Why Air India Flight 171 Crashed - 242 On Board - Boeing 787
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video that was fed in minutes after this
crash shows that this plane went down in
a fairly populated area not far from the
airport in northwest uh India. And as
you look at the video here, you're
saying to yourself, well, how much do
they do they know about what happened?
Well, it only got to 621 625 ft in the
air before it plunged uh out of the sky.
Terrible. There were 242 people on
board. It crashed shortly after takeoff.
Now, the focus is going to be, okay, did
anybody survive? And if there's no
survivors, the recovery of victims.
That's the focus right now and will be
likely for the next 24 hours or so. The
NTSB and the FAA are likely to help with
the investigation. Here's how it goes.
When there is a crash in a country, that
country leads the investigation, but
almost always they will ask the FAA or
the NTSB to assist with the
investigation. NTSB would be the lead
investigator there. The FAA would
provide technical expertise. In terms of
the Dreamliner, despite the problems
when it was initially launched, and we
covered those extensively back in that
2006 to 2011 time period, despite those
problems since then, the Dreamliner has
had a pretty good track record. In fact,
it this is the first crash involving a
Dreamliner. Boeing is in the process of
increasing its production of the
Dreamliner from four per month up to
five per month. Take a look at shares of
Boeing over the last year. It is also
expected within the next couple of
months to ask the FAA for an increase in
737 Max production. We'll see if this
investigation uh influences that
decision by the FAA. And then finally,
take a look at shares of General
Electric, GE Aerospace, I should say.
The Gen X engine has a strong
reliability record and when you talk
with people within the indust Okay, I'm
gonna jump in on this. So, let's talk
about this. Here's the thing. Jet
engines are ridiculously
reliable. Insanely reliable. It's one of
the reasons that I like having two of
them on my plane. Yep. Here's the plane
model again. So, let's just understand
jet engine for a moment. And why was the
ram air turbine allegedly It's It's a
little hard to tell from the video
deployed. And what what the heck even is
that? Uh so first of all, jet engines
compared to propeller planes, if you fly
something like a regular piston engine
plane, you typically have an engine
failure every about 3600 hours, which
most people aren't going to fly 3600
hours, but it's it it the statistical
rate is usually one engine failure in
3600 hours, whether it's a small Cessna
or a Cirrus or or whatever, right? Uh so
single engine prop plane, one every 3600
hours. for a for a turbine engine, a jet
engine, the failure rate for one of them
is typically a 100x
fewer failure rates. So, you're looking
at about one failure every over 330,000
hours. When you then combine a second
engine into the statistics, the odds of
uh really a dual engine failure are
frankly extremely extremely low. It can
happen. Uh there was an aviation
accident a few years ago where there was
a dual engine failure where it looked
like potentially still waiting on the
final NTSB report on it. Uh I think it
was in Florida where potentially uh the
pilots inadvertently reached over and
and shut off both engines manually. So
even in engine failure crashes on jet
engines uh it's it's so uncommon to see
both of them fail that uh that often
people look for some form of crew error
uh in the process. Now, I want to we'll
we'll look at the video uh in just a
moment here of the actual oopsy dupsies,
which is terrible. But it's also worth
remembering that this is this is the
first time that a Boeing Dreamliner, a
7878
uh has had this form of an accident. Uh
and it it's it's terrible. Here's the
Wall Street Journal edit together of
the clips. Take a look at this.
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Apparently, it crashed uh at about six
just over 600 ft in altitude, lost lift,
and began descending. As you could
clearly see in the video, it crashed
into uh a like a medical school. Uh and
so it's likely that some individuals on
the ground died as well. I did see uh a
note uh from uh uh the Reuters Newswire
that potentially they have one survivor
from the flight and potentially one
more. So possibly up to two survivors
from the flight, which is quite frankly
very very remarkable. But there are a
few things going on here that are
somewhat concerning. First of all, this
is a hot day. Uh so let's pull up the
temperature quickly. But uh we're not at
a very high altitude. Uh this airport
where they took off uh in India is about
192 ft uh off the ground. So we're not
at like you know an Aspen takeoff where
we're at an extremely high density
altitude in terms of actual altitude.
