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so we know consumers make up over

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two-thirds of the economy and one of the

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things I love paying attention to is

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what's happening at the edges and the

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fringes what's happening with poor

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spending and what's happening with

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richer spending because it gives us an

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idea of where are people starting to cut

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back and there are two areas we're

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starting to see cutbacks where

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ordinarily you don't want to see them to

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keep a good boom bull market going and

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in this case we're going to look

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specifically at corporations and richer

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household spending so let's jump in with

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corporations then richer household

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spending and then we're going to talk

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about a CEO that lashes out about what's

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going on in the market right now now

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this is also related to the spending

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sectors I'm talking about but I haven't

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seen a CEO in my opinion in an earnings

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call a professional earnings call lash

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out the way this one does usually CEOs

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are really respectful and uh you know

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they they don't trash their competitors

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uh all all bets were off this time

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around uh and uh you're gonna see a

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little bit of entertainment in an

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earnings call which is usually the

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opposite of what you would expect to get

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in an earnings call but first let's

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understand what Barons thinks is

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happening in terms of corporate spending

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take a look at this here's a piece on

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company c a Slowdown ahead and this

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figure tells the story so let's take a

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look at the story that Barons is

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suggesting so first companies are

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tapping the brakes on Capital spending

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as they anticipate cooling demand that's

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not great they are conserving cash as

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they prepare for a tougher economic

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environment that might be prudent on

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their part and good news for

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shareholders after all good news for

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shareholders when a corporation Cuts

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back you temporarily see a boost to

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operating profits right but what if

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they're cutting the potential

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investments in their business that

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actually let them continue to seek

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growth this is actually a very important

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thing to consider when you're investing

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in stocks is wait a minute it's

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fantastic that the company I'm investing

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in is cutting their SG a expenses

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they're selling General and

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administrative expenses but if they're

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cutting selling are we potentially

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robbing from the future growth of the

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company to have a higher margin now

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during potentially a weaker time and

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often the answer is yes now in many

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cases there are also companies that just

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take advantage of the layoff cycle of a

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recessionary environment to get rid of

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poor performers this is very normal as

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well after all think about it companies

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don't want the reputation of firing poor

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performers because if people regularly

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get fired it makes it harder for a

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company to promise job security to new

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employees when they come

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however if a company can throw up their

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hands and say whoa recession sorry man

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we gotta cut back we gotta you know we

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can't even offer the food we used to

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offer anymore sorry we gotta lay off a

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bunch of people generally not always

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okay not always but often the first

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people to get laid off for the poor

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performers that if a company had a

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firing policy would probably be fired

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anyway there are a lot of companies

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where people would actually be really

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hard workers in and they'd look around

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and go this is so frustrating there are

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other people putting in 10 the effort I

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do if they get paid the same amount but

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the companies don't have a policy where

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they can actually fire people so they

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wait for a recessionary cycle and then

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they go through the weeding cycle it's

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not not saying everybody who's laid off

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is affected by that just saying it's a

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very common thing that corporations do

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so in this same weeding cycle what is

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Barons telling us well they're actually

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saying that companies may be cutting

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back on cap X substantially based on the

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charts Barons is looking at and that

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could be a red flag for companies that

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sell heavy equipment or Technologies and

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systems used in capex now the first

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thing that I think of when I think of

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heavy equipment is I think of the

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Investments that farmers were making

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during the inflationary cycle after the

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pandemic during the supply chain crises

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for shipping but also for food like

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Farmers for for even wheat after Russia

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invaded Ukraine or other food products

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that exploded after the pandemic such as

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even chicken and so heavy equipment that

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goes into farming or industrial

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manufacturing or even the processing of

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meats I think a lot of that heavy

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equipment was purchased and invested in

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during the pandemic or Commodities Bull

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Run cycles and that may get rained in

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now so I'm looking caterpillar John deer

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is potential red flags here but I also

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scratched my head and wonder what about

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asml are they going to produce less chip

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manufacturing equipment well Barons

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actually gives us a little bit of

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insight into this and stay tuned because

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we still have to talk about that crazy

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uh earnings call from uh from a

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corporate CEO and it's a corporate CEO

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you're all well aware of as well

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so analysts expect aggregate capex for

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companies on the S P 1500 index to rise

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about seven percent just over one

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trillion dollars this year according to

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Citigroup that's down from a 21 increase

