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How Bad will the Market Crash | Evergrande Disaster.

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hey everyone kevin here in this video

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we're going to talk about how bad ever

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grants crisis will be we'll talk about

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reactions in the market and in

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cryptocurrency and cryptocurrency is

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actually going to help us a lot here the

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reason i say this is first i ran through

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a thought experiment earlier in the

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course member live stream we talked

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about what could the potential worst

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case scenario be in the evergrand crisis

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and so in this video what i'm going to

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do is i'm going to go through my

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envisioning of what could potentially be

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the worst case scenario for the

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evergreen crisis then i'm going to talk

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about some inflection points happening

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in the market right now then we're going

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to talk about what i actually think in

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terms of how bad the ever grant crisis

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will be now i could be wrong this is of

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course just my opinion but let's get

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right into it okay folks so the first

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thing that we did in the thought

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experiment is we came to the conclusion

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that in an evergrand style collapse the

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very first thing that's likely to happen

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is that bond prices for evergrants

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company would collapse and evergrants

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stock price would collapse we'll take a

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look at those in just a moment and we'll

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look for inflection points then we would

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expect real estate prices in china to

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collapse and we would expect to see an

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inflection point to the upside or

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downside depending on how bad things

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actually end up getting

1:14

then we would expect to see bond yields

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go up not just in china because remember

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when people sell bonds their price goes

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down more sellers drive prices down

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which pushes yields up we'd expect to

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see see yields go up and i specifically

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want to track the u.s market because

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there are a lot of individuals in china

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who invest in u.s dollar denominated

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debt and so a sell-off in bonds will

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lead to rates going up where yields

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going up in the united states as well

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that has the effect essentially of

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increasing mortgage interest rates in

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the united states and we know that real

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estate is linked to mortgage interest

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rates to the point where if interest

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rates fall one percent or sorry go up

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one percent home prices could fall about

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10 percent you've got about that one to

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10 connection there and this could

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really affect u.s real estate prices and

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when real estate prices in the united

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states start coming down we often see

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stock prices also start coming down and

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lately we've seen stocks the company

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like zillow open door and redfin start

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coming down which some are speculating

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is almost the stock market potentially

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trying to predict

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a fall in real estate prices but is that

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related to the ever grant crisis well

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let's take all of this apart because

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we've heard a lot of things about the

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ever evergreen crisis the best thing to

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do is just get right into it and follow

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the updates so first we know that

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evergrand likely missed a 45.2 million

2:43

dollar interest payment just an interest

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payment can you imagine that having a 45

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million dollar payments like a 45

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million dollar mortgage to make and you

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missed the freaking payment your credit

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score probably going down but don't

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worry evergrant's credit score is

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already junk this by the way comes after

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the fact that evergrand missed a payment

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actually missed two payments last monday

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missed a payment last thursday or likely

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missed a payment last thursday just like

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this one

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evergrand last thursday said they sent

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the payment but we never got evidence

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that it was actually sent and we never

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got evidence that the money was actually

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received so that's why we say it was

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likely missed but what's interesting is

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how certain things are reacting in the

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market so remember how i said the first

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thing we would expect to see is a

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movement in the stock price

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well take a look at this when we hop on

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over to the stock price right here we go

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to a year to date decline of about 79

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percent

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and while there are fluctuations on the

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minute minute hour to hour take a look

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at how evergrand stock has actually

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essentially bottomed out around

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september 21st which is where we had a

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little bit more of peak fear in fact

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let's go ahead and zoom into that a

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little bit let's go into the one month

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here and even though we have

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fluctuations on the up and the downside

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and we want to be careful for a

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potential double dip usually the big

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first inflection point is one we really

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want to pay attention to it's kind of

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like in the covid recession our markets

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sort of hit bottom on march 23rd and

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again on april 3rd but the april 3rd

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bottom was a little more shallow than

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the march 23rd bottom in 2022 and then

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we took off from there and so this is

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something in my opinion i'm going to be

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paying attention to the fact that we

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just got an inflection point in

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3333.hk that's the stock ticker symbol

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the easiest way to do is just type into

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google

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3333.hk or if you type it into the url

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bar type the word google first because

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otherwise it tries to take you to some

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weird website

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we could also do this with

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6666 this is a china's china evergreens

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ev group let's take a look at this one

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so take a look at this one this is the

