The Fed is Flipping Again.
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it's me Kevin CEO of house Haack and
data 7 the Federal Reserve specifically
Mr Hawker at the Federal Reserve just
dismissed the warmer January higher
inflation readings and in this video I
want to explain what this potentially
means as a bit of a shift uh first
yesterday just to catch you up yesterday
in my me Kevin report I briefly talked
about how the Federal Reserve has sort
of removed forward guidance this was odd
because typically the Federal Reserve
appre appreciates and enjoys and
reiterates that their job is to provide
everybody expectations of what's going
to come in the future they did this as
rates were going up in 2018 then when
they paused rate increases they did this
as we were going through covid uh
through uh these stimulative programs uh
that obviously they helped fund for the
government they were the money printers
after all uh they provided forward
guidance when they said that they
thought inflation would be transitory
they provided forward guidance in uh how
high they would likely end up going with
rates uh rate increases and how we would
end up staying higher for longer before
cutting rates and when we began the rate
cut cycle we actually saw a 50 basis
point cut uh just in September of 2024
here just a few months ago under the
basis that the labor market was
weakening and that the Federal Reserve
was guiding that if the labor market
continued to deteriorate we could
continue to see larger Cuts now what's
fascinating is and this is just the
catchup part what's fascinating is the
Federal Reserve has suggested Hey Okay
so we've we've done what we're willing
to do uh we used to give you forward
guidance right now we're just going to
hang out now this may be because of the
turbulence of trump policy see for the
first two months after Trump was elected
we heard Federal Reserve officials say
we're not going to provide any opinion
on tariffs once we see what the tariffs
are at that point we will react okay so
the forward guide at that point was
we're just not going to do anything then
on December 18th they told us and this
by the way hit the stock market at least
temporarily you know a lot of funds
started selling uh after this and you
could see a noticeable drw uh at least
again temporarily
here December 18th the Federal Reserve
suggests you know uh we see this tariff
policy as potentially inflationary and
uh we're we're you know going to act in
anticipation of that and this was seen
as a big flip-flop from the Federal
Reserve because they had gone from we're
going to give you forward guidance
forward guidance forward over forward
guidance for years to uh we're not going
to respond to tariff policy until it
takes effect which is fine that's a form
of forward guidance then flip-flopping
to we are now going to give you guidance
on tariffs to then walking that back in
January and
going to stay higher for longer but
something else has changed the Federal
Reserve has basically given us no clues
in terms of when they're going to cut
again they essentially just say we're
just going to be data dependent at this
point so it feels like the Federal
Reserve is sort of just leaning back in
their chair saying hey you know what
we're just going to wait and see what
happens at this point because we have no
idea we have no idea what the impact of
uh hundreds of thousands of bureaucrats
losing their jobs in Washington DC or
around the country it you know working
for the federal government including uh
uh you know States like California which
employ a lot of federal government
workers we have no idea what that is
going to do uh so we'll wait and see we
have no idea what reciprocal tariffs are
going to look like uh you know Donald
Trump did just announce these and
suggested that lutnick was basically
going to go country by country uh but
the the idea that uh value added taxes
in Europe are going to be considered a
form of a tariff that we now have to
reciprocally mat
is
somewhat uh unclear because how are we
going to pull that off so okay so you
have a sales tax on Apple
laptops uh our sales taxes in the United
States say average 7% yours is 177% so I
guess we have to now
reciprocally tax your computers by
10% wait what computers am I buying from
France again anyway so then then there's
this idea that these tariffs are going
to come from the angle of okay well well
maybe they won't just be monetary
tariffs like that Kevin maybe they'll
also be you know requirements of like
car testing this is like Automotive
regulation this this is interesting okay
so in other words nobody has any flying
f as to what is going to happen with you
know lutnick suggestions Comer secretary
uh to Donald Trump uh and to the
treasury secretary on how to actually
Implement these tariffs so the Federal
Reserve has really flipped into this
this back seat of yeah we we just don't
know so we're just not going to give you
guidance now the one guidance that they
gave us just now just with the hawker's
announcement here is that the January
CPI numbers they threw cold water on
them yes they were a little bit warmer
and and markets were unhappy about that
uh P you know PCI numbers were a little
better sorry the PPI numbers were a
little bit better the next day uh PCI
numbers is what am I talking about
installing another graphic card into a
computer that's a pain in the butt okay
I shattered the darn glass on the front
of the computer accidentally
I I I've taken that glass off and on
like 17 times but the problem is I I zip
tied all of the
cables to really clean it up and make it
look nice but but that meant I had to
crawl under a table to reinstall the
glass so I'm putting the glass and
crooked and uh let's just say um my
family had a little U uh education in
what what tempered glass
means it explodes anyway so um got to
keep that that away from the babies
anyway uh this interesting piece here
from from the doomberg uh is that Hawker
uh greeted with skepticism the data
showing that Consumer Price Index uh the
Consumer Price Index Rose in January by
the most since August of
2023 uh you know with a broad range of
