How Bad will the Market Crash | Evergrande Disaster.
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hey everyone kevin here in this video
we're going to talk about how bad ever
grants crisis will be we'll talk about
reactions in the market and in
cryptocurrency and cryptocurrency is
actually going to help us a lot here the
reason i say this is first i ran through
a thought experiment earlier in the
course member live stream we talked
about what could the potential worst
case scenario be in the evergrand crisis
and so in this video what i'm going to
do is i'm going to go through my
envisioning of what could potentially be
the worst case scenario for the
evergreen crisis then i'm going to talk
about some inflection points happening
in the market right now then we're going
to talk about what i actually think in
terms of how bad the ever grant crisis
will be now i could be wrong this is of
course just my opinion but let's get
right into it okay folks so the first
thing that we did in the thought
experiment is we came to the conclusion
that in an evergrand style collapse the
very first thing that's likely to happen
is that bond prices for evergrants
company would collapse and evergrants
stock price would collapse we'll take a
look at those in just a moment and we'll
look for inflection points then we would
expect real estate prices in china to
collapse and we would expect to see an
inflection point to the upside or
downside depending on how bad things
actually end up getting
then we would expect to see bond yields
go up not just in china because remember
when people sell bonds their price goes
down more sellers drive prices down
which pushes yields up we'd expect to
see see yields go up and i specifically
want to track the u.s market because
there are a lot of individuals in china
who invest in u.s dollar denominated
debt and so a sell-off in bonds will
lead to rates going up where yields
going up in the united states as well
that has the effect essentially of
increasing mortgage interest rates in
the united states and we know that real
estate is linked to mortgage interest
rates to the point where if interest
rates fall one percent or sorry go up
one percent home prices could fall about
10 percent you've got about that one to
10 connection there and this could
really affect u.s real estate prices and
when real estate prices in the united
states start coming down we often see
stock prices also start coming down and
lately we've seen stocks the company
like zillow open door and redfin start
coming down which some are speculating
is almost the stock market potentially
trying to predict
a fall in real estate prices but is that
related to the ever grant crisis well
let's take all of this apart because
we've heard a lot of things about the
ever evergreen crisis the best thing to
do is just get right into it and follow
the updates so first we know that
evergrand likely missed a 45.2 million
dollar interest payment just an interest
payment can you imagine that having a 45
million dollar payments like a 45
million dollar mortgage to make and you
missed the freaking payment your credit
score probably going down but don't
worry evergrant's credit score is
already junk this by the way comes after
the fact that evergrand missed a payment
actually missed two payments last monday
missed a payment last thursday or likely
missed a payment last thursday just like
this one
evergrand last thursday said they sent
the payment but we never got evidence
that it was actually sent and we never
got evidence that the money was actually
received so that's why we say it was
likely missed but what's interesting is
how certain things are reacting in the
market so remember how i said the first
thing we would expect to see is a
movement in the stock price
well take a look at this when we hop on
over to the stock price right here we go
to a year to date decline of about 79
percent
and while there are fluctuations on the
minute minute hour to hour take a look
at how evergrand stock has actually
essentially bottomed out around
september 21st which is where we had a
little bit more of peak fear in fact
let's go ahead and zoom into that a
little bit let's go into the one month
here and even though we have
fluctuations on the up and the downside
and we want to be careful for a
potential double dip usually the big
first inflection point is one we really
want to pay attention to it's kind of
like in the covid recession our markets
sort of hit bottom on march 23rd and
again on april 3rd but the april 3rd
bottom was a little more shallow than
the march 23rd bottom in 2022 and then
we took off from there and so this is
something in my opinion i'm going to be
paying attention to the fact that we
just got an inflection point in
3333.hk that's the stock ticker symbol
the easiest way to do is just type into
3333.hk or if you type it into the url
bar type the word google first because
otherwise it tries to take you to some
weird website
we could also do this with
6666 this is a china's china evergreens
ev group let's take a look at this one
so take a look at this one this is the
group here and if we go to
year to date to start with we're down
about 41 but take a look at that
similar inflection point where from the
bottom here we've actually seen about a
23 percent rise i suppose it's also
worth looking at that here let's go from
the bottom we've seen about a 28 rise so
we've started to actually see an
inflection point in the price of the
stock that's despite the fact that again
today we missed another
debt payment or in china's case that'd
be yesterday
then let's do this the next thing i
talked about was crypto we'll take a
look at coin market cap and i really
like using crypto as a catalyst tool for
understanding what's going on with uh
with with china because china while it's
always made headlines for crackdowns
china has some of and has historically
had some of the top 10 volumes for
crypto some citizens have in the past
moved closer to power plants to profit
from cheap electricity so they can mine
electricity you've got a lot of hodlers
in china china is one of the top 10
hodler countries in fact i think it's
almost top five
and even though you've got a lot of this
drama going on with again china banning
crypto transactions or financial
institutions from working with crypto
you've got a lot of crypto investors and
