this is hard
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Now, I've got to tell a little story,
but it's a story that hit me pretty hard
yesterday. So, yesterday, where was I?
Oh, that's right. Yesterday, I uh I went
shooting. See, I have a little leftover
bullet here from the range. So, I went
shooting. I went to an outdoor range in
a mining query, and I had this small uh
group uh lesson, and uh we go out to a
mining quarry. It's really cool. And uh
the weather was amazing. It's out here
in California. And I was with these two
dudes. Uh they almost looked like they
could have both been cops, but I think
one was like a surgeon and and the other
was uh like a massive like nationwide uh
contractor, like an electrical
contractor. It was really really cool.
These guys, they were so nice and and
they were really insightful. But I'll
tell you, I spent a lot of time while I
was there relatively quiet because it
was me, them two, and and the instructor
uh the instructors, we'll say. And uh
what was really eyeopening to me and and
it was almost like chilling, like bone
chilling to me. It was it was really
scary. Uh it was probably honestly one
of the saddest things I've heard in my
life or or maybe even like dare I say
the scariest thing in my life. So we get
in the sprinter van and what is this? A
9 mil? This is a 40 hollow right here.
Um anyway, all right. So saddest thing.
So, uh, I'm I I get in the van and the
entire ride of them who are probably
like 65, both of them are like, "Yeah,
so and so just passed away from cancer."
And the other one's like, "Oh, I'm
sorry." And then, you know, then he's
like, "My wife just had a stroke and you
know, she's recovering." And then the
other guy's like, "I just got over
prostate cancer." And and oh, my wife,
you know, she's she's going through
chemo. She thought she was going to be
done. She's on round 11 out of 15 of
chemo. Lost like 20 pounds and and she's
like, "I'm I'm almost through. I've I've
almost made it." And now the doctor's
like, "We're going to have to keep
going." And and these people, they're
like, you know, the the the wife and the
husband, one of them, they're surgeons.
And uh you know, one of the things they
said hit me so hard. They're like,
"Did you think we would work for 40
years
just to have our retirement be spent
like this?" And what they were saying
was, "Did you think we would go to
basically med school for 12 years and
then be surgeons for 10 years and and
work their ass off, you know, basically
for a combined 40 years to finally have
the freedom of retirement only to be
dealing with the hell of of basically
age and ailments and and uh whether it's
a lack of energy or cancer recoveries or
the inability to travel because of
treatments or or friends and family
dying or all this like craziness. And
I'm just like, this is like literally
the saddest place I could be right now.
But it was actually probably the best
place to be because I'm 31. And it hit
me really hard because I'm like, damn.
You know, that that goes to show that
like you should do whatever you can and
not say no to experiences in your life
when you can have the experiences. You
know, I think so many of us, especially
in the financial community, uh we we get
so like tight sometimes with money. It's
like, "No, no, no. I I don't want to
spend money on that. I want to save
because I want my investments to grow."
But really, what you're doing when
you're constantly saving for retirement
is you're borrowing from today to give
to an uncertain future. And that's
really scary. That's really scary. And
it's real life, you know, but it's it's
scary. And and so my thinking, you know,
the wakeup call to me has been and and
I' I've felt this way probably more for
like the last year, maybe since I turned
30, uh is is this idea of like, hey, you
got to make sure that you take advantage
of all the experiences that you can
because the future's uncertain and you
want to get in whatever you can now. if
you have the energy to have fun and and
uh you know work hard but play hard, do
it. And I think that's something that
I've always really lived by is the idea
of it's okay to work hard. Like I'm not
saying don't grind. I'm not saying don't
invest. I'm not saying don't, you know,
work overtime. I'm okay with that. Like
I work a lot. Uh, I probably I you know
I I would guess I I work somewhere
around a 100 hours a week and just like
it's always work and maybe there's 15
hours on a regular week for family,
right? That's like a couple hours a day.