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in 2022. that's about a one-third as

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much growth and it really kind of

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matches inflation it is expected to rise

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just two percent in 2024. now this I

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think is interesting one of the biggest

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things that I personally have learned

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during this cycle is that things take a

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lot longer than normal to adjust it

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takes a lot longer than you'd expect for

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the market to bottom and for things like

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inflation to actually go away that

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patience is frustrating but it's also

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good for planning because if we're at

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the beginning of 2022 and we're thinking

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all right recession's coming within the

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next six months but it actually

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potentially takes two years it would be

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good to plan for that potential heads up

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now weakness is expected in more

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economically sensitive sectors although

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those that see sales rise and fall with

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demand economic demand the consumer

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discretionary sector which includes

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retail restaurants and hotels is likely

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to see capex explain a drop rather by

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three percent this year now that's

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interesting because retail restaurants

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hotels and the like which would include

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Airlines would make you wonder wait a

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minute is it possible that that booming

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segment where jobs and wages are growing

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so strongly in retail restaurants

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Airlines hotels hospitality is it

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possible that those companies are going

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to rain back their expenditures on

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coffee machines new stoves uh you know

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new equipment for their airplanes

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whatever as they try to maintain profit

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margins and as they start seeing

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competition at the top where they can't

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raise prices anymore the answer to this

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is likely yes consider for example what

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Darden the company that runs Olive

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Garden for example is doing their

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talking almost solely about efficiency

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and productivity and doing more with

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less back a year ago all they were doing

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was bragging about how they could raise

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prices this conversation a narrative has

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completely turned on its head now all of

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a sudden this the companies are

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realizing they're in a situation where

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they're looking at the scoreboard and

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they're going uh oh lost the lead that's

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not good they don't want to lose a lead

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they want to stay ahead but they don't

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have BB anymore they're not pricing

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power so what do they do they stop

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investing in their business and new

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equipment to try to maintain margins to

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appease their shareholders

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excuse me that is really borrowing from

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the future and giving to today because

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if you don't continue to reinvest in

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your business your sales will probably

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suffer in the future it's one of the

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reasons I'm personally bearish on uh on

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on retail and hospitality and travel I

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understand there's a boom in that now

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but I'm bearish on it because I don't

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think it'll last in fact before we

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continue with this Baron's piece I could

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tell you that there are already red

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flags that some of these sectors are

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starting to get hit look at this here is

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a piece from Bloomberg talking about

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hotel rooms over 500 a night are too

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much even for Rich Travelers and they

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talk about here this may be a reflection

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of diminishing consumer confidence that

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inflated prices have not been

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accompanied by a proportionate increase

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in service quality see this actually

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directly relates to the Barons piece and

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the argument that I'm making where

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companies are starting to cut back to

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maintain whatever margins they have they

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can't raise prices any more than they

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already have but then people are going

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what the hell I'm paying a premium and

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you all aren't even keeping up with

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expenditures and investments into your

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own business the service is actually

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getting worse in certain cases despite

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you paying a premium for certain

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products the results come during what

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should be one of the busiest periods for

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travel booking March is when people

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start finalizing summer plans and early

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birds get a jump on year-end holiday

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reservations okay however some 69

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percent of poll participants said their

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maximum budget per hotel room was 500

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while 24 were willing to spend a

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thousand dollars still five percent set

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their limit at two thousand and two

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percent were willing to spend three

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thousand respondents include Traders

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portfolio managers senior managers and

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Retail investors uh although 500 to 1000

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might seem high the range eliminates the

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fanciest hotels in major markets okay so

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they kind of give a little bit of a

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breakdown here of of this survey and

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here is where they suggest a difference

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I'm always interested in the Delta the

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difference of what's going on the

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results of the survey suggest that

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luxury hotels restaurants and Airlines

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will face increasingly irritated

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customers or consumers this summer I

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don't even want to talk about how

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disgusting uh uh some hotels have gotten

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in that it's kovid's over and they're

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still saying yup tip sorry no room

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service you know covert and I'm like

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this is yeah it's crazy uh

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anyway uh bank failures fast inflation

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elevated mortgage payments and the

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softening labor market especially in the

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high income sector such as Tech could

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see tourists keep discretionary spending

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in check this is a shift we wrote a

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little note here this is a shift uh from

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what we heard from American Express

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where individuals were still spending

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through the recession that was in the