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group here and if we go to

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year to date to start with we're down

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about 41 but take a look at that

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similar inflection point where from the

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bottom here we've actually seen about a

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23 percent rise i suppose it's also

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worth looking at that here let's go from

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the bottom we've seen about a 28 rise so

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we've started to actually see an

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inflection point in the price of the

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stock that's despite the fact that again

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today we missed another

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debt payment or in china's case that'd

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be yesterday

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then let's do this the next thing i

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talked about was crypto we'll take a

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look at coin market cap and i really

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like using crypto as a catalyst tool for

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understanding what's going on with uh

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with with china because china while it's

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always made headlines for crackdowns

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china has some of and has historically

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had some of the top 10 volumes for

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crypto some citizens have in the past

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moved closer to power plants to profit

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from cheap electricity so they can mine

5:55

electricity you've got a lot of hodlers

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in china china is one of the top 10

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hodler countries in fact i think it's

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almost top five

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and even though you've got a lot of this

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drama going on with again china banning

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crypto transactions or financial

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institutions from working with crypto

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you've got a lot of crypto investors and

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hodlers in china and so when we see

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sell-offs in crypto pricing sometimes in

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my opinion that could be a sign of

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stress related to china such as the

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evergreen crisis that's why i said that

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crypto could fall under the evergreen

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crisis and that's why i've been saying

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that for over a week and a half now to

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two weeks as we've been covering the

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evergreen crisis we're also seeing some

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money flow into decentralized exchanges

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which makes a lot of sense that we would

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get away from centralized finance to

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sort of still be able to invest in

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cryptocurrencies

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in china but what's more important is

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the signal right now of cryptocurrencies

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for this ever grant crisis so what we're

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going to do here is we're going to go to

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the trading view history here and we're

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going to look at the day chart and uh

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take a look at the day chart here for

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bitcoin the evergrand crisis really came

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to light closer to the the third and

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fourth week of september where we are

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now and we really had a pain day for

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crypto here on the 20th where we really

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sold down and we had another pain day on

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the 24th and again here in the last

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couple days or about three to four days

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ago we also had pain days these were

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these were larger sell-off days it's

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easier to look at this on the one hour

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candlestick so let's go ahead and do

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that we're going to jump on over to the

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one hour candlestick

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and you can see here this is a september

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7th sell-off we had a lot of crypto

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liquidations over here and we started

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getting the evergrand fear and this is

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over here what i really call the ever

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grand contagion for cryptocurrencies and

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i believe that crypto is sort of a

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barometer for the madness that's going

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on in china although i don't want to say

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that it's the only barometer or that

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evergrand is somehow so powerful that it

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can solely controls the pricing of

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crypto that's not what i'm saying but i

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do believe that crypto sells down on bad

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news especially regarding the potential

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of tether holding uh evergrand uh bonds

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which we've heard that tether say they

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don't uh so anyway so we've seen with

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fear in the markets crypto sell down and

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that similar fear that we get anytime

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there's sort of fear uncertainty and

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doubt or any kind of new negative

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publication about evergreen is something

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that we do see so on the 24th we saw

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sell downs here and we've seen sell

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downs here on monday and tuesday as well

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in crypto today was when we had that

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bond payment that was missed again or

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likely missed and again we saw some of

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the lows bitcoin around 41 200 but we're

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starting to see this inflection point up

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again at the same point as we're

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starting to see this inflection point up

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in the stock now no guarantees that this

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little inflection point here is anything

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special it's just worth noting that

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we're starting to see crypto move up at

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the same time as we're seeing the

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inflection points in

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three three three three and six six six

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six again the stock is down five point

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one percent today so some fluctuations

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here are expected but again up twenty

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eight percent from the dip here right uh

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and up twenty 23 on the ev dip now for

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evergrand but let's do another thing

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because i mentioned

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after the stock and crypto after that we

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would talk about real estate in china a

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little harder to measure real estate

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prices in china so we're going to skip

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that one and instead what we're going to

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do is we're going to look at the 10-year

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treasury trend let's take a look at the

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10-year treasury the 10-year treasury we

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want to get yields so 10-year treasury

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yield not the actual bond pricing

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let's go over here to the yield so take

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a look at today which was supposed to be

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a nervous day with that missed payment

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we actually had treasuries trade flat so

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even though we had this fear see right

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around here when crypto declined and