It's not a lot. It's mostly just work
work work and that's because I've got
three different jobs. Uh, you know, it's
running an ETF, the financial advising
side, the the real estate startup,
YouTube and social media and and
coordinating teams around that. It's
It's a lot of work, but I'm also willing
to make sure that when I travel with
family, we have a blast. I mean, I have
to say, I just went to uh what was it?
Um Deer Valley. I actually briefly went
skiing with Ross, but I had a blast
skiing with my 5-year-old, my
seven-year-old, my wife, and we had a
great time. You know, you're going in
the pool and the spa when it's like
freezing outside, but but you know, it's
all just fogged up because uh uh because
they keep the the water temperature so
hot. uh everything looks like it's
steaming, just water vapor. It's not
actually steam. But anyway, it's uh you
know, those are the sort of experiences
that that you want to share with the
people around you that you love and care
about and friends and family. And so, I
think it's really good, even though
we're always talking about finance to
remember like not everything in your
life has to be you taking the back seat
uh to to really good experiences because
you're trying to save a few extra bucks.
Like personally, I cringe when people
are like, "Oh, no. I don't want to spend
money on like a Starbucks. I just It
makes me want to vomit. I'm like,
really? You think so little of yourself
that you can't work a little harder to
make that up? Or like, really? You're
going to go to to I don't know, Disney
World and you're not going to pay for
the the the fast tickets or whatever
they call them. Uh like really, you're
going to you're going to spend your time
in in the line if if you have the
ability to afford it? Like, what are you
doing? Your time is so valuable. And I
think that that experience of when I
went shooting with the folks, it really
made me realize like, wow, you know, you
got to double down on making sure you're
taking those moments and those
experiences because you don't know how
long you're going to be able to anymore.
I mean, we when we did uh like running
shooting drills, one of the guys, he
couldn't do them. And he's like, I I'm
going to sit out the the running
shooting drills. And I'm like, what the
hell? I didn't say that obviously, but
I'm just thinking to myself like I don't
want to be 65 and then be like, "Oh, I
got to sit out the running shooting
drills cuz I can't run." I'm like, "That
sucks." Uh, you know, like I don't know.
I I It's It was um it I don't know. It
hit me pretty hard. It was just this uh
pretty wild uh sort of wakeup call. I
think that line was so impactful
uh about not only them talking about all
these people dying, which is obviously
terrible, and all these people having
these ailments, but also just the line
of did you imagine we'd work our whole
lives just to spend our retirement like
this. AND IT'S LIKE AH because what do
you have in retirement? A number, right?
You have a number. A number and
yourself. That's what you have when you
retire. Yourself and a number. And like
you have to be able to do something with
that number. Whether it's $5 million, a
million dollar, 10 million, hundred
million, you have to be able to function
and do something. If you can't, it's
like what was the point?
So, uh, so have some fun as you go
through the journey. My father-in-law
always calls it the journey. Like you
you you you don't want to you don't want
to be the person and I'm guilty of this
too where like you get in the car to go
on a road trip and you're so focused on
like getting there that you're missing
the fun of like stopping at that funky
gas station in the middle of nowhere
like the the entertainment that happens
along the way cuz you're so anxious to
get to the destination. The problem is
if you're so anxious to get to the
destination, well, the destination, put
it this way, the destination life ain't
that great. Like where you're going is
like game over, right? But don't I have
a sound clip of this here?
Game over.
Yeah. Like that's the destination. So,
so you got to enjoy the ups and downs.
You know, the
lead
and these
lost the lead
and you know, a little bit of
manipulation along the way.