increases I mean let's not even get
started talking about groceries or gas
uh prices and then of course what we're
seeing with insurance rates insurance
rates are mind-blowing but then you know
their costs have gone up a lot as well
and I'm not here to sh the insurance
companies have nothing I benefit from
lower Insurance prices that's all I know
but in the last decade CPI inflation in
January has surprised on the upside nine
out of 10 times Hawker said my
conjecture is that seasonal adjustments
are struggling to keep up with a fast
changing economy and we need to parse
the underlying Trends from the
month-to-month
noise uh the Philadelphia fed Chief said
he fully supported the decision to leave
rates stable last month and he said that
rates are at a good level to bring back
inflation to the fed's 2% goal in the
next 2 years if the economy evolves as
he anticipates so now this is
interesting because the Federal Reserve
is basically taking this POV of like hey
we're taking vaccine we don't know when
when how long higher for longer is going
to be and we're not going to provide
forward
guidance that's basically what we've
gotten in the last meetings but today we
get some detail from Hawker where he
actually
says that high inflation in January AR
is uh transitory oh oh and by the way um
it might take us 2 years to get back to
2% so uh see you in two years
peace oh okay wow yeah that that would
take quite a while that would not be as
ideal as what a lot of folks are hoping
for mostly because it then just takes
that much longer for housing to become
affordable for people to start buying
again uh now personally I believe you
know from a house hack point of view
that uh as a real estate investor if you
can buy in high quality areas now there
is a benefit to that because you do have
lower competition and you are starting
to see Supply ramp up now this is
typical generally you see Supply ramp up
in March then in April you know
sometimes in February you start seeing
it people try to get ahead of the curve
but most of the inventory like we tend
to hit Peak inventory somewhere around
July right before school starts uh and
then whatever's left kind of dictates
pricing for the rest of the year because
you know if people really need to sell
they start cutting their prices because
they're like crap school's about to
start we're about to go into the
holidays cut cut cut uh and and that's
often where deals can be had that's why
I like Q3 Q4 for buying you know when we
launched house hack we
said uh we're starting the company in 22
we're going to buy in Q3 Q4 of 23 and
that's exactly what we
did now since we've deployed and we've
renovated and now we're doing some Adu
developments and and uh and buying um
you know where we can develop which is
great but uh there is an uncertainty
here for a lot of folks who are just
trying to get into their first home
given that uh you know rates if this is
if what Hawker is saying here is true
and and there isn't any kind of you know
recessionary impetus then it's going to
be a while before rates come down uh and
so the forward guidance is basically hey
uh you're all screwed for longer and
that kind of sucks now that could be
good for the stock market because really
for rates to come down more rapidly you
would probably need to see some form of
recessionary impetus and that would be
bad for the stock market but it would be
good for the rates Market it would be
good for bonds it would be good for uh
you know to some extent uh being able to
finance that lower rates you know what
that does in certain markets where there
could potentially be more job losses is
uncertain but
at this point I find that the Federal
Reserves guidance uh so to bottom line
the video is inflation's going to 2%
we're not worried about it but we're
just going to sit here and twiddle our
thumbs uh until it happens so good luck
that's sort of the bottom line that I'm
I'm getting out of everything that the
FED is doing which again isn't great
because it means that the Federal
Reserve is backing away from giving us
any guidance on you know their take on
the potential like they're telling us
what's going on now oh yeah yeah the
economy's good now job market seems good
and stable now great but what are your
internal projections saying for the
potential for that to evolve they used
to give us that and they're not anymore
so I think it's an interesting shift
keep in mind when it comes to the debt I
know there's a lot of uh social
discussion around uh how unsustainable
the debt is keep in mind that debt can
actually be extremely sustainable if and
I'm not I'm not a shill for more
government spending but debt can be
extremely sustainable if the economy is
growing very well see as long as we are
increasing or we are increasingly seeing
productivity gains uh and we are seeing
an expansive economy you could actually
expand away from the value of that debt
now it'd be nice if the debt stopped
growing so we can actually finally
outpace the value where it currently
sits you know if you're $30 trillion in
debt it would be nice to have the
economy grow to say $50 trillion and you
basically leave that debt in the dust
over time as the economy then grows to1
trillion and hopefully that debt stays
stable so keeping that debt from from
growing exponentially is very important
and so far the debt is still growing and
still expanding which is problematic uh
even under the Trump Administration
we're still sort of growing at that pace
that we had been growing at in Prior
years and that's not a dis on on Trump I
mean he just took office you know what
three weeks ago it's just to say you
know the debt still growing so uh we got
some work to do anyway we'll see how it
goes thanks so much for watching we'll
see you all in the next one folks
goodbye good luck out there and keep
this in mind when you're reading or
hearing anything about the Federal
Reserve it's going to be a whole lot of
sitting back in their chairs twiddling
their thumbs bye good luck from the CEO
of house Haack and the daddy of seven
kids goodbye Daddy
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