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right around the time we started seeing

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some of those so those low super low

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stock prices at evergreen we started

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seeing treasury yields in the united

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states skyrocket but they've stopped

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they've stopped skyrocketing in fact

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while we hit a high intraday of about

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1.56 right now we sit around 1.51

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remember that has implications for the

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u.s real estate and mortgage market now

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what about the fact that we are seeing

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some funds circulate about the potential

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for blackrock having of 20 or plus

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percent or or you have a potentially 20

10:23

stake exposed to evergrand and that

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really this contagion is just beginning

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well this is where we actually have to

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do a little bit of investigative work

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and dismantle a little bit of fun that's

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going around because what we're seeing

10:35

so far just sort of a signpost

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checkpoint so far it looks like we're

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starting to see some positive inflection

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points that the market's going to have

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enough cash repo markets have plenty of

10:46

money banks have plenty of liquidity

10:48

banks are stress tested hard enough and

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it looks like so far we are inflecting

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but markets are still going to trade on

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fear now i've broken down how we're

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starting to see some inflection points

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and who knows could be the classic dead

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cat bounce right where we get an

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inflection point and really the real

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peak fear is ahead of us but folks

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whatever i've been saying even this

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weekend i made a video and you can go

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check this yourself fact check me please

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i made a video that got 229 000 views

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it's called the ever grant crisis stocks

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and crypto sell off

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that video

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at about 12 minutes into the video i say

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i do not see this being a systemic risk

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i think this is going to create a dip

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and that is a dip that we're going to

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want to buy and i've been putting my

11:33

money where my mouth is i've been buying

11:34

that dip but wait a minute why is there

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fud going around suggesting that maybe

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blackrock has one-fifth of its assets

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exposed to chinese real estate in fact

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somebody sent me this and i was really

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sussed out by this i thought there's no

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way was my immediate reaction and i

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found this particular article that they

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referenced here it is it literally says

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the blackrock fund has a fifth of its

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assets exposed to china's real estate

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sector and nearly a third of its

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portfolio holds high yield debt also

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known as junk bonds oh my gosh that

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sounds really bad like if blackrock one

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of the largest investment advisors in

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the world has a fifth of its assets

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exposed to chinese real estate well that

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must be really really bad because that

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could spell big trouble in the united

12:20

states right

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too bad it's wrong it's blatant

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misinformation because the person who or

12:28

at least the people who are circulating

12:30

this have misread unfortunately the

12:33

article that they are reading and so

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let's break down how there's

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misinformation circulating about black

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rocks holdings uh in evergrand and

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blackrock's holdings that are exposed to

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chinese real estate so let's go into

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that detail it's worth knowing this kind

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of detail because fud spreads so much

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faster than fact and it takes me so much

12:55

longer to dismantle the madness and

12:57

insanity that sometimes circulates like

12:59

wildfire but that's why you subscribe to

13:01

this channel so the screenshot and

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misinformation actually comes from this

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article in this particular website here

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it's financial review afr.com blackrock

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fidelity funds suffer exodus on

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evergrand fears and what this article

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refers to where it says that blackrock

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the black literally says the blackrock

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fund uh there it is the blackrock fund

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has one-fifth of its assets exposed to

13:23

chinese real estate oh my gosh but it's

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the biggest investment advisor in in the

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united states it's got 9.5 trillion

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dollars under assets that's so big and

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fidelity is the other big one which they

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also talk the fidelity fund oh my gosh

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includes uh some of its largest holdings

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in china's real estate companies oh my

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gosh fidelity's got 4.2 trillion under

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management these are huge funds and if

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they're exposed to chinese real estate

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then then america's institutions and

13:53

their investments are going to plummet

13:55

everything's going to crash that's kind

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of when when you misread articles like

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the walk away impression and i think

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that's why those videos get shared but

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it's wrong because this article doesn't

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talk about blackrock in total it doesn't

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talk about

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fidelity in total it talks about these

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specific funds like the fidelity china

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high-yield

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fund or in the case of blackrock it

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talks specifically about the blackrock

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gold global funds china bond uh fund

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so in other words

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this article saying that a fifth of

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black rock assets are exposed to china's

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real estate sector is not blackrock in

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total it's just this fund this

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particular fund has uh 9.2 billion

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dollars under management that's all

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that's a good amount it's 9.2 billion

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dollars but it's a far cry from 9.5

