THIS is a HUGE WARNING to ALL Investors.
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hey everyone me kevin here this one
company just gave us a warning to the
economy and we've got to talk about it
because it reflects what could be
happening with the consumer the lending
company is upstart but not only are we
going to talk about the disaster that
just happened with upstart and what they
said about the consumer and banks which
is very important we're also going to
talk about what else is happening in
spaces related to this especially in
advertising with youtube channels we'll
talk about that all in this video but
first i got to give you a heads up about
the guidance first they said that they
would guide 300 million dollars of
revenue for q2 which they did however
they just updated us and said oh it
actually looks like our revenue for q2
is going to be 24
lower than that and that serves as a
really bad warning sign for what we
could expect for earnings coming up a
lot of downward revisions see it looks
like in my opinion at least ceos and
executives we're still optimistic that
oh we'll be fine for q2 after a decent
q1 some headwinds because of omicron but
overall a decent q1 well now they're
realizing oh crap wait a minute this is
bad we saw it with target remember
target gave us guidance then they're
like oh no wait this is worse q2 is
going worse and then that was three
weeks after earnings so they gave
earnings they're like everything's great
three weeks later oh god it's not three
weeks later oh it's really not and they
had to revise down again target had to
revise down their guidance twice after
giving their first guidance all within
one quarter like you're seeing sort of a
rapid deterioration there right the one
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in here okay so what did upstart tell us
upstart tells us here the following
first they give us the the new guidance
they now expect to lose about 30 million
dollars in the quarter rather than their
near break even estimate before but this
right here was very interesting ignore
all my additional notes there for a
moment just start right here where my
laser pointer is
inflation and recession fears have
driven interest rates up i mean this
makes sense that interest rates have
gone up right and and so the the initial
thought would be oh okay well maybe the
consumer is just borrowing less right
wrong consumers are actually putting
more money on their credit cards right
now and this is kind of the argument
that a firm makes right oh people are
going to spend more money with a firm
sure but that doesn't no good if they're
defaulting at higher rates right but
listen to this
and these inflation and recession fears
have put banks and capital markets on
cautious footing okay that's a red flag
that's a red flag our revenue was
negatively impacted by two factors
equally first our marketplace funding is
constrained so let me explain what that
means
upstart is a company that does a bunch
of things they do here i wrote it down
right here too so you can see it in the
green box they do
personal loans car loans wedding loans
dude if you need a loan for your wedding
do not have a wedding like
spend it on a little honeymoon instead
like weddings are such a freaking rip
off of an industry anyway home
improvement loans medical loans moving
loans moving loans dude
okay credit card loans debt
consolidation loans like these most of
these loans are loans that do appeal to
a little bit more of a subprime style
borrower the upstart website says
they'll give loans to people with a
credit score as low as 300. i didn't
even know credit scores went down to
300. uh you know there is a value
penguin i don't know if they were
sponsored to say this but value penguin
suggested that the average credit score
start at 700 i don't believe that
remotely or quite frankly at all but
whatever so so they're doing these
personal style loans
and what they're saying when they say
our capital markets are constrained is
what upstart's going to do and this is
their business model is they give you a
loan hey here's a 50 000 personal loan
or a 50 000 wedding loan or whatever
they're going to take that loan bundle
it together with let's say 10 other
people's wedding loans and then slice it
up and sell that bundle or in the
individual slices to other investors so
that way upstart makes the loan they get
the customer they make the loan they
take money and fees for making the loan
they take some kind of fee for actually
creating this product for institutional
businesses and then institutions come in
and they swoop up these loans that's the
market that buys loans so think of loans
as the product and this is why in their
statement they're still trying to brag
about how good their returns have been
in 2020 and how good they've been in
2021 and how we think we're going to
target returns in excess of 10 percent
for for people who basically take our
crappy loans
but the banks and capital markets are
like yeah you know what going into a
recession we don't really want your
crappy loans we are gonna take a little
bit of a step back so this is actually
nothing about the consumer saying that
the consumer doesn't want to borrow it's
saying that banks are starting to go
yeah no we we don't want those risky
loans anymore that's a danger but not
only are banks saying it
upstart themselves
are doing it listen to this
so the first concern was the capital
markets are constrained but listen to
this the second concern is we took
action to convert loans on our balance
sheet into cash okay when you
uh have a loan that somebody owes you so
for example
let me put it this way let's say you
lent me 50 000
on your balance sheet you have a loan
that says kevin owes me fifty thousand
dollars well if we go into a recession
and you're like you know i'd rather have
that cash you might take that loan and
go to uh you know strong man personal
finance and go yo hey strongman uh i'll
sell you kevin's loan for 45k i just
really need the cash right now strongman
might be like dude man we're going to
recession no thanks but
strong man uh or or rather the you you
might be trying to raise that cash
because you don't want these loans in
this kind of environment you want cash
you want to raise money and so the fact
that upstart is telling us that not only
are banks capital constrained or
unwilling to give
you know to buy out these loans
basically but the fact that upstart is
trying to raise cash and they're losing
money in other words of course they have
to raise raise cash this makes sense you
start seeing cracks this is the first
quarter that upstart is going to lose
money since their ipo their stock has
absolutely plummeted you don't want to
be in lending companies you don't want
to be in a firm during a recession right
just wait for defaults and allowance for
doubtful accounts to skyrocket i think
the banks are still going to get tagged
holding on to a lot of loans especially
companies like a firm