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American Express last quarter earnings

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club and American Express appeals

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heavily to white collar and and higher

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income individuals so what's important

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about this well what's important is

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we're starting to see complaints at the

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margin at sort of the right side of the

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right tail maybe the higher income tail

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where people are starting to go okay

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starting to run out of money here and

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starting to have to pull back in my

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opinion that's negative not just for the

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companies that would be investing in

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capex like we were talking about the

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hotels or Airline manufacturers but it's

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also a red flag that not only are we

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going to start seeing some of that

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softening at the lower consumer end

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where we're probably going to see most

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of the softening and most of the hip but

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we're starting at the margin to see some

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hit to that discretionary higher income

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phase uh and that's something to pay

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attention to as well this is why I

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but going back to this and wanting to

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get into what this CEO is saying as well

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I do think it's worth wrapping up on

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this piece right here before we

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transition where there's this mention

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here in Bloomberg that retail investors

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see positive Airline share drivers but

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institutional and professional investors

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actually think the airlines are going to

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get hit pretty hard based on a lack of

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potential capex spending that we're

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starting to see at some of the airlines

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going back over here to Barons look at

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this the reason companies are watching

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their big ticket spending is because

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they're preparing for more muted demand

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and profits you know there used to be

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this story uh that uh uh that my

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father-in-law used to tell me he goes

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Hey Kevin you know there's this uh

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there's this story about uh this father

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who ran an antique shop off the highway

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and uh and the anti shop was doing very

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very well it was like 2021 right the

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antique shop is killing it it's got

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growth its income is going up

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everything's fantastic it's spending

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money on Advertising it's growing it's

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going great

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and then the son whose college educated

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says well Dad don't you realize we're

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going into a recession you should cut

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back and so the father-in-law says oh no

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uh or the father said we're going into a

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recession that's that's terrible well we

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better cut our spending let's let's cut

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our spending on that billboard that we

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have at the corner of the freeway that

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says Exit here to our antique store

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let's let's not spend the thousand bucks

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a month anymore on that billboard

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because we need to prepare for the

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recession and so they canceled the

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billboard

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sure enough people don't come to the

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Antique store anymore because now the

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billboard is gone and all of a sudden

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income falls for the store The Father's

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like my gosh son you were right we're

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going into a recession

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and the point of the story is to argue

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that good Lord you know some of of the

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recessionary impact of the economy that

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we're in can very much be

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self-fulfilling when businesses cut

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their cap X spending they can induce

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their own recession now this is exactly

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why uh and I try to be really neutral

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here I'm just going to put my cards on

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the table and go the reason I selected

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the cards that I did is because I think

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the cards that I chose the stocks that I

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chose are basically businesses that not

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only have pricing power but are going to

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continue to invest in capex and growing

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their businesses during the recession

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whereas other businesses are cutting so

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I think Consumer Staples restaurant

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retail Hospitality all of those uh and

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even the Industrials like the Johnson

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and Johnsons the 3ms I think they're all

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looking at

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all of them because their self inducing

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basically their own recession whereas I

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think the companies that are not are

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first of all the ones getting the stemi

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checks but second of all the ones that

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are basically the growth companies of

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the next decade the energies the chips

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uh certain electric vehicle

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manufacturers right those are the ones I

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think have pricing power because first

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of all they're getting massive stimmy

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checks from uh the government that

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really helps you continue to spend and

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if you continue to spend you continue to

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grow and you don't self-induce your

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recession think about it for a moment if

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you're that antique store except instead

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of selling antiques you sell solar

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inverters

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and the government's like hey don't cut

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back on spending here's billions of

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dollars here's a fire hose of stemi

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checks please keep investing in your

16:37

business and spending spending spending

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those businesses can be like all right

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[Laughter]

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like I hate to call it like stupid proof

16:47

because obviously I can't guarantee it

16:49

but I'm just saying if I could shake

16:52

people and go come on it's obvious go

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where the stimmy chicks are going

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uh anyway so let's keep going with this

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Barons piece here and then we got to get

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to that corporate Lasha the reason

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companies are watching Big Ticket

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spending is because they're preparing

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for muted demand and profits the federal

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reserve's interest rate hike started

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last year but usually reduced demand and

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inflation with a delay so companies have

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only begun responding as they reduce

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large Investments once they see the

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beginnings of Destruction to demand and