Check out the programs on building
wealth link down below. I have to do
that right after. you know, it's a age
of empires. Anyway, that was pretty
impactful to me. And and then, you know,
then there's just like unfairness that
happens. I mean, then you see people
that, you know, it's terrible, but there
are people who are in their I know
somebody right now, actually, a good
friend of mine, his wife's got cancer
and she's like 24 and I'm like, what the
hell? Like, that's not even fair. That's
just that's just wrong, you know? And
like three kids. It's just it's just
it's so sad. It's so terrible. So, um
you know. So anyway, I don't know. Um
hopefully you could you could enjoy uh
life out there as as much as you can. Um
you know, go go have fun. Don't don't
take yourself too seriously. I think
probably the biggest lesson that I've
always learned is um
you know, probably the biggest lesson I
would say is life is all about two steps
forward, one step back. But you kind of
have to look at those one step backs as
just part of the game. Like I think
sometimes we get so frustrated like ah
it feels like I'm always getting set
back. It's like that's part of the game
man. Like you got to play the game and
and enjoy that. Uh
so somebody here says one should stop
drinking alcohol if they want to have a
productive last 20 years. Yeah. I don't
know. I mean I I pretty much am totally
off alcohol. Uh, which is I've actually
inspired my dad as well to stop drinking
alcohol. He's
How old is he now? 40. He's coming up on
71. Uh, that's probably pretty good.
Somebody here writes, "Doge from the
future. If you appreciate these morning
meetings, send a couple B." Oh, well,
thank you. I appreciate that. That's
really nice of you to say. In the old
days, the husband was the hunter for
food, but in modern times, the husband
is the hunter for our family. The hunter
is for uh Tammy saying that here. Uh, I
think that's where the talk about
priorities, but Kevin, we need
[laughter] I mean, I'm not going
anywhere. Like, don't get me wrong, like
I'm not I'm not saying don't work,
right? I want to be very clear about
that. I'm not saying don't work. Uh, I'm
just saying like work hard, but then
also have fun. Uh, like go do something.
Like, let me put it this way, okay? So,
so last year, okay, I'll give you a
little bit more background here. This is
I think this might be interesting. So in
in 2021, I was thinking about creating a
stock brokerage. It was going to be a
combination between uh probably M1
Finance and Weeble, something like in
the middle. And we were going to do like
automatic wheeling of options and and
there's some really cool things. The
problem is when we're in discussions
with both FINRA and Apex as well as some
other institutions and and uh market
makers, we're realizing there's no money
to be made in the stock brokerage
business. I don't like starting
businesses that can't make any money.
Like yesterday I was thinking about I
was researching you know credit cards
backed by home equity and I found a
company that I I won't reveal but I
basically think is a fraud and I think
they're a fraud because they have so
little demand. I don't think there's
money to be made in that because I don't
think homeowners care about credit cards
secured to their home equity. I think
they're like hell no my home equity is
sacred. Like f off. So so if there's no
money to be made in something I'm not
going to do it. So, uh, for example, on
this idea of starting a stock brokerage,
we, uh, after my campaign for governor
in 21, we we were in that idea for about
two and a half months, and we killed the
idea because a, we saw an inflection, a
massive inflection in the market. That's
back when I shorted RK at like a hundred
bucks. And we saw a massive inflection
in the market. It we figured it would be
near impossible to get people to sign up
for a brokerage in a bad market. So, we
killed that idea. Like a month later, lo
and behold, Sam Bankman Freed's on CNBC
getting interviewed by Becky Quick
talking about how he wants to create a
stock brokerage. Now, in hindsight,
we're like, "Of course, that fraud
wanted to find more ways to attract
capital." But Becky Quick, she's like,
"Hey, well, how are you going to make
money in a stock brokerage?" And he's
like, "Oh, we're not. It's a lost
leader." And it's like, "Well, good
thing we didn't go down that road. I
mean, we figured that out ourselves,
right? uh but I don't want to do
businesses that don't make money. So in
2022 instead uh I I launched businesses
that I think have have very real
potential in the long term to make a a
great deal of money. I mean no
guarantees but I mean think about what I
did in 2022. I launched an ETF which I
think is a phenomenal uh financial
product and uh you learn more about it
at meet.com. Uh, I launched a real
estate startup, which I think is going
to make a lot of money. And I didn't do
that because I wanted to work less,
right? I did it because I got to ring
the bell at the New York Stock Exchange.
