What Cathie Wood JUST Said
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hey everyone kevin here in this video
we're going to talk about what kathy
wood just said so take a look at this
kathy wood just said that in november we
learned that retail inventories rose
more than two percent the fastest pace
is since the 90s and she's right when i
look at the average of retail growth on
a month-over-month basis the average
over about the last 20 years is about a
one-third percentage point increase in
inventories we had a point eight percent
here in 2016 one percent in 2020. we had
a 1.3 percent over here in 2013. another
1.3 percent in 1999 somewhere up here
but the point is two percent is is a lot
she's not wrong that that is a a large
bump what we're going to do is we're
going to keep breaking down her response
here to see what we think about her
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see where kathy's going with this she's
suggesting that retail inventories rose
more than two percent the fastest pace
since the nineties at the same time
imports are up four point seven percent
and exports dropped two percent okay so
basically we're bringing more stuff to
america we're sending less stuff out
this kind of makes sense europe is in a
big slowdown uh the asia-pacific region
is doing nowhere near as well as we are
in america uh in terms of at least
keeping the economy booming uh and uh
unfortunately you know kathy doesn't
mention this here uh beyond just
mentioning that hey retail inventories
are up and consumption is flat now she
does use the inflation-adjusted phrase
for inflation by suggesting that real
consumption is flat and that savings
rates have declined but really what
she's setting up for is that hey if
we're bringing more junk in and we're
we're not getting it off the shelves
then prices are expected to come down
which could create deflationary
pressures right but before we keep going
with what she mentions in her tweet i
think it's worth looking at a little bit
of data and seeing is kathy on the right
track here is she on to something
or
is she totally wrong or is there maybe a
little bit of a middle ground let's look
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for just one dollar so here are some
articles that i i pulled up with some
research uh and here's one from neiman
marcus suggesting that
their their earnings margins are
substantially higher than what we've
seen in the past
and this comes from their october 30th
report which does indicate that
consumers are willing to pay more money
we saw the same thing at nike in the
nike earnings report that just came out
about a week and a half ago we saw that
consumers were willing to pay more money
that consumers were not demanding
markdowns and folks we see the same
thing at chipotle saying that hey their
input costs aren't necessarily going
up that they're not having this cost
pressure but still what are they doing
they're raising the prices because
consumers are willing to pay for that
but maybe kathy's right because what
happens if consumers stop spending right
well let's see we we have the
reiteration here that kathy is right
that retail inventories rose two percent
the most since 1992
wholesale inventories rose 1.2 percent
and the trade gap is widening so who
knows maybe kathy read this article here
u.s merchandise trade gap widens to a
record as imports surge okay i know that
well when i say i know i think i'm like
95 confidence kathy reads bloomberg and
behrens because a lot of times we see
the same articles and then i see her
tweets but anyway kathy didn't mention
this
which i think is worth noting take a
look at this
foot traffic at t.j.maxx marshalls rose
14.7 and 16.2 between december 1st and
christmas day so yeah inventories went
up in uh in in november but compared to
2020 we actually have more foot traffic
during this covet search like despite
omicron which is mostly a nothing burger
we know that even though the market was
fearful for a while and there was a lot
of fun about it we know it was mostly a
nothing burger which hopefully it stays
that way knock on wood right we don't
want it to turn more severe but or
evolve into some other crazy variant but
anyway same thing is true for burlington
coat factory 17.5 raw stores 22.2
so last
winter yeah we had more potential
concerns because it was our first winter
going through covet but still you had
more stimulus then now you actually have
potentially less stimulus less
unemployment money you do have the child
tax credit but that's coming to an end
and and like kathy said consumer savings
are going down yet foot traffic is up
during the omicron surge in fact if we
look at the economist we could see the
following here that yeah
travel to workplaces is falling about 25
in america but retail and recreational
activity has continued to recover in
america as well as in places like the
united kingdom and germany so according
to
mobility data people are still out there
spending and look at this this right
here is a piece from bloomberg
showing a comparison of foot traffic and
shopping uh at specific stores and the
uh black box here the black circle is
comparing 2021 to 2019 and the little
blue circle compares 2021 to 2022 or
2020 rather so any negative you have
over here means you're getting this sort
of decline in traffic so you're getting
a little bit of a decline in traffic at
walmart and at best buy
but target is freaking kicking butt
costco's kicking butt and bj's wholesale
has recovered and is is doing quite well
as well so
you're seeing this this uh
overall
a slight decline from 2019 but we're
still doing pretty dang good with our
foot traffic which implies that spending