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sales in fact city data shows that in

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the past few months banks have tightened

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their belts on lending as a result of

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consumer and business credit worsening

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which should curb demand now I'm

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actually surprised that we've actually

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started seeing some tightening on this

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because the banking crisis according to

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NatWest and many banks hasn't really

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started yet but then again they're

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talking about the past few months so it

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is it is true that we have seen if if

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the line is down like if I invert this

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usually tightening credit standards is

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an upline but if you invert it it just

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psychologically makes a little bit more

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sense like less availability of credit

17:52

the credit tightening has kind of been

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doing this anyway I think there's this

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anticipate that the bank crisis would

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lead to more of a drop off but that

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hasn't happened yet but yes overall

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larger bags have been uh tightening over

18:05

the last year uh okay so this reinforces

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stagnating earnings growth concerns

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stagnation is oftentimes what leads the

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stock market to turn red the good news

18:15

though is according to Barons the stock

18:18

market has already reflected much of the

18:21

economic challenges and the s p 1500

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while above its low of the bear Market

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is still down 14 from late 2021's record

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high the other good piece of news for

18:34

stock investors is that lower capex

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means companies have more flexibility as

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to what they can do with their cash they

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can return more cash to shareholders

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through dividends and BuyBacks this by

18:44

the way I think is a mistake

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I really think it's a mistake for

18:48

corporations to give more dividends

18:49

right now they should be investing more

18:51

of their businesses but that's okay I

18:52

still invest in some businesses that do

18:54

BuyBacks as well look at end face for

18:55

example which amplify shareholder

18:57

Returns the s p 1500 free cash flow is

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expected to gain nine percent this year

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because of reduced capex that's fine but

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what's that going to do to return to

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earnings next year the point is that

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investors should expect weak demand

19:09

going forward but that doesn't mean

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completely shy away from the stock

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market fine but what do we want to keep

19:15

in mind going forward and where's the

19:18

CEO lash out well the first thing that I

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would keep in mind is and it meant I

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alluded to it earlier and I wanted to

19:25

give you my opinion on I was initially

19:27

thinking okay caterpillar John Deere but

19:30

what about asml I think because of the

19:33

chips Act and the massive amount of

19:35

factories that are going to be built in

19:37

the next few years and the fact that

19:39

there's like a two-year wait to get a

19:40

lot of this industrial equipment I think

19:42

companies like asml are actually going

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to be just fine thanks to this this

19:47

massive inflationary stimulus checks uh

19:50

that are coming to not only electric

19:52

vehicles solar and such but chips

19:55

specifically so

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look at this earnings call where I have

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to say I feel like this guy is totally

20:18

depressed I initially talked about this

20:21

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20:23

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20:25

because we had multiple other analyzes

20:27

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20:29

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20:30

members uh but this one I went into a

20:32

little bit more detail and I just want

20:34

to read you some of the segments here

20:36

I'm going to read you some of the

20:37

segments here of this business because I

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want you to see the sentiment change

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remember what happened when we went into

20:44

this crisis in 2022. everybody's talking

20:47

about how they can raise prices and how

20:49

great everything is right well now what

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I want you to see is the sentiment of

20:55

the CEO of none other than Restoration

20:58

Hardware yes restoration Hardware so

21:01

Steven Forbes an analyst ask the CEO can

21:05

you talk about an inflection point

21:06

within the business and here is are some

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of his responses

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sure I think based on the times we're in

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and uncertainty we're facing whether