The problem is the temperature right now
uh is you know your average temperature
in June is a high of 101.
Uh and your weather right now I believe
is also 101. Let me see. Uh let's grab
weather 99° at the moment. Uh and then
of course uh it is uh you know we're in
the later hours of the day uh now in
India. So we're looking at uh earlier
today we had temperatures in excess of
100 to 102°. This is going to limit some
of the performance of a Boeing 787. 282
passengers. You're also knocking on, you
know, a relatively loaded well-loadaded
plane. So, you've got a heavy plane. Uh
you've got potentially a full fuel plane
here as we're we're making our way to
London uh was the destination for this.
So, 7878
max takeoff weights usually around
560,000 lb. They operate empty at about
285,000 lb and uh they generally fill up
with fuel of about 223,000 lb. Uh with
200 passengers, you know, assuming some
luggage at 200 person 200 lb per person,
maybe 225, you're you're easily adding
about 50,000 lbs of of payload here. So
you're pretty dang close to your max
takeoff weight. We're not going to have
I mean, you know, flight manifests will
show us the exact weight calculations
and performance takeoff calculations
here, but one of the things to remember
in this this aircraft is
you've got a heavy plane taking off on a
hot day. It's already hard to get lift.
So, you're up against challenges which
would require you to generally have
flaps deployed and the gear up as soon
as possible. In this clip right here, it
looks like we have a few problems. The
gear is down. Big problem. The flaps are
up. That's a
very likely a problem at this point. I
mean, they could have just removed them
when they got to 600 ft, but usually
you're going to put the flaps up at
1,000 ft. We'll talk about that in just
a moment. Uh, and then some folks are
pointing out that the RAM air turbine
may have been deployed. Now, the ram air
turbine could be deployed for two
different reasons. Engine failure or an
electrical failure.
Talk about that in just a moment. First,
I I I want to tell you what I know about
flying a smaller plane, significantly
smaller plane. But when I take off uh on
a smaller plane, we actually have uh
video of it, so I'll I'll just I'll pull
up a video of it. When I take off on a
smaller plane, they're very very
different uh from taking off like a jet.
A jet is very different from taking off
on uh in a prop plane. When I used to
learn a multi-engine on um prop planes,
we actually surprisingly
there was at least from the trainers
that I learned from and I didn't spend a
lot of time in multi-engine propanes,
but there was quite a bit of a lag time
in
how quickly you would pull up your gear
in a jet. almost the second you get a
positive rate of climb, which is
typically when you feel like you're at
about 50 feet, gear up, it's almost the
first thing you want to do in a jet. Uh
in my training, in jet training, the I
was blown away because I remember in my
training that remember I still
relatively newer pilot, but I actually
think that provides a new perspective
because it kind of gives you some
insight into, you know, what's it like
in training, right? In training, I
remember just regularly getting yelled
at like, "Gear up. Gear up. Let's go.
Get the gear up." And I was like, "Oh my
gosh, I gotta get the gear up so
freaking fast." Like, I feel like I'm
still on the ground and they're yelling
at me to get the gear up. Uh, and so I
think it gives an interesting
perspective.
Here's an example. Twitter in the
freaking video quality sometimes. You
ever notice that when you try to load a
video on Twitter or X? All right. So,
this is just an example of a jet
takeoff, and you can see how quickly we
go for the gear up. It's almost
immediately watch. I'll just play this
for you for a moment so you can see how
quickly we get the gear up. And then we
can compare that to what we see with a
Boeing that still has the gear down.
All right, go static here. Static
takeoff means I've got my feet on the
brake. Setting the power.
Full power set. Takeoff power set. Look
how long it takes to start moving.