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trillion dollars that blackrock has

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under management which if i multiply

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this by 100 to get a percentage we are

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talking about 0.09

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of blackrock's assets under management

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are in this chinese fund that block rock

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has this chinese high-yield fund and of

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that 25

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is exposed to china's real estate like

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is a drop in the bucket

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and if you zoom out even more and you're

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like okay well how much does blackrock

15:15

have invested into evergren like one

15:17

percent of their assets it's a drop in

15:20

the bucket

15:21

the same thing is true of fidelity

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fidelity has 4.2 trillion dollars in

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assets under management

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but uh in their fund uh hold on 4.2

15:31

trillion there we go in their fund they

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only have 2.4 billion which means 0.057

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of fidelity's money is actually in the

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fund

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in this junk bond fund that this article

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is talking about so somebody basically

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took an article

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about a fraction of one percent of

15:52

blackrock and fidelity's holdings and

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turned it into a misinformation video to

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spread fear uncertainty and doubt in the

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united states about the united states

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market and it was really a

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misunderstanding of the article itself

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just to show you an example here's one

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of the marketing brochures on this high

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yield fund and uh it's got a 1.2

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management fee you can see here the fund

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size 2.4 billion dollars you've got here

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it's fidelity funds china's high yield

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fund yay and if you scroll over here you

16:27

can actually see what the top 10

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holdings are and that yeah look it's a

16:30

china fund it makes sense it's got 61

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exposed to china i'm surprised it's not

16:36

all like it's not 100 china and you

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might ask well why do people invest in

16:40

this kind of stuff it's because the

16:42

yield is 6.9 so people are like yay i

16:45

get a lot of dividends but i'm investing

16:48

in garbage in fact you can like the

16:51

disclosure literally tells you you're

16:53

investing in garbage look credit rating

16:56

exposure triple a bonds nah we don't

16:58

want any of those how about double a

17:00

bonds nah how about a bonds okay two

17:03

percent how about bbb bonds triple b

17:05

rated bonds sure two percent how about

17:06

bb bonds yeah now we're in junk bonds

17:09

sure 34 exposure to those b bonds yeah

17:12

we'll take 37 of those too you're

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literally investing in junk bonds like

17:17

just for giggles here's what junk bond

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means anything under triple b rated is

17:23

considered

17:24

junk so if it's less than a capital b b

17:28

b

17:28

or a capital b a a then it's junk and

17:33

what you'll notice here is if you go to

17:35

the pamphlet bbb or baa

17:38

2

17:40

everything below that is junk

17:42

and that's where most of the money is

17:43

invested is in junk that's the risk you

17:47

take when you invest in junk

17:49

this is not somehow suggesting that

17:51

bankrupt is about or a blackrock is

17:53

about to go bankrupt

17:55

that's a total misunderstanding and a

17:56

misread of a silly article that really

17:59

nobody should be talking about

18:01

so anyway you have to be careful with

18:03

some of the fud that spreads but my

18:05

bottom line stays consistent i believe

18:08

the evergrant crisis overall is

18:10

overblown in terms of its global

18:13

contagion implications uh and and this

18:16

is really just based on me looking for

18:17

inflection points i'm not trying to

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trust jerome powell or

18:20

christine lagod over at the ecb

18:23

but i will say

18:25

these inflection points could could

18:27

shift they could shift back to the

18:28

downside in the meantime i'm going to

18:29

keep doing research i'll keep sharing

18:31

and breaking apart fud if i see it i'll

18:34

also correct misinformation if i see it

18:36

and in the meantime

18:38

i hope you buy the dip on on things that

18:41

are not ever grand

18:43

uh although hey maybe uh maybe it's uh

18:45

by the dip opportunity if you had like

18:47

an insanely high risk tolerance just for

18:49

giggles also

18:51

know that you could look up what

18:52

blackrock is exposed to you can look up

18:54

their 13f filing and you could literally

18:57

see about but i think we want to say

18:58

about 3.7 trillion dollars of their

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investment assets are over here in

19:02

stocks and you can google this stuff so

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just google uh 13f blackrock filing if

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you want to go through here and see how

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much apple or microsoft or amazon or

19:11

tesla or whatever they own you could do

19:13

that all right folks thanks so much for

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watching this video if you liked it make

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sure to subscribe and we'll see in the

19:18

next one goodbye

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