21:15

it's the continued rise of interest

21:16

rates or the next bank or two that get

21:19

hit it's hard to be anything but

21:22

conservative right now I think it would

21:24

be foolish to be not just from the

21:26

perspective of disappointing investors

21:28

but disappointing ourselves and possibly

21:30

making decisions and investments before

21:32

we could see around the next corner you

21:34

hear this reign in don't spend more on

21:37

capex reign in get small get scared is

21:41

what he's saying because we haven't seen

21:43

around the corner yet because instead he

21:45

talks about it's a very unsettling

21:48

feeling it's like the days of Bear

21:51

Sterns and Lehman Brothers and we're

21:54

just waiting for the next shoe to drop

21:56

it's very unknown right now so we

21:59

believe that there will be an inflection

22:01

point in the second half notice he

22:03

doesn't say good

22:04

we don't know what it is what will what

22:07

will the economic environment be in the

22:09

second half what would be the condition

22:11

of the banking industry in the second

22:13

half where will interest rates what

22:14

would be what if inflation is persisted

22:18

all one has to do is Google the history

22:20

of the fed's funds rate and zoom into

22:22

the 70s and 80 80s and look how many

22:25

times the federal resolve Reserve

22:27

brought inflation under control yes yes

22:30

Mr CEO let's completely ignore that in

22:34

the 70s we left the gold standard and we

22:36

let inflation expectations on anchor and

22:39

the FED had a start stop mentality that

22:41

led to a lack of confidence for the

22:42

Federal Reserve let's completely ignore

22:45

those things and let's just talk about

22:47

the fear of the 70s and 80s how

22:49

basically we have to not spend money

22:51

anymore because we don't know what's

22:53

around the corner this is literally a

22:55

CEO that wakes up it probably loses

22:58

sleep at night and then wakes up in the

23:00

morning trembling that this company is

23:01

going to poopsie doopsy this is

23:03

Restoration Hardware by the way and I

23:05

mean if you just look at their earnings

23:07

uh right here you can see their margins

23:10

are starting to get hit now over here on

23:12

the right side you've got uh their past

23:14

margins and their income from operations

23:16

at 14.5 percent way down from the over

23:19

20 percent we used to uh see their net

23:22

income is down about an average of about

23:24

three percentage points over here

23:25

compared to the Past reporting quarters

23:27

so you could tell there's probably

23:29

there's a numbers reason why as well but

23:31

let's keep going with what he's saying

23:33

because he starts getting a little

23:34

angrier

23:35

there's not there's not oh my God hello

23:38

grammar uh there are not many people do

23:41

you know they should really have a word

23:43

thereer right like it should be there

23:46

like that that should be a word it

23:48

should be pronounced there there are not

23:50

many people on the planet see that would

23:52

be good grammar a shortening of there

23:54

are but that's how it should be written

23:55

but that doesn't exist instead people

23:57

get lazy and then they just say theirs

23:59

because there's no contraction for their

24:01

R that's kind of weird isn't it uh

24:04

anyway uh in in this context okay so

24:06

continuing uh I don't know why we go on

24:08

these grammar tangents there's

24:10

there are not many people on the planet

24:12

in levels of authority and

24:14

responsibility that we're old enough to

24:16

experience those times and I think

24:17

having a conservative View and being

24:19

prepared having a strong balance sheet

24:20

and trying to see the whole board and

24:22

all of the moves is basically prudent

24:24

okay that's fine it's always making the

24:26

argument that we're so scared at

24:27

Restoration Hardware we're gonna

24:29

basically compare this to the 70s and

24:31

80s and and try to buckle up as much as

24:33

possible which is not a bad idea it is

24:36

not a bad idea to say uh hey let's let's

24:41

pause uh and let's make sure we can

24:43

reign in to make sure we're not running

24:46

away and spending all of our money and

24:47

not being conservative to where then we

24:49

have to get emergency that debt right

24:51

that would be very bad I'm sorry if

24:53

you're sending me promotional emails

24:54

every day uh if not every day multiple

24:57

times a day calling them different

24:59

things you want to call your promotion

25:01

something different that's interesting

25:03

he's starting his little lash out right

25:05

now we're not pushing the Panic buttons

25:07

on promotion I wouldn't call it Panic

25:10

kind of promotions it's really trying to

25:12

hang on to the illusion of where the

25:13

business was in the pandemic right so in

25:16

other words he's starting to elude to

25:19

how they are different from other

25:20

businesses they're saying we're not

25:23

going to do promotions because we're

25:25

Restoration Hardware and we're fancy and

25:28

better than promotions and then he's

25:30