70
alpha camera
take off right
positive right
that wasn't even that fast like the the
trainer that I learned with in Florida
would have probably wanted it even
faster than that but you see it's like
positive rate gear up it's it's the
first thing you're doing on these
So, you know, there's talk this that the
pilot flying this plane had, you know,
many thousands of hours of experience.
And so, seeing the Boeing with the gear
down at this moment is very odd because
it the gear is a substantial source of
drag. If I want to in training emergency
descend a jet. So let's say we have a
rapid depressurization
uh at 40,000 ft or whatever. One of the
emergency procedures is drop the gear.
Now you can only drop the gear on this
jet at 250 knots or below, but you drop
the gear because that gear slows you
down so fast. You could basically point
the plane down and and spiral down in an
emergency descent. And it helps you from
oversp speeding the airframe of the
aircraft because there the gear creates
so much drag. It also gives you some
more stability. It's like it's like a
boat kind of keel if you will. Uh but
the point is the gear creates a
ridiculous amount of drag. So for people
not in aviation, seeing the gear down
here is insane.
And I doubt any pilot would have
purposely left that gear down because it
is this is going to be a two pilot crew
and there's no way in hell they forgot
to put that gear up in my opinion. It's
it's so rare to not see the gear go up
because it is the very first thing you
do because it's so dang heavy. Now, does
it happen on goarounds like emergency
goarounds? Totally. But because the ram
air turbine was deployed as at least
what you're seeing some you know folks
talk about especially on like aviation
Reddit or whatever. Uh what you find uh
let's see here if I can find it again.
Yeah, here's the India flight. We we'll
I'll click around here. There's there's
a high-res video here somewhere of this
but people are talking about the ram air
turbine being deployed. Uh and yeah,
here it is. Edit two. You can actually
even see the ram air turbine spinning on
the video if you pause and zoom in at
the end. So, they uploaded an image
here. You see that here? It's very, very
grainy. It's hard for me to tell uh
exactly, you know, what's going on. It's
it's likely that's what's going on. That
could happen in a power failure. Now, in
a power failure, you could get the gear
down manually potentially and just drop
it down. Or in the Boeings, it's a
little harder. you know, they could take
a few minutes to sort of manually pump
it down. But if they had a power failure
on takeoff, it's possible they couldn't
get the gear up because a lot of the
hydraulic pumps that move the gear up in
aircraft and jet engines, even though
the engines might operate the hydraulic
pumps, the electronic, the hydraulic
pumps are electronically actuated. So,
it is possible that there was some kind
of catastrophic electrical failure here.
This is why a lot of people will say
things like, "Oh, Kevin, you know, AI is
going to replace pilots in the future."
I personally don't think so because if
you have an electrical failure, you need
somebody who could still fly the plane.
Unfortunately, this is probably the
worst condition to have an electrical
failure. Now, we don't know that's what
caused this this accident, but the
reason it's possible or or at least, you
know, something I am suspicious of is
because this aircraft has its gear down.
Its flap isn't set. Which then makes you
wonder, was there some kind of error
where they thought they had the flap set
and it wasn't actually set and the
electrical sensors weren't working? Why
was that failure not caught in their
takeoff configuration? You know, before
we go to takeoff, we press this little
button that says takeoff. Okay. Not
every aircraft has this. I I you know,
I'm used to the embryo air. Uh and if my
flap isn't set for takeoff, it won't
it'll say uh uh you know uh uh no
takeoff flaps is usually the error we
would get. Is it possible that there was
some kind of sensor failure? Maybe. But
if they were able to take off, did the
electrical failure happen after they
retracted the flaps? But why did they
retract the flaps this early? Because
you could see the plane struggling to
gain lift here. And really, you're
you're almost in a stall condition here.