could still be strong now this is in
contrast to the consumer sentiment
report now consumer sentiment always
seem seems to be bearish of the
sentiment of the day and that's what she
mentions here next according to the
university of michigan their consumer
sentiment which she believes is the best
survey on the consumer consumer
sentiment fell to its lowest level
during november and december now
personally i believe that's because
people are freaking out over the federal
reserve ending uh their bond buying
their taper process starting their taper
process eventually going to raise rates
and the market got kind of crappy there
at the beginning of december and at the
end of november
and consumer sentiment always seems to
drop every time you get fear about
either the omicron variant the surge we
saw in europe in november omicron coming
out uh in early november and then into
december so not a surprise in my opinion
that sentiment would fall but but again
we don't really see that kind of
adjustment here to kathy's logic and so
i'm a little bit worried that kathy is
thinking we're definitely going to have
deflation because what she's saying is
look retail inventories went up two
percent at the same time gdp went up two
percent but spending didn't go up two
percent that means everything went into
inventories and she's basically saying
we might be fighting deflation next year
we've heard this argument before i'm
going to break through this a little bit
more here but i want to just give you a
little preconclusion here
i'm worried
that
kathy isn't necessarily looking at the
uniqueness of businesses purposefully
surging inventories because of the
supply chain worries that we were not
going to have stocked shelves there have
been a lot of fears that okay now maybe
we overstock now it's time for discounts
but in terms of what we're seeing in
mobility data and the consumer actually
spending out there
most signs point to a continuation of
spending now jp morgan did notice a
slight dimension slight decline in some
spending globally but that could also be
as a result of a slowdown and lockdown
quite frankly in europe but in the
united states i don't know i want to ask
you it seems like things still feel
pretty hustle and bustle out there now
i'm not suggesting that kathy wood is
wrong but i don't think things are going
to be as extreme as kathy says here's
what kathy says might happen
she believes that a lot of what's
happening right now reminds her of y2k
where basically you had tech companies
run up but innovative companies run up
but they ended up selling down because
they were not able to innovate yet then
she believes we're going to see the
opposite of this what we're going to see
is we're going to see deflation in
consumer products and appliances and and
non-innovative companies and we're going
to see a lot of that business go to
innovative companies and in other words
she believes that her book of business
is going to do very well going forward
and that's because during times of fears
of potentially inflation going away and
fears of recession people are going to
go for growth at all costs and if people
go for growth at all costs they'll go
back to innovative stocks and the
company she's investing will do well
again fine and she ends by saying those
investors should be rewarded handsomely
maybe maybe
but
i think there's a middle ground here i
definitely don't think that we're going
to hyperinflation i think inflation is
going to inflict down but i don't
actually think we're going to go as far
as seeing deflation in 2022 or quite
frankly a risk of a recession if
anything i think the bull market is
somewhat just getting
well i shouldn't say just getting
started but i think this real like the
real fruits of the efficiencies that
we've built into so many of the
businesses and companies that we've had
whether it's supply chain efficiencies
repairing the supply chain crises
employee efficiencies by laying off a
lot of people and then hiring back new
folks new blood so to speak uh retaining
excellent talent i i think we're going
to see some incredible profit margins
that company so i'm very bullish really
more broadly so i think the summary out
of all of this is i don't think that
kathy wood is necessarily wrong we know
inflation is going to go down but i
think she's going a little too far by
suggesting we're definitely going to
deflation by not considering some of the
other aspects as to why we saw this
retail uh inventory surge and the fact
that we still see shoppers out there
like crazy despite the fact that it
almost right now feels like we're at
peak omicron and so those adjustments
not being part of her view
soften her view substantially in my
opinion so again i'm not thinking we're
at hyper hyperinflation but i also don't
think we're at this kathy wood we're
going to deflation only innovative is
going to win i think we're going to have
somewhat of a middle ground and
personally i'm pretty optimistic about
2022 which i know is hard
when when there's so much of these uh
we've been having so many of these false
rallies in full start
which uh false starts i should say to
rallies hopefully hopefully the rally
that we're seeing today continues for
example rk is up 4.7 today i hope this
continues but we've seen so many false
starts of arc go from 90 to 100 and then
back down i hope we don't have another
full start and some more red over the
next few days but i'm optimistic for
2022 long term no matter what so i'm
excited all right folks these are my
thoughts thank you so much for watching
this video my thoughts on what kathy
wood just said and we'll see in the next
one thanks again goodbye
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