starting to compare to other businesses

25:32

that are sending promotional emails

25:34

every day sometimes multiple times a day

25:36

he could smell the fear at other

25:38

companies because they're freaking out

25:39

and they got to get more sales well take

25:42

a look at this I have never ever seen a

25:46

CEO pull this one so listen to this

25:49

so and that's even in this environment

25:51

and the product that's on its way is by

25:53

far the best work we've done talking up

25:55

their business okay great how they're

25:57

not how they have a value proposition

25:59

and they don't have to send all these

26:01

disruptive promotions to people that are

26:04

below us uh it is wait what and I think

26:07

that will be disruptive not only to the

26:09

high end it's going to be disruptive to

26:11

the people that are below us in the

26:13

market just because we have the scale to

26:14

buy in stock inventory and many people

26:16

don't in other words you really have a

26:19

CEO who's literally like we don't spam

26:21

people with promotions we aren't going

26:24

to be suffer like the people who are

26:26

below us because we're the high-end

26:28

Corporation and then listen to this

26:30

literally goes on

26:33

to name a company by name and bag on

26:38

them you ready for this here we go

26:40

the platforms that are out there today

26:42

whether it's a Wayfair or others again I

26:45

understand they don't take the position

26:47

we have on inventory so they can't

26:49

really Buy in volume because they're the

26:51

poppers they're the poor normies so

26:53

continuing with the quote here so they

26:56

because they can't buy in volume they

26:58

can't drive efficiency so a lot of

27:00

people say well aren't you worried about

27:02

platform so I think platforms ought to

27:05

be worried about us you know like those

27:07

website platforms they should be worried

27:09

about Restoration Hardware there's not a

27:11

lot there's not a platform that made a

27:13

dollar yet or anything I mean Wayfair

27:15

made money during the peak of the

27:17

pandemic for God's sake no and look May

27:20

Wayfair be able to hike their prices and

27:22

make it I don't know all I know is we've

27:25

got a really great model we've got I

27:27

think the most compelling Vision in the

27:29

industry

27:31

the guy is literally dumping on Wayfair

27:35

saying they only made money

27:38

during the pandemic and basically

27:42

Restoration Hardware is so much better

27:44

because they have scale and and they

27:47

have a reputation and they have a brand

27:50

and uh but at the same time we're

27:52

worried about the 1970s recession and

27:54

we're worried that listen to this I

27:56

think it's more uncertain today than

27:58

2008 and 2009. if you didn't have the

28:01

inflation problem that we had today and

28:03

you didn't have the political unrest

28:04

maybe it would be interesting but but

28:06

you do and so uh if there isn't a

28:10

complete crash uh which a complete crash

28:12

would look like the 70s or 80s which

28:15

would ultimately mean it would take over

28:16

a decade to recover from the recession

28:18

uh then then maybe we could pray for not

28:21

a complete crash but this is what we

28:23

want to prepare for so I kid you not

28:26

Restorations Hardware CEO is losing his

28:30

sh9t he is literally losing it lashing

28:35

out at the competition lashing out at

28:38

promotional emails and lashing out that

28:41

basically we're walking into the 70s and

28:43

80s and as a result they're going to

28:45

pull back on spending that's crazy

28:49

so look at this in a typical environment

28:51

in a slowing Market there's usually one

28:54

thing to hit us at once but multiple

28:56

things are hitting us at once now look

28:59

at this listen to this

29:01

yeah I think you've got you've got about

29:03

a 20 margin floor not in the worst

29:06

housing market though right now we're in

29:08

the worst luxury housing market I've

29:10

ever seen the one of the worst housing

29:13

markets anybody has ever seen I think in

29:16

the third quarter luxury housing fourth

29:18

quarter luxury if you think about where

29:20

luxury housing has been it was down 18

29:22

of the first quarter down 28 in the

29:25

second quarter down 38 in the third

29:27

quarter and now reportedly down 45

29:29

percent in the fourth quarter which

29:31

means because you're talking about

29:33

months they're kind of going down it

29:35

probably means the last month of the

29:37

fourth quarter was down close to 50

29:39

percent

29:40

damn

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29:42

you've got the refinance Market which

29:45

nobody's refinancing so nobody's able to

29:47

buy new furniture and that means the

29:49

Market's really down like 80 or 90 or 70

29:52

or 80 percent

29:56

oh man this is by far the most comical

30:01

but also kind of scary earnings call

30:03

I've ever seen this is the CEO of

30:07

Restoration Hardware but then but then

30:09

listen to this

30:11

we're cutting through the noise that's

30:13

what we're doing we're not panicked

30:15

we're not nervous

30:21

joke ever and that then he even he even

