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The Fed is Flipping Again.

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it's me Kevin CEO of house Haack and

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data 7 the Federal Reserve specifically

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Mr Hawker at the Federal Reserve just

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dismissed the warmer January higher

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inflation readings and in this video I

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want to explain what this potentially

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means as a bit of a shift uh first

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yesterday just to catch you up yesterday

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in my me Kevin report I briefly talked

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about how the Federal Reserve has sort

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of removed forward guidance this was odd

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because typically the Federal Reserve

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appre appreciates and enjoys and

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reiterates that their job is to provide

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everybody expectations of what's going

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to come in the future they did this as

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rates were going up in 2018 then when

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they paused rate increases they did this

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as we were going through covid uh

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through uh these stimulative programs uh

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that obviously they helped fund for the

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government they were the money printers

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after all uh they provided forward

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guidance when they said that they

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thought inflation would be transitory

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they provided forward guidance in uh how

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high they would likely end up going with

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rates uh rate increases and how we would

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end up staying higher for longer before

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cutting rates and when we began the rate

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cut cycle we actually saw a 50 basis

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point cut uh just in September of 2024

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here just a few months ago under the

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basis that the labor market was

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weakening and that the Federal Reserve

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was guiding that if the labor market

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continued to deteriorate we could

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continue to see larger Cuts now what's

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fascinating is and this is just the

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catchup part what's fascinating is the

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Federal Reserve has suggested Hey Okay

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so we've we've done what we're willing

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to do uh we used to give you forward

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guidance right now we're just going to

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hang out now this may be because of the

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turbulence of trump policy see for the

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first two months after Trump was elected

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we heard Federal Reserve officials say

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we're not going to provide any opinion

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on tariffs once we see what the tariffs

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are at that point we will react okay so

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the forward guide at that point was

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we're just not going to do anything then

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on December 18th they told us and this

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by the way hit the stock market at least

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temporarily you know a lot of funds

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started selling uh after this and you

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could see a noticeable drw uh at least

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again temporarily

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here December 18th the Federal Reserve

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suggests you know uh we see this tariff

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policy as potentially inflationary and

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uh we're we're you know going to act in

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anticipation of that and this was seen

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as a big flip-flop from the Federal

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Reserve because they had gone from we're

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going to give you forward guidance

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forward guidance forward over forward

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guidance for years to uh we're not going

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to respond to tariff policy until it

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takes effect which is fine that's a form

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of forward guidance then flip-flopping

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to we are now going to give you guidance

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on tariffs to then walking that back in

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January and

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going to stay higher for longer but

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something else has changed the Federal

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Reserve has basically given us no clues

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in terms of when they're going to cut

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again they essentially just say we're

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just going to be data dependent at this

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point so it feels like the Federal

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Reserve is sort of just leaning back in

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their chair saying hey you know what

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we're just going to wait and see what

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happens at this point because we have no

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idea we have no idea what the impact of

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uh hundreds of thousands of bureaucrats

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losing their jobs in Washington DC or

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around the country it you know working

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for the federal government including uh

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uh you know States like California which

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employ a lot of federal government

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workers we have no idea what that is

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going to do uh so we'll wait and see we

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have no idea what reciprocal tariffs are

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going to look like uh you know Donald

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Trump did just announce these and

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suggested that lutnick was basically

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going to go country by country uh but

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the the idea that uh value added taxes

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in Europe are going to be considered a

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form of a tariff that we now have to

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reciprocally mat

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is

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somewhat uh unclear because how are we

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going to pull that off so okay so you

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have a sales tax on Apple

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laptops uh our sales taxes in the United

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States say average 7% yours is 177% so I

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guess we have to now

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reciprocally tax your computers by

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10% wait what computers am I buying from

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France again anyway so then then there's

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this idea that these tariffs are going

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to come from the angle of okay well well

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maybe they won't just be monetary

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tariffs like that Kevin maybe they'll

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also be you know requirements of like

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car testing this is like Automotive

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regulation this this is interesting okay

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so in other words nobody has any flying

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f as to what is going to happen with you

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know lutnick suggestions Comer secretary

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uh to Donald Trump uh and to the

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treasury secretary on how to actually

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Implement these tariffs so the Federal

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Reserve has really flipped into this

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this back seat of yeah we we just don't

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know so we're just not going to give you

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guidance now the one guidance that they

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gave us just now just with the hawker's

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announcement here is that the January

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CPI numbers they threw cold water on

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them yes they were a little bit warmer

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and and markets were unhappy about that

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uh P you know PCI numbers were a little

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better sorry the PPI numbers were a

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little bit better the next day uh PCI

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numbers is what am I talking about

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installing another graphic card into a

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computer that's a pain in the butt okay

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I shattered the darn glass on the front

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of the computer accidentally

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I I I've taken that glass off and on

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like 17 times but the problem is I I zip

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tied all of the

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cables to really clean it up and make it

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look nice but but that meant I had to

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crawl under a table to reinstall the

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glass so I'm putting the glass and

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crooked and uh let's just say um my

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family had a little U uh education in

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what what tempered glass

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means it explodes anyway so um got to

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keep that that away from the babies

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anyway uh this interesting piece here

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from from the doomberg uh is that Hawker

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uh greeted with skepticism the data

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showing that Consumer Price Index uh the

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Consumer Price Index Rose in January by