hodlers in china and so when we see
sell-offs in crypto pricing sometimes in
my opinion that could be a sign of
stress related to china such as the
evergreen crisis that's why i said that
crypto could fall under the evergreen
crisis and that's why i've been saying
that for over a week and a half now to
two weeks as we've been covering the
evergreen crisis we're also seeing some
money flow into decentralized exchanges
which makes a lot of sense that we would
get away from centralized finance to
sort of still be able to invest in
cryptocurrencies
in china but what's more important is
the signal right now of cryptocurrencies
for this ever grant crisis so what we're
going to do here is we're going to go to
the trading view history here and we're
going to look at the day chart and uh
take a look at the day chart here for
bitcoin the evergrand crisis really came
to light closer to the the third and
fourth week of september where we are
now and we really had a pain day for
crypto here on the 20th where we really
sold down and we had another pain day on
the 24th and again here in the last
couple days or about three to four days
ago we also had pain days these were
these were larger sell-off days it's
easier to look at this on the one hour
candlestick so let's go ahead and do
that we're going to jump on over to the
one hour candlestick
and you can see here this is a september
7th sell-off we had a lot of crypto
liquidations over here and we started
getting the evergrand fear and this is
over here what i really call the ever
grand contagion for cryptocurrencies and
i believe that crypto is sort of a
barometer for the madness that's going
on in china although i don't want to say
that it's the only barometer or that
evergrand is somehow so powerful that it
can solely controls the pricing of
crypto that's not what i'm saying but i
do believe that crypto sells down on bad
news especially regarding the potential
of tether holding uh evergrand uh bonds
which we've heard that tether say they
don't uh so anyway so we've seen with
fear in the markets crypto sell down and
that similar fear that we get anytime
there's sort of fear uncertainty and
doubt or any kind of new negative
publication about evergreen is something
that we do see so on the 24th we saw
sell downs here and we've seen sell
downs here on monday and tuesday as well
in crypto today was when we had that
bond payment that was missed again or
likely missed and again we saw some of
the lows bitcoin around 41 200 but we're
starting to see this inflection point up
again at the same point as we're
starting to see this inflection point up
in the stock now no guarantees that this
little inflection point here is anything
special it's just worth noting that
we're starting to see crypto move up at
the same time as we're seeing the
inflection points in
three three three three and six six six
six again the stock is down five point
one percent today so some fluctuations
here are expected but again up twenty
eight percent from the dip here right uh
and up twenty 23 on the ev dip now for
evergrand but let's do another thing
because i mentioned
after the stock and crypto after that we
would talk about real estate in china a
little harder to measure real estate
prices in china so we're going to skip
that one and instead what we're going to
do is we're going to look at the 10-year
treasury trend let's take a look at the
10-year treasury the 10-year treasury we
want to get yields so 10-year treasury
yield not the actual bond pricing
let's go over here to the yield so take
a look at today which was supposed to be
a nervous day with that missed payment
we actually had treasuries trade flat so
even though we had this fear see right
around here when crypto declined and
right around the time we started seeing
some of those so those low super low
stock prices at evergreen we started
seeing treasury yields in the united
states skyrocket but they've stopped
they've stopped skyrocketing in fact
while we hit a high intraday of about
1.56 right now we sit around 1.51
remember that has implications for the
u.s real estate and mortgage market now
what about the fact that we are seeing
some funds circulate about the potential
for blackrock having of 20 or plus
percent or or you have a potentially 20
stake exposed to evergrand and that
really this contagion is just beginning
well this is where we actually have to
do a little bit of investigative work
and dismantle a little bit of fun that's
going around because what we're seeing
so far just sort of a signpost
checkpoint so far it looks like we're
starting to see some positive inflection
points that the market's going to have
enough cash repo markets have plenty of
money banks have plenty of liquidity
banks are stress tested hard enough and
it looks like so far we are inflecting
but markets are still going to trade on
fear now i've broken down how we're
starting to see some inflection points
and who knows could be the classic dead
cat bounce right where we get an
inflection point and really the real
peak fear is ahead of us but folks
whatever i've been saying even this
weekend i made a video and you can go
check this yourself fact check me please
i made a video that got 229 000 views
it's called the ever grant crisis stocks
and crypto sell off
that video
at about 12 minutes into the video i say
i do not see this being a systemic risk
i think this is going to create a dip
and that is a dip that we're going to
want to buy and i've been putting my
money where my mouth is i've been buying
that dip but wait a minute why is there
fud going around suggesting that maybe
blackrock has one-fifth of its assets
exposed to chinese real estate in fact
somebody sent me this and i was really
sussed out by this i thought there's no
way was my immediate reaction and i
found this particular article that they
referenced here it is it literally says
the blackrock fund has a fifth of its
assets exposed to china's real estate
sector and nearly a third of its
portfolio holds high yield debt also
known as junk bonds oh my gosh that
sounds really bad like if blackrock one
of the largest investment advisors in
the world has a fifth of its assets
exposed to chinese real estate well that
must be really really bad because that
could spell big trouble in the united
states right
too bad it's wrong it's blatant