30:24

goes on to say this

30:26

do I wish yelling we'll just tell

30:29

everybody we're gonna backstop

30:30

everybody's savings and dance in other

30:32

words do I wish we could just go back to

30:34

the stimulus days of course

30:36

but I think instead we might be facing

30:39

more of the 1970s

30:43

this is by far uh

30:47

uh the uh I don't know whether to be to

30:50

be scared uh or or to think the guy has

30:53

just lost it but uh you're definitely

30:57

seeing a CEO here that's a lot more

31:00

nervous uh than I I've really seen

31:03

anywhere and I have to say

31:05

first of all anybody buying Restoration

31:08

Hardware stuff in this market

31:10

probably needs to look at themselves in

31:13

the mirror and go why am I not buying

31:16

stocks right now and instead spending it

31:18

like why am I spending money on this

31:20

expensive furniture anyway so first

31:22

things first you shouldn't be buying

31:24

crop at Restoration Hardware in this

31:25

market do the save that for a bull run

31:27

when you trim some of your highly

31:29

profitable stocks and then go splurge on

31:31

stupid furniture

31:33

in a bear Market is now the time to go

31:35

shopping at Restoration Hardware first

31:37

of all my advice second of all

31:40

I think the CEO is seeing a

31:44

disproportionate impact because I think

31:46

people are smart and realize the worst

31:48

thing to do is spend money like this at

31:49

Restoration Hardware and so he's seeing

31:52

the writing on the wall that this

31:53

company is going poopy doopsies uh and

31:56

it's probably going to be a while before

31:57

recovers part of me after that fear is

32:01

is almost tempted to short the stock uh

32:04

now In fairness the stock has already

32:06

come down

32:08

substantially and maybe that's why he's

32:11

freaking out let's go over here to

32:13

Weeble which is the platform that I like

32:15

using whether it's for trading or

32:16

looking at the charts if you go to

32:18

Weeble and you look at the pandemic low

32:21

of 2020 we're at 73 bucks we're way up

32:24

from that right we're 3x from then but

32:27

look at what we're down from 744 and we

32:31

hit a low of what 208 roughly so we're

32:34

sitting in the bottom section here of

32:36

the Fibonacci and frankly this company

32:39

might actually break lower it's had a

32:42

very rapid decline already so I don't

32:45

know how much is left to squeeze out of

32:47

this lemon in terms of a short but if

32:49

you're looking for a CEO that's

32:51

panicking I'll tell you I don't think

32:53

there's any company that is more fearful

32:56

right now than Restoration Hardware and

33:00

unfortunately it's kind of a slap in the

33:02

face to what American Express was

33:04

bragging about and maybe it's a leading

33:06

indicator that American Express is next

33:10

which some businesses by the way have

33:12

you ever heard of this they call

33:13

American Express American surprise

33:16

uh yeah anyway uh so

33:19

um I think that's when small businesses

33:21

kind of get frustrated at the fees they

33:23

get charged but anyway so American

33:24

Express talks about people spending

33:26

through the recession well if people are

33:28

using American Express at uh

33:31

Restoration Hardware then you might have

33:35

a reason to say maybe American Express

33:39

might be next so American Express is axp

33:42

stock and you can see they might have a

33:45

little bit more on the FIB retracements

33:47

to go down so if I adjust the phoebees

33:50

over here let's do a quick adjustment uh

33:52

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34:10

off some of the highs following the

34:12

banking crisis over here this is the

34:14

week chart as well by the way so we've

34:16

been teetering around this 162 level it

34:19

is possible in my opinion that American

34:22

Express could go right back to these

34:23

about 145 levels if not even I actually

34:27

don't think we're going to test the 129

34:28

but 145 would be a reasonable so if I

34:31

was looking for a short it'd probably be

34:34

more likely to hit American Express as

34:37

opposed to Restoration Hardware if I

34:39

thought at the margin we were going to

34:41

see reduced spending by rich people

34:43

because really that's what matters it's

34:46

that discretionary credit card style

34:48

spend at the margin I think businesses

34:51

uh or or like chip companies or or

34:54

otherwise they're still going to spend

34:56

money on chips but I don't know if

34:58

they're using American Express or

34:59

Restoration Hardware as much anymore so

35:02

in my opinion you're starting to see the

35:04

cracks not just on the lower end but now

35:06

you're finally starting to see the upper

35:09

end cracks and I'll tell you I it like

35:12

look I'm a licensed financial advisor

35:14

every single day I try to read earnings

35:16

calls this isn't personal financial

35:17

advice but I try to read an earnings

35:20

call a day and I have never seen a CEO

35:24

lash out like this I have seen pessimism

35:27

and on certainty but this wild I have

35:31

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