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the most since August of

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2023 uh you know with a broad range of

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increases I mean let's not even get

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started talking about groceries or gas

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uh prices and then of course what we're

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seeing with insurance rates insurance

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rates are mind-blowing but then you know

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their costs have gone up a lot as well

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and I'm not here to sh the insurance

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companies have nothing I benefit from

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lower Insurance prices that's all I know

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but in the last decade CPI inflation in

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January has surprised on the upside nine

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out of 10 times Hawker said my

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conjecture is that seasonal adjustments

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are struggling to keep up with a fast

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changing economy and we need to parse

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the underlying Trends from the

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month-to-month

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noise uh the Philadelphia fed Chief said

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he fully supported the decision to leave

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rates stable last month and he said that

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rates are at a good level to bring back

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inflation to the fed's 2% goal in the

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next 2 years if the economy evolves as

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he anticipates so now this is

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interesting because the Federal Reserve

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is basically taking this POV of like hey

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we're taking vaccine we don't know when

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when how long higher for longer is going

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to be and we're not going to provide

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forward

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guidance that's basically what we've

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gotten in the last meetings but today we

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get some detail from Hawker where he

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actually

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says that high inflation in January AR

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is uh transitory oh oh and by the way um

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it might take us 2 years to get back to

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2% so uh see you in two years

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peace oh okay wow yeah that that would

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take quite a while that would not be as

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ideal as what a lot of folks are hoping

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for mostly because it then just takes

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that much longer for housing to become

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affordable for people to start buying

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again uh now personally I believe you

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know from a house hack point of view

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that uh as a real estate investor if you

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can buy in high quality areas now there

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is a benefit to that because you do have

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lower competition and you are starting

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to see Supply ramp up now this is

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typical generally you see Supply ramp up

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in March then in April you know

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sometimes in February you start seeing

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it people try to get ahead of the curve

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but most of the inventory like we tend

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to hit Peak inventory somewhere around

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July right before school starts uh and

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then whatever's left kind of dictates

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pricing for the rest of the year because

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you know if people really need to sell

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they start cutting their prices because

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they're like crap school's about to

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start we're about to go into the

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holidays cut cut cut uh and and that's

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often where deals can be had that's why

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I like Q3 Q4 for buying you know when we

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launched house hack we

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said uh we're starting the company in 22

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we're going to buy in Q3 Q4 of 23 and

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that's exactly what we

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did now since we've deployed and we've

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renovated and now we're doing some Adu

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developments and and uh and buying um

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you know where we can develop which is

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great but uh there is an uncertainty

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here for a lot of folks who are just

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trying to get into their first home

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given that uh you know rates if this is

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if what Hawker is saying here is true

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and and there isn't any kind of you know

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recessionary impetus then it's going to

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be a while before rates come down uh and

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so the forward guidance is basically hey

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uh you're all screwed for longer and

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that kind of sucks now that could be

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good for the stock market because really

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for rates to come down more rapidly you

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would probably need to see some form of

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recessionary impetus and that would be

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bad for the stock market but it would be

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good for the rates Market it would be

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good for bonds it would be good for uh

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you know to some extent uh being able to

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finance that lower rates you know what

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that does in certain markets where there

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could potentially be more job losses is

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uncertain but

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at this point I find that the Federal

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Reserves guidance uh so to bottom line

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the video is inflation's going to 2%

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we're not worried about it but we're

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just going to sit here and twiddle our

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thumbs uh until it happens so good luck

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that's sort of the bottom line that I'm

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I'm getting out of everything that the

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FED is doing which again isn't great

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because it means that the Federal

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Reserve is backing away from giving us

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any guidance on you know their take on

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the potential like they're telling us

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what's going on now oh yeah yeah the

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economy's good now job market seems good

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and stable now great but what are your

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internal projections saying for the

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potential for that to evolve they used

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to give us that and they're not anymore

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so I think it's an interesting shift

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keep in mind when it comes to the debt I

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know there's a lot of uh social

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discussion around uh how unsustainable

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the debt is keep in mind that debt can

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actually be extremely sustainable if and

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I'm not I'm not a shill for more

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government spending but debt can be

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extremely sustainable if the economy is

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growing very well see as long as we are

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increasing or we are increasingly seeing

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productivity gains uh and we are seeing

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an expansive economy you could actually

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expand away from the value of that debt

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now it'd be nice if the debt stopped

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growing so we can actually finally

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outpace the value where it currently

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sits you know if you're $30 trillion in

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debt it would be nice to have the

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economy grow to say $50 trillion and you

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basically leave that debt in the dust

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over time as the economy then grows to1

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trillion and hopefully that debt stays

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stable so keeping that debt from from

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growing exponentially is very important

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and so far the debt is still growing and

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still expanding which is problematic uh

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even under the Trump Administration

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we're still sort of growing at that pace

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that we had been growing at in Prior

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years and that's not a dis on on Trump I

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mean he just took office you know what

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three weeks ago it's just to say you

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know the debt still growing so uh we got

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some work to do anyway we'll see how it

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goes thanks so much for watching we'll

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see you all in the next one folks

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goodbye good luck out there and keep

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this in mind when you're reading or

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hearing anything about the Federal

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Reserve it's going to be a whole lot of

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sitting back in their chairs twiddling

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their thumbs bye good luck from the CEO

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of house Haack and the daddy of seven

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kids goodbye Daddy

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