I get to do a startup. I get to employ a
lot of people and share the visions that
I have for for both stocks and real
estate with millions of people. Like,
that's exciting to me. But that
excitement also helps me unlock
excitement just in in regular life.
whether it's it's you know going
paintballing with the team or or
whatever like actually again work hard
play hard. Uh obviously I also I bought
a plane in 2022 which uh was really
phenomenal because it's basically free
for the first year which is amazing uh
thanks to the tax benefits but uh you
know a lot of people look at that
they're like oh you're just trying to
finance the lifestyle. If you look, it's
like if anything that that thing has
made me work a lot harder uh because I I
travel for work so much. But the beauty
about it is it really has enabled me to
be very very quick. I could get a lot
done very quickly. Uh for example, I
I'll give you an example here. We did
some math. Uh so I I'll give you some PJ
math. Okay. Now, some people are like,
"Oh, Kevin, you're just trying to
justify the I don't have to justify jack
to anybody." Like, plain is mine. I
don't have to justify anything to
anyone. Uh, but we did did some uh quick
math which I think would be very
interesting to people. So, where did I
write it down? Uh
uh I have it written down on one of
these notepads. I'm going to find it.
But basically uh what we did is uh as a
as sort of a Did anybody watch the
original Apprentice where you kind of
get assigned a task and then you have to
compete against other people to see how
they do? Well, I just did that with uh
with with four employees because so I've
probably traveled I think we're at
somewhere around 100 flights already for
the year. 98 of them are probably work
uh related. Maybe two aren't. But
anyway, so out of 98 flights for the
year, I've gotten to a lot of places and
I've taught a lot about real estate and
what we're looking for and what we're
doing. And so what I did in sort of an
apprentice style, do I charter my plane?
Hell no. No, dude. That's my pee pee. I
don't want anybody on my pee pee. Uh
anyway, so what I did was this
apprentice style challenge where I
challenged four employees to travel
commercially to two different cities
each and then report back to me. And uh
so uh we went to basically we covered
eight different cities. Two people went
to or or one person went to two cities
times four, right? That's that's
basically eight people. and uh and they
had 7 days to learn everything they can,
meet agents, and basically do what I do
and implement what I do in person and
learn everything they can. And it's
really different when you're just
watching Kevin doing something to
basically getting thrown in the fire pit
and having doing it having to do it
yourself. You actually learn a lot,
right? That's the point. But what I
thought was really interesting is I
compared
how long it would take and how much it
would cost to send one person to two
cities four times over a 7-day period.
And how fast could we do it if I loaded
everybody into my plane and basically I
drove the bus? I don't fly, but I we
basically we did it with me my the Kevin
version. And so here were the results
which was really interesting. So the
results were that uh it took 7 days to
have eight different cities visited.
Uh that means it took uh multiple it
took one day of traveling on each for
each travel day was a full travel day. I
mean like getting to the airport, being
early, Ubering to the airport, checking
in, TSA, waiting, then being bound by
the flight time, then getting to the the
location, checking into the hotel, all
of that, right? It was a 7-day process
because when you compare that to what I
can do with with our plane, it's it's
about 60% faster. I'll give you the
example in just a moment, but we added
everything up and I think the total cost
was about $8,000, maybe $8,500, right?
Right around there, uh, was the total
cost. And what we got basically was one
person saw two cities. And so it worked
out to roughly about $2,000 a person for
7 days, which is actually pretty good. I
mean, some of them were were using
scooters to get around because the goal
was how inexpensively can you do it?
That was the goal. Uh, I mean, we're
talking, you know, $125 hotels, keeping
it as cheap as possible. That's part of
the challenge is like how how efficient
can you be? But some of the plane
tickets are like 700 bucks to go from
California to to Texas right now. It's
like 700 bucks. It's insane. So anyway,
the what we did is we said, "All right,
four people saw eight cities for eight
grand. That works out to $1,000 per
person per city, right?" The problem is
uh one person only experienced two
cities, right? So if one person wanted
to see all of those cities, the costs
would have been a lot more, not so
great. I mean, yeah, you could do double
occupancy in some of the rooms, but
still you'd be traveling. So then what
we realized is, well, what if we took my
plane? And so we looked at the variable
costs of the plane. And if we took my
plane, we could stop in two to three
cities a day. And the reason we can do
that is because we could take off and
land whenever the hell we want. So, we
could take off at 6:00 a.m., land
somewhere at 9:00, have a rental car
there, check out the city properties,
meet agents, on the plane, next city, on
the plane, next city. And we could
probably do that entire 7-day itinerary
in 3 days instead of six nights in two
nights instead of multiple Ubers, a
couple, you know, a few rentals at the
various different places we would go.