misinformation because the person who or
at least the people who are circulating
this have misread unfortunately the
article that they are reading and so
let's break down how there's
misinformation circulating about black
rocks holdings uh in evergrand and
blackrock's holdings that are exposed to
chinese real estate so let's go into
that detail it's worth knowing this kind
of detail because fud spreads so much
faster than fact and it takes me so much
longer to dismantle the madness and
insanity that sometimes circulates like
wildfire but that's why you subscribe to
this channel so the screenshot and
misinformation actually comes from this
article in this particular website here
it's financial review afr.com blackrock
fidelity funds suffer exodus on
evergrand fears and what this article
refers to where it says that blackrock
the black literally says the blackrock
fund uh there it is the blackrock fund
has one-fifth of its assets exposed to
chinese real estate oh my gosh but it's
the biggest investment advisor in in the
united states it's got 9.5 trillion
dollars under assets that's so big and
fidelity is the other big one which they
also talk the fidelity fund oh my gosh
includes uh some of its largest holdings
in china's real estate companies oh my
gosh fidelity's got 4.2 trillion under
management these are huge funds and if
they're exposed to chinese real estate
then then america's institutions and
their investments are going to plummet
everything's going to crash that's kind
of when when you misread articles like
the walk away impression and i think
that's why those videos get shared but
it's wrong because this article doesn't
talk about blackrock in total it doesn't
talk about
fidelity in total it talks about these
specific funds like the fidelity china
high-yield
fund or in the case of blackrock it
talks specifically about the blackrock
gold global funds china bond uh fund
so in other words
this article saying that a fifth of
black rock assets are exposed to china's
real estate sector is not blackrock in
total it's just this fund this
particular fund has uh 9.2 billion
dollars under management that's all
that's a good amount it's 9.2 billion
dollars but it's a far cry from 9.5
trillion dollars that blackrock has
under management which if i multiply
this by 100 to get a percentage we are
talking about 0.09
of blackrock's assets under management
are in this chinese fund that block rock
has this chinese high-yield fund and of
that 25
is exposed to china's real estate like
is a drop in the bucket
and if you zoom out even more and you're
like okay well how much does blackrock
have invested into evergren like one
percent of their assets it's a drop in
the bucket
the same thing is true of fidelity
fidelity has 4.2 trillion dollars in
assets under management
but uh in their fund uh hold on 4.2
trillion there we go in their fund they
only have 2.4 billion which means 0.057
of fidelity's money is actually in the
fund
in this junk bond fund that this article
is talking about so somebody basically
took an article
about a fraction of one percent of
blackrock and fidelity's holdings and
turned it into a misinformation video to
spread fear uncertainty and doubt in the
united states about the united states
market and it was really a
misunderstanding of the article itself
just to show you an example here's one
of the marketing brochures on this high
yield fund and uh it's got a 1.2
management fee you can see here the fund
size 2.4 billion dollars you've got here
it's fidelity funds china's high yield
fund yay and if you scroll over here you
can actually see what the top 10
holdings are and that yeah look it's a
china fund it makes sense it's got 61
exposed to china i'm surprised it's not
all like it's not 100 china and you
might ask well why do people invest in
this kind of stuff it's because the
yield is 6.9 so people are like yay i
get a lot of dividends but i'm investing
in garbage in fact you can like the
disclosure literally tells you you're
investing in garbage look credit rating
exposure triple a bonds nah we don't
want any of those how about double a
bonds nah how about a bonds okay two
percent how about bbb bonds triple b
rated bonds sure two percent how about
bb bonds yeah now we're in junk bonds
sure 34 exposure to those b bonds yeah
we'll take 37 of those too you're
literally investing in junk bonds like
just for giggles here's what junk bond
means anything under triple b rated is
considered
junk so if it's less than a capital b b
b
or a capital b a a then it's junk and
what you'll notice here is if you go to
the pamphlet bbb or baa
2
everything below that is junk
and that's where most of the money is
invested is in junk that's the risk you
take when you invest in junk
this is not somehow suggesting that
bankrupt is about or a blackrock is
about to go bankrupt
that's a total misunderstanding and a
misread of a silly article that really
nobody should be talking about
so anyway you have to be careful with
some of the fud that spreads but my
bottom line stays consistent i believe
the evergrant crisis overall is
overblown in terms of its global
contagion implications uh and and this
is really just based on me looking for
inflection points i'm not trying to
trust jerome powell or
christine lagod over at the ecb
but i will say
these inflection points could could
shift they could shift back to the
downside in the meantime i'm going to
keep doing research i'll keep sharing
and breaking apart fud if i see it i'll
also correct misinformation if i see it
and in the meantime
i hope you buy the dip on on things that
are not ever grand
uh although hey maybe uh maybe it's uh
by the dip opportunity if you had like
an insanely high risk tolerance just for
giggles also
know that you could look up what
blackrock is exposed to you can look up
their 13f filing and you could literally
see about but i think we want to say
about 3.7 trillion dollars of their
investment assets are over here in
stocks and you can google this stuff so
just google uh 13f blackrock filing if
you want to go through here and see how
much apple or microsoft or amazon or
tesla or whatever they own you could do
that all right folks thanks so much for
watching this video if you liked it make
sure to subscribe and we'll see in the
next one goodbye
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