so this this is a potential liquidity
danger now something that you can do is
you can look at upstarts quarter one
reports the quarter one results and what
i would recommend doing and this is
something that we regularly do in our
course member live streams it's so so
important to do is you have to look at
the balance sheets of these companies
you have to understand that every single
quarter like you can't just do a
fundamental analysis two years ago and
then never look at these balance sheets
again you've got to get into the habit
of being able to pull these cash flow
statements up quickly and being able to
know exactly what to look for and this
is one of the big things that i instill
in my course members is like we must
teach you how to fish we must do that
together and then that way everybody can
make their own opinions and judgments of
a company so let's look at their
statement of cash flows from the last
time and you know what let's actually
start with even their balance sheet
because if we jump on over to the
balance sheet we can see if they have
risks of potential bankruptcy coming up
right so in the first quarter of 2022
and usually a company that just ipo'd
isn't even close to going bankrupt but
anyway
they had let's see here loans see right
here on their balance sheet look at that
they got fat
600 million dollars worth of loans on
their balance sheet
that's almost double what they had at
the end of last year no wonder they want
to convert that into cash because they
have less cash now than they did so they
have with restricted cash they have
about one billion dollars
of cash at the end of the first quarter
they have liabilities
of
borrowings oh wow they've borrowed about
770 million dollars they've got payables
here of 140
so 140 plus 770
that works out to debt of about 910
million dollars they've got accounts
payable that brings them to 920. i'm not
going to
consider the lease because that's more
of an operating expense these recruit
expenses that's fine that's more
operating
i mean i want to know what borrowings
are because that's a lot of money 900 i
mean basically if you look at that way
if they have a billion dollars of cash
minus
watch this okay billion dollars of cash
minus 920 million dollars of liabilities
that they have to pay soon that works
out to 80 million dollars of cash but
they're about to lose 30 mil dude
they've only got a couple quarters of
cash left they have to raise money this
is why they're now flooding the market
with their crappy loans that they're
trying to get rid of because they're
like
oh god the writing is on the wall uh
this is going to be the first recession
that upstart has ever gone through and
we need to be prepared because maybe
right now
he's just not prepared okay that's a
problem now it is possible that i'm not
properly understanding what the 700
million dollars of borrowings are we're
i'm doing this sort of on the fly here
with you
uh and and the goal of doing this is
just to show you these are the ways that
we want to be thinking when we're kind
of going through a fundamental analysis
right and so what we can do to learn up
a little bit more is we can go to the
annual report here and let's see if we
can go to the annual report if we scroll
on over to where they discuss their
balance sheet now looking at the
company's cash flow statement which is
something that i teach in our
fundamental analysis lectures every day
we do a fundamental analysis in the
course member live stream we can see
that they have about a billion dollars
of cash and about 200 million dollars of
really current liabilities the reason
we're not going to use the full 770
million of borrowings here to offset
their cash is because 661
million dollars of that is actually the
convertible senior notes that they
issued to investors these have like a
call price of like 280 dollars for the
share price so investors aren't going to
be converting these into shares anytime
soon and these are 20 26 notes so uh the
odds are this is not like a bill that's
coming due anytime soon that's certainly
not a current liability so really in
terms of near-term capitalization risk i
think the most important thing that
upstart can do is make sure that they
limit
the amount of these loans at fair value
they have on their books because if this
really starts plummeting it's going to
affect their ability to get cash or
borrow on their wholesale line of credit
so well most importantly though that the
big message from this press release is
that hey like lending markets are
starting to tighten up and even though
they say here like hey despite the
tumultuous economy upstart powered loans
have performed exceptionally well since
2018 sure but we've been in a bull run
since 2018. this is their forecast for
defaults they actually forecast that
defaults are going to go down uh in in
the latter half of the year i don't know
about that and that's what they tell us
i don't know i don't really believe it
now i do want to give you an update as
well about advertisements uh and no i'm
not talking about the course member
expiring coupon code just talking about
the uh sort of advertisements in general
for for sponsorships
and uh what we're seeing in the youtube
community so for the last three months
i've been warning that i think we're
going to see advertising slow down
because now we don't just have high
inventory issues which usually
correlates with more advertising we
actually have recessionary fears which
generally correlates with less
advertising
and i had mentioned for the last three
months especially to other creators be
careful get ready prepare we're going to
see a decline in advertisements so to be
transparent like last month we did a
whole lot of ads because we didn't think
they would be around much longer and
we're already starting to see some of
those signs companies that were
sponsoring last month are saying hey
we're just pulling out of the creator
sponsorship community in general for
right now until we assess what's going
on with markets uh so it's not a
surprise but that's just a warning sign
that companies are trying to
pull or you know rein in their spending
and what happens when one person spends
less money
one person's uh you know velocity of
money that means they're five dollars
less circulating through the economy by
the velocity of money right so this is
this is how you create a recession like
all the signs are here for this that's
not to say that like oh this is like
massively funny or whatever or that we
shouldn't be considering buying the dip
or whatever
it's just a warning that you should have
cash and you should be out of margin
go buy deals but don't expect 2022 to be
an easy ride whatsoever and upstart is
giving us a very clear warning about
this and that's why folks they're down
what are they down today they are down
21 upstart is down to 26
folks they issued those convertible
bonds and i think it was 281 dollars
anyway thanks for watching check out the
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