And so what we figured is the variable
costs for the plane and Ubers and the
the fewer hotels and fewer dinners and
stuff, we would be able to do the entire
7-day trip in 3 days with two nights
only. It would cost us about
$17,000.
So a little more than twice. So it is
more expensive.
Initially it looks more expensive, but
watch this. A little bit more expensive.
So, let me write this down because I
think it'll be easier to visualize. I
also think it's very interesting. So,
you write it down. So, what did $8,000
get you? Well, $8,000 got you one person
seeing two cities, one person seeing two
cities, one person seeing two cities,
one person seeing two cities, right? And
that took 7 days. That's what about
$8,000 got you. Well, in 3 days, so in
substantially less time, it might cost
$18,000.
But what happened? Now all of a sudden
you could have I would be along, right?
So you could actually have five people
seeing eight cities.
So now all of a sudden if you figure
five people are seeing eight cities.
Take a look at this. 18,000 divided by 8
[clears throat] actually works out to
$2,200.
Oops. Let me do this.
2250
per city divided by five, it would only
cost $450
per city for five people to see all of
these cities. $450 per city. Whereas
over here, people spent $1,000
per city. Now, how much of a mind f is
that? That I think is pretty remarkable.
Now, this doesn't work if only like one
person is traveling, right? And it's
also worth noting that I pay for the
plane myself because it's my plane. I
pay for it. Uh and I don't I don't bill
my real estate startup for my jet. Uh I
pay for it. Uh and I'm going to do that
as long as possible. So what's beautiful
about this though is I realized I go,
"My gosh, we are more than twice as
efficient uh in terms of how fast we
could actually see real estate. We're
more than twice as efficient with this
plane." But on top of that,
more people are able to get to the
places and we're actually able to do
them for a cheaper per city cost because
you can load the plane up with like nine
people. Imagine if there were nine
people instead of five. So, it's really
incredible uh just the efficiency that
you could get out of this. So, I'm these
are the the risks that I've taken in in
2022. And yeah, I mean there there are
cool things that come out of it. You
know, it's obviously fun uh to to do it
that way because it's so much more
effective, but these are just the risks
that I'm that I like taking because a I
think they're good business risks, but
they also combine with the idea of like
life. Like, dude, if I want to see four
cities, do I want to be away from my
family for seven days? Hell no. And
quite frankly, in seven days, the the
people who traveled only saw two cities.
So, if I wanted to see eight cities
commercial, I'd probably be gone for a
month when I could literally see eight
cities in 3 days, [laughter] right? Uh
it's kind of remarkable. So, so tying
that all back to like life to me, uh, I
think I'm making the best possible
business decisions while at the same
time looking at life and being like,
shisa, you know, you you don't want to
you you want to you want to do what you
can to be as efficient as possible so
you could not only run the business as
you want and create the success that
you're trying to create, but you also
want to do it in a way where you're not
miserable doing what you're doing. I
don't think there it would be possible
to do my real estate startup without a
plane because we we have to be places
fast. We can't be beholdened to a
schedule of uh of of commercial air
traffic and we can land pretty much
wherever we want with this sucker. Uh
which is great. We could get into small
airports. We only need a 4,000 ft
runway. That saves a lot of time. So
it's it's really exciting. Any anyway,
so so that's some insight. I want to
look at u some uh uh some of these uh
some of the comments that you all have.
Um, nobody rides my jet. Nobody gets
charged to ride my jet. That doesn't
exist. Uh, actually I think we just one
of us just visited Minneapolis. Uh, so
let's see here.