Usually when we think of stall, we think
of plane nose down, but there's no lift
here. The plane's heavy. Uh it's ram air
turbines deployed which signifies either
electrical or engine failure. Uh we are
heavy, we're hot, were probably full of
fuel which is obviously terrible for the
you know the impact as well because it
just creates this disgusting you know
fireball of an explosion. But that's
just the way it is. The fuel is carried
in the wings and those are like the
first things that break off. So you know
the the the true answer here is we have
no freaking idea. But this is very odd
because this was, as far as we can tell,
a a straight out takeoff. Uh there had
to have been some kind of catastrophic
error here because it doesn't look like
Here's actually a little bit of a longer
clip. It does here. You could see
they're leveled out, almost leveled out.
So they've when this video starts, you
don't actually even see them climbing
much at all. They fail to climb as soon
as they're at, you know, 500 ft or so,
which is devastating. The most dangerous
portions of aviation, takeoff and
landing. And this is the first 787
crash. And once again, it's Boeing,
which what makes me most concerned about
Boeing is I think we touched on it, but
just in case we didn't, President
Trump's justice department has agreed to
let Boeing out of a criminal trial and
guilty pa surrounding two 737 Max 8
crashes. That's different from the 787
Dreamlininer. Uh the DOJ in a court
filing Friday said it had struck an
agreement in principle for Boeing to
avoid prosecution, meaning it won't have
to go to trial next month and can avoid
being branded a corporate felon. Why
were they going to trial anyway? Boeing
had previously reached a criminal guilty
plea in 2024 under the Biden DOJ
admitting that its workers conspired to
defraud aviation regulators before the
crashes that killed 346 people in 2018
and 2019. And that had to do with the uh
the trim override uh for the pitch
controls on on the aircraft. And the
training, at least from from my memory
on this, the training was very lax for
uh I think these were the Ethiopian
crashes uh for the pilots in how to
override a failure of the uh pitch
control which led to the rapid
oscillations and the eventual, you know,
stall and plummet out of the the sky for
these aircraft. Absolutely terrifying uh
crashes uh and terrible. And and now
there's talk, you know, as part of this
guilty plea that, you know, Boeing had
actually conspired against regulators.
And, you know, this this is why there's
so much concern around this whole like
anti-regulation movement because there's
a lot of talk around the Trump
administration looking for less
regulation. You know, it's what Elon's
been a proponent of as well. Uh, and
there's concern that could less
regulation contribute to things like
this, especially at companies like
Boeing. But here you get a little bit
more of a longer look into this just
lack
uh of of of lift essentially. Uh and
this pull up here is is almost just a
you know reaction in the moment of oh my
gosh we're going to hit something if we
don't pull up here. Uh, and you can just
see the plane sink, which is very very
common to sink like that when your gear
is down, es, you know, especially in in
a non-configured uh, setup because if
you have flaps deployed, you get more
lift. You know, when we come into land,
I usually land full flaps. I could land
flaps three or I could land flaps four,
you know, I'm generally full flaps
deployed unless I have an engine out,
then I'm then I'm flaps three. Uh, or if
I'm going, you know, super low IFR. Uh
but um
don't appear to be any flaps here. So
your your lift is miserable in a high
heat environment where your engine
performance is already bad. And if you
potentially are heavy and you had an
electrical failure that didn't let you
bring the gear up and you had a flap
failure, that could be what happened
here. Now it's speculation. Obviously,
we won't know until the NTSB is
involved. And it's absolutely terrible
uh to to see what happened here. But uh
there's a comment here that um uh many
medical students died too. Number
unconfirmed. Absolutely terrible. Boeing
whistleblower who committed suicide
warned of a lack of Q&A or quality
assurance on these 787s just two months
ago. Coincidence.
You know, there have been I mean
remember the guy uh the whistleblower
who got shot in the pickup truck sitting
in his pickup truck. Somebody just walks
up and shoots him.
