibility or

customization.

>> Flexibility.

>> Cool. Like that.

>> Flexibility. Yeah. So, I I don't know. I

I kind of lean towards Andrew. Like, I

think they probably want it to be as

simple and fluid as possible. Open,

close, big, small. Like the same thing,

just big or small.

>> That's the same as Android, though. Like

you're you're just doing what the Fold

already does, what the Pixel Fold

already does.

>> Yeah.

>> I don't think Apple would do that,

personally.

>> Well, yeah, because they just do the

thing that Android does, but it's iOS.

>> Yeah, but now they also have iPad OS.

That's what I'm saying. Like Android

doesn't have that to fall back on. I

think that Apple generally does a good

job of knowing what to do with the new

stuff. like Android and all the Android

manufacturers tend to give you stuff

before they know what to do with it.

Although Apple did not do that with the

Vision Pro. Uh but with a lot of their

stuff, you know, they wait longer, but

then when they actually ship it, they're

like, "Look at all these useful things

you can do that that we like tested and

deployed and they all work with your

current ecosystem and whatever." I feel

like they're probably going to have

special use cases for the foldable phone

cuz otherwise I I don't know. Most

iPhone users that I talk to are like, "I

don't care about foldable. Why would I

want a foldable phone?"

>> Yeah, there's got to be something some

reason that you get the foldable. Like

something that you can do on the

foldable that you can't do on the

regular iPhone. Bigger screen is is one

thing obviously, but I want I want

productiv I want something that that

there can be a commercial about or some

use case or demo of like that's why I

want the phone

>> like iPad OS apps.

>> You want Final Cut Pro on that inside

screen.

>> That's what I want.

>> Someone's going to do that. Someone's

going to do that. Amen.

>> Yeah. Wait, literally Final Cut Pro for

iPad. So, can you Jesus,

>> that's what I Well, that's immediately

what I thought.

>> That's what I said.

>> We can't.

>> It is touch oriented. It's touch first.

>> Yeah, it's Final Cut for iPad now.

>> I'm just saying.

>> Damn.

>> You should edit the main channel video.

>> Put your finger on an 8 in screen. Yeah.

>> Now that I'm picturing Final Cut Pro in

my pocket, I don't think I don't want it

anymore.

>> I don't think that's a good idea.

>> I just don't see them releasing this

product and being like, it's the same

thing that's already out, just iPhone

now. Oh, I that's exactly how I see them

doing it. Oh, yeah. Well, they don't say

that. They go all day battery life.

>> Although, when the iPad first came out,

it was just iPhone but bigger.

>> Yeah.

>> Like literally, it was horrible.

>> It was literally just iPhone bigger.

>> Yeah. Computer but smaller. I feel like

>> Yeah, cuz it's a lot.

>> It's It went from like why are these

icons so far apart? Why does this look

like my And you open an iPhone app and

it would just go it would be a huge

version of it. And they've evolved much

since then, but now they could be in a

similar spot where they don't exactly

know which direction to go. Do they lean

more computer? Do they lean more

simplicity? What if we just give them

iPhone but bigger and then see what

people start doing with it and asking

for and then

>> and then go from there?

>> For a very long time, they were very

focused on selling you three separate

devices and now there's the rumors of

the MacBook with the touchcreen coming

out. Crazy. And I just and then also the

iPad. They have actually souped up to be

like a workable computer now with iPad

OS uh whatever it is 26. I'm just

picturing like ven diagrams slowly

coming across

>> slowly emerging. Yeah. Do you want the

phone that's also an iPad, the iPad

that's also a laptop, or the laptop

that's also a phone?

>> What was the trivia question the other

day? Pad phone or phone pad?

>> It does make sense. Vision Pro is all

the things.

>> Strapped to your face. Strapped to your

face.

>> 5 pounds.

>> I have a question for you guys. Okay.

>> Do you want a touchcreen MacBook Pro?

>> Yes.

>> You're using a MacBook Pro. You do want

a touch screen.

>> Yeah. I like I like touchscreen laptops,

weirdly.

>> Mariah, you have a MacBook Pro.

>> I think it's fun.

>> Touchcreen is fun. Yeah.

>> I used to have like a Dell XPS that was

like the 4K touchcreen and it was just

>> I like would never practically use it,

but I think it's a novelty.

>> I don't know how much extra I would pay

for it, but there are times like

literally sitting in the pod here where

I'd like to just like take my finger and

scroll on the outline.

>> That's the thing. I think people think

completely like, "Oh, I'm just going to

be using it as a tablet and just tapping

the screen and seeing it wobble and

yeah, it's not for that. It's just for

like three times you're sitting on the

couch and you just want to scroll with

your thumb really quickly."

>> In Photoshop, being able to like

>> turn things, rotate things, zoom in.

It's very helpful. I used to love that

on my I mean, it look pencil support

they should just do on the on the

trackpad.

>> The trackpad's so massive they can

easily turn into a drawing tablet. They

should have done that 10 years ago. Are

we just reverse engineering the two in

one laptop or the laptop completely

full? How dare you?

>> I think it's a full circle. No, nobody

wants Don't you Nobody wants that.

>> That was a weird era and I I do remember

a lot of those things.

>> Lenovo Yoga.

>> My mom still has one and they do the

job.

>> All of my uh Bitcoin that I that I mined

in 2012 is on a Lenovo Yoga book 9

orange clementine orange color.

Something's telling me you have like

5,000 Bitcoin on

>> back when it was worth 45 cents. Yeah,

>> it was worth like a penny.

>> It was like very low.

>> I am I guess while we're on the topic, I

am not sure that I want a touchcreen

MacBook Pro. I've never really wanted to

use a touchcreen on laptops I've had in

the past that have touchcreens. Um it

really is like the once in a while

scroll or hit a button thing and I

wouldn't pay extra for that. I would be

very happy to not have that and save

money. I already have to clean my

MacBook display all the time, so I'm

okay with

>> I just don't think it's that new

technology that it would raise the price

that much anymore. Like, we've had these

for a decade now. Like, they could just

do it and it'll be fine.

>> Well, I think isn't the rumor it's

supposed to be like an OLED touch

screen. Like, it's going to be a brand

new display technology. This really,

really cool display. And also, it's the

first touch.

>> And also, it's Apple selling it. So,

they're going to charge more for

>> Hell yeah.

>> Yeah. Come on.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> You think

>> I mean storage and RAM is cost that much

to Apple? Yeah. If you look at the

control center on Mac OS now, it looks

like it's meant to be touched. It looks

just like the iPad. So, at this point,

it doesn't seem like they have that much

work to do to get to a touchcreen

laptop. I just don't love the wobble and

the fingerprints and the weird

inconsistent stuff going on. So, I'm not

thrilled about it, but I'll I'll watch

and learn and see if they they have any

features or interesting things I'm

interested in. I have a feeling I have a

feeling I'm just going to want the new

OLED

>> and I'm going to get it

>> and then it happens to be a touchcreen

and I'm probably not going to

>> What if it's OLED plus anti-glare?

>> I'm going to be so happy. But please

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