Kevin Airlines. No. God, no. No, no, no,
no. Time does not equal money. Everybody
has time, but not everybody has money.
Well, I mean, I think that depends on
the situation that you're in, right?
Like personally, uh I when I when I was
broke and I, you know, went to um uh
Jamba or I was working at Jamba Juice, I
would go to all the grocery stores with
a coupon, right? Like today, I'd
probably just use Walmart delivery
because Walmart Plus, it's like free
delivery. It's like why why would you
waste your time doing that?
I don't know why people keep asking
about charters. Uh I don't do charters.
Love the house hack videos. Thank you.
Uh, let's see. Arm and a leg. Just it
travel's annoying, man. It's It's really
difficult. My
your your uh relative lived in a
development with a runway in his
backyard now. That's pretty cool. That's
pretty cool. Yeah, you could you could
put a plane back there. That's amazing.
Oh my gosh. A plane absolutely increases
productivity. Massive increase of
productivity. It's insane. Well, because
the other thing, too, is when you're
when you're on an airline, uh, and I've
been on airlines plenty, okay? So, it's
like it is what it is. But when you're
on an airline, after you fly, you're
tired. You're exhausted. Like, your
productivity is like zero that day.
Whereas, uh, my little baby plane, I I
feel like energized when I get off of it
because I get so much done on it because
everything's where I want it. Like, I
keep an iPad and a laptop on there. uh
uh you know the pilots bring me my
newspapers. It's like I yeah I still
work newspapers. Um it's phenomenal just
the productivity of being able to do
what you want and and sometimes I mean
it doesn't happen often but we can in
theory be midair and we're like yeah nah
let's go to a different airport you know
it's like crazy. Uh you don't actually
wrap planes you paint planes. Yes we
have two dedicated pilots that are on
salary. How much is maintenance? You
know, if you want to know how much
maintenance is on a plane, you should
not think about owning a plane. It's
insane. Let's just put it this way. The
planes probably going to cost somewhere
around $2.4 million a year to own and
operate.
Uh so yeah, but uh we are going to paint
on a new tail number onto it, which will
be pretty pretty cool.
Just make a teleporter. I know, right?
Anyway, so I wanted to share that uh you
know that's uh do I regret not having a
wedding experience? No, I actually don't
because see I think a big wedding
experience would have probably tanked
our ability to buy real estate. And the
most important thing you should do when
you're younger is buy real estate. Uh
now don't get me wrong that is counter
to what I'm saying here like this
experience versus like um uh like real
estate, right? But I also had an
experience. You know what I did? Instead
of spending 40 or 50 grand on a wedding,
which gets you, you know, one or two
nights, we did a 10day honeymoon uh and
a and a Mediterranean cruise for like
five grand. So, in other words, instead
of spending 50 grand on a wedding or 40
grand on a wedding where where
everything is overpriced, the
photographers, the videographers, the
wedding cakes, the venue, everything is
a ripoff in the wedding industry. And
I'm sorry if you work in the wedding
industry, honestly, you know deep down
inside it's a ripoff. But that's okay.
Like, people are willing to pay it. So,
I don't blame you for charging the
prices. Other people are willing to pay
it. Make your money, man. It's fine.
It's okay for you to make money. I'm not
going to do that though. Instead, I'm
like, I'm going to have a bitching
vacation for, you know, five grand or 10
grand maybe all in, right? I'm going to
have a bitching 10day vacation and it's
going to be the best thing ever. But I'm
going to spend zero on the wedding and
I'm going to spend 10 grand on my
honeymoon because why do I want to
entertain everybody else when instead
I'm going to have a in vacation
and a in experience with now my
wife and buy a house? [laughter]
So, so sorry. Okay, don't ask me about
weddings, man. Anyway, I got to get over
to the Elite Hustlers live stream. So, I
appreciate y'all being here. Y'all are
great. Uh, I know there's some haters
who watch, but you know what? The haters
are watching, which is honestly an
honor. It's okay, man. You know it, it's
life. You know, some people want to
punch me in the face. That's fine. You
know what? Even the people wait, you can
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