You got to be careful talking bad about
Boeing.
you know, uh, terrible. Absolutely
terrible. Uh, somebody else is linking
the full clip here. Okay, we'll go ahead
and pull that up. Thank you, by the way,
for uh, provide. Can you provide some
positive stats on air travel? Kind of
scared to hop in a plane. You know, air
travel is safer than than vehicular uh,
driving, especially honestly commercial
aviation. Uh I
I think that uh if you are on a twin
turbine plane, so basically a two engine
jet plane, it is extremely rare to have
problems. These jet aircraft usually
climb like a bat out of hell. Uh you
know, heavy and hot problematic. Two
engines on a Boeing though, usually not
an issue at all. Uh so this is very
rare. the the engines that we actually
have on this puppy are uh oversized,
which is actually pretty common for a
business jet to oversize the engines. We
can climb very well on one engine. Kind
of crazy. Um, okay. So, let's look at
this. Somebody just sent me this new
footage. New CCTV footage. So, Air India
plane crash. Okay, let's see this. It's
It's really devastating to see this kind
of stuff. Okay, here we go. I had to
type it in and find it manually. Sorry.
Okay. So, here's the takeoff roll.
I mean, do I see flaps here?
I don't even It's hard to tell. I don't
even see I can't tell if we've got
because you you'd be somewhere between
10 to 30 typically on a 787 takeoff.
Now, in fairness, I've never flown a
787. Oh, wait. Am I not showing the
screen? Silly me. Sorry. Here we go.
Okay.
There we go.
Okay.
See the takeoff.
It's relatively nose high already in my
opinion. on a hot day like this. That's
quite a hell of a pitchback. Where's the
gear up, bro?
Yeah, I
The gear up right there or not moving at
all signifies a really really clear uh
uh
issue. I I
There's the impact.
Oh my gosh, that's terrible.
That's interesting. gear up. Honestly,
the gear should have been coming up by
here. You saw in the video that I played
by about right here, we were gear up.
And it doesn't look like the gears going
up at all. But why would if they had an
electrical failure by this point,
the takeoff should have been aborted.
So, something else that I didn't that I
didn't say that could add some
perspective here is
in my video you are going to hear me say
uh 70 check. Okay, so I say 70.
Uh my fo says check. Okay, this is
important.
70 check.
Okay, it's a cross check at 70 knots.
That is a decision moment. If I have any
problem before 70 knots, I pull the
throttle back and I I slam on the
brakes. I try to maintain that center
line and I'm going to get off the
runway. I'm going to abort the takeoff.
It's going to take me 20 minutes to take
off again because those brakes, those
ceramic brakes are going to have to cool
down cuz I'm going to be creating some
smoke.
So the 70 check is really important, but
it's an opportunity to abort the
takeoff.
If you have a problem between 70 in in
this jet, it's going to be a higher
speed obviously for the Boeing and V1.
You only abort for engine failure or
engine fire. So maybe they had an
electrical failure between
their version of 70, their cross check,
which could be at 80 or 90 for them,
right? And V1. That would explain why
that gear didn't go up, unless of course
they just forgot the gear. Again, I
think it's remarkable to forget the
gear.
Alpha
positive.
Look at that. I go positive rate gear
up. My alttimeter is not even at 100
feet yet. This uh elevate, this airport
is at 73 feet. So, I'm about 25 30 ft
off the ground and my gear's going up.
So, it's already driving in. Now, it
takes a moment for it to drive in
obviously, but it's useful to think
about that because we don't see that in
uh in in this shot. Uh let's pull it up
again here in
where did I just put it? Anyway, we
don't see that at all in
this Air India
takeoff which is quite concerning. I'll
show you another angle too but let's
play this one more time. Okay, so here
you go.
Okay, here comes V1.
This would be rotate. There you go. The
nose is up and liftoff.
Gear fully deployed the entire time. And
it's very hard to tell if the Rammer
turbine is out yet at this point.
Can't get lift.
It's so sad.
This is so sad. Hot day. So again,
performance problems, right? Not
uncommon. I want to show you uh another
angle of just sort of a normal
takeoff.
This is me flying out of Henderson and
my trainer uh who was in a prop plane
right behind me who trained me. I love
this guy. Chris Weey, all in aviation.
Like shout out to you guys. You guys are
amazing. Frankie, Dana, love y'all.
Jacob, great people. Okay. All in
aviation. Henderson. Great. Hashtag
notsponsored. But I did all my training
there in these serious aircraft. Uh and
so one of my trainers saw me going to
take off and uh you'll see, you know, in
our takeoff roll how quickly we go for
that gear. Although the clip ends pretty
much right when it starts, but there's
our takeoff roll and gear's already
going up. You see it kind of collapsing
in right there. There's only another
like second of the video there, but that
gear is already going up and we're what
20 ft off the ground. So, I can't stress
enough how important it is to get that
freaking gear up ASAP, ASAP, ASAP.
That's what I learned in my training.
That's what I learned. Uh that's what I
do in practice. And to see
this
not happening on this Boeing, I have I'm
I'm very hardressed to believe that the
pilots forgot the gear.
It like two pilots. It It just seems so
unlikely. And again, combined with the
ram or turbine, there had to have been
some kind of catastrophic electrical
failure. That's my opinion at this
point. Obviously, we'll find out more uh
as uh as we get more details. But um
uh yeah, somebody says, "Can we do a
clip of a Boeing takeoff?" Let's do
that. Uh and then we'll be done. Boeing
787 takeoff. You know, a Dreamliner
takeoff. Let's see how quickly they take
off. Extreme close-up takeoff at
Melbourne Airport. Sounds perfect. All
right, there's our takeoff roll.
Okay.
All right. There's the one. Let's see
how So, by 50 ft, you usually start
going in. And here it's activated
already. Do you see the doors open up
already? And they're going in.
So, it takes a moment, but those doors,
so in other words, they activated the
switch very quickly. Look right here.
See these doors right here? Look how
quickly they're activating the gear up.
It's a great suggestion, by the way, in
the comment, by the way. Thank you for
saying that. Look at this. They're
they're 10 feet off the ground. And
those gears start opening. The the gear
doors start opening up. Watch this. My
my gear doors stay open
there. See that? That's the pilot
activating gear up. So, literally
positive rate gear up. The very first
freaking thing they do.
And then obviously it it takes time for
the procedure to complete, but the
pilot's activation of gear up was
instantaneous. They're faster than me on
gear up.
Great suggestion in from the comments
here. Thank you. Thank you for saying
that. Uh so
it's it's very very sad. Very very sad.
Uh and
Maybe the gear of the plane was was
stuck. It's possible. Uh again, would
you get ram air turbine coming down?
Again, maybe the ram air turbine wasn't
down, right? But if the RAT was down,
you'll see that written as rat.
Then it was likely electrical related.
Uh and so even with the thrust of the
two engines uh in this heat at max load
you could have had trouble climbing.
Uh very sad. Usually by the way when we
have uh climb performance issues you
lower your your angle of attack
substantially.
So, when I go to climb uh out of a uh
hot airport like let's say uh Harry
Reid, I'm climbing at a substantially
lower pitch because I'm hot and heavy
potentially. This looks like a pretty
decent pitch. Honestly, you know, I
don't know that you need to climb at
that heavy of a pitch, especially if you
can't get the gear up.
So there could have been an issue here
where there was a little bit of panic
where you know the gear wasn't going up
and they decided uh or or and they
didn't level off a little bit earlier
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there. They tried to pitch down a little
bit. You can actually see them adjust
their pitch here. So the gear's still
out. I believe that's what I'm seeing
here. You could see the pitch angle
changes
right about there as they start pitching
the nose down a little bit. I think they
realize they pulled back a little too
much. The problem is now they're already
sinking. Sink rate.
It's It's devastating. I don't even want
to watch it again. It's It's so sad.
It's so sad. Uh but that's my breakdown.
That's my opinion. Why not advertise
these things that you told us here? I
feel like nobody else knows about this.
We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes. Congratulations, man.
You have done so much. People love you.
People look up to you. Kevin Praath
there, financial analyst and YouTuber,
Meet Kevin. Always great to get your
take.
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