"£2000 boys for rent” Courtroom bombshell in Keir Starmer Ukrainian firebomber trial the MSM ignore

At the Old Bailey, the trial of the three young Ukrainian aspiring male models who firebombed the house and car of 2 tier K is posing more questions than answers as a cover up into the circumstances of the shady criminal operation continues at pace. Thank goodness. Independent journalists like Will Coleshill and Jonathan Wong of Vox Populi, who will be here shortly to reveal what happened in court today, are shaming the mainstream media out of their self imposed silence. 500 pounds for blacking out a car windscreen, 2,000 pounds to set a car on fire. I would not mind doing a windscreen without getting caught. One message stated. If you want money, get involved. And it is not the first time we work together and not the last either. Okay, so I've got so many suspicions over this trial. So life really is falling apart for Slippery Starmer, the most hated British Prime Minister in history. Even as the mainstream media attempt to cover up the truth about his wife and children moving out of Downing street as the Ukrainian firebomber trial begins at the Old Bailey, the independent media has shamed the MSM into finally covering the case. So I'll tell you exactly what's going on there in just one moment. But on the day from hell for our failed leader, he was brutally booed and heckled as he showed up on the scene of the latest Islamist terror attack in Sadiq Khan's London. The suspect in the stabbing of two Jews on the street in Golders Green is a Somalian man, Essa Suleiman, who has previously been reported to the government's failed counterterrorism program Prevent the that was back in 2020. But he has a long history of violence, including, wait for it, apparently being jailed for nine years for stabbing a police officer. We know this story. We have seen this violence time and again from, let's just be honest, an invader who should never have been here in the first place. So there'll be MSM outrage for a day or two and we understand the weasel words and the gaslighting that will follow. But fundamentally nothing will change because labor is overseeing an Islamist takeover of our country and they're lying to us about it. As Alison Pearson raised. I'm so sick of this. Sarah Sackman, MP for Golden Screen still banging on about far right anti Semitism. Which group is responsible for each recent attack on Jews in the uk? So how was Slippery Starmer going to deal with this one as demands grew from last night for him to visit the scene of the attack days attacks. Do you have plans to visit Golders Green? Well, let Me start by saying what an appalling attack this is. And my thoughts and all of our thoughts are with the victims, their families, their loved ones. And let's be frank, this is not an isolated incident. There have been a series of anti Semitic attacks. I know firsthand the anxiety that that is causing in the community and concern. I was at Kenton Synagogue last week where I heard a lot about that level of anxiety. It'll be worse after today. We're very much in touch with the community and I'll visit as soon as possible. A lot of people on the live chat right now saying he looks scared and he does. So initially this morning he thought, well, I'm not going to have to go. What I'll do is I'll try and look important while doing absolutely fuck all. I just say thank you to you all for coming in at short notice for this really important discussion about criminal justice in the aftermath of an appalling attack last night in Golden Screen, a terror attack in Golders Green. It is important that we come together very quickly now to take the necessary action. What we saw last night was people being targeted because they are Jewish and absolutely clear about that. And of course, our thoughts with the victims and wishing them a speedy recovery with their families and loved ones. And of course with the volunteers, the first responders, who were quite incredible in their response yesterday. But there's no getting away from the fact that this was not a one off. This has been a series of attacks on our Jewish community, particularly in recent weeks. And there is a very deep sense of anxiety, of concern about security, about safety, about identity, frankly. But after a former UK leader, Nigel Farage, did show up on the scene and made this devastating revelation, Starmer knew the game was up. There's an exclusive line that you want to bring us from a source that you've been speaking to. Very concerning, if true. Tell us what you've been told. So I do have a source within the Iranian Persian diaspora who is one of the best connected human beings in the world that I know. And he told me last night that he knows for a fact that over the course of the last few weeks there have been Iranian operatives that have been crossing in the English Channel in small boats. To put that in simple terms, we are importing terrorists into our country from across the English Channel and I challenge the British government. Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong. Because I think given everything we're seeing, it almost makes sense that they would do that. And you trust the source of implicitly Is he that well connected? I promise you, I would not give you a story or give you a line that I wasn't sure of. This comes from a vet. This comes from very high level intelligence. Very high. So this afternoon, amid heavy security and an MSM blackout, they all agreed not to report he was there until he had left the scene. Starmer showed up and it didn't go well for the man who was heckled as a traitor, Jew hater. And even when Summer got out of his car to meet a handpicked group of first responders, just like at Southport, remember that the hatred was impossible for even this delusional fool to ignore. Sa. Back in the safety of number 10, when asked about the heckling after giving a statement on anti Semitism, Sama dodged directly, addressing the anger that is mounting against him throughout the country. Watch. You've just been heckled on a visit to Golders Green. One of the victims of this attack says he feels let down and the government isn't doing its job to make Jewish people feel safe. Can you say hand on heart that you have done everything you can and do you owe the Jewish community in the UK an apology? Well, can I start by saying I absolutely understand the high levels of anxiety and concern that there are reflected in the various reactions over the last day or two? I completely understand that anxiety has been there for a very long time and the appalling terrorist attack yesterday made it worse. In terms of what we've done, we have called emergency COBRA yesterday to make sure that we're coordinating the response and putting the necessary security in place. I pulled together the various criminal justice agencies this morning to make sure that together we can show that justice will be swift, effective and visible, to give confidence to people. We had already put in enhanced funding for security and we put more funding in. Now we're looking at what further measures we can take on protests, particularly in relation to chance to banners and the repeated nature of protests. We're of course looking at what more needs to be done in health and education and we will fast track powers to deal with malign state actors. So there is a lot that is being done. Of course we need to do everything we can, but we do also need to ensure that this is a. This is something the whole country is prepared to call out to see and to fight against. Thank you. But actually, what Starmer seemed to want to do was limit free speech, which I don't think is the answer. At least Farage had something specific promising today. The Golden Screen suspect was previously sentenced to Nine years in prison for stabbing a police officer and his dog. Reform UK would strip S Suleiman of his citizenship and deport him from the country. The responses are interesting though. Look at this. Queen Natalie, this is exactly what we want to hear, but after how you've been pushing reform lately, would you actually, though we. We don't believe you would or World by Wolf. What's the use of deporting someone once he's already stabbed someone? So there are questions even for Farage on this. However slippery Starmer is down in his bunker, he only took one more question from the MSM that addressed the suspect having previously been referred to prevent. Prime Minister, the police have said that the suspect in this case had previously been referred to prevent. This looks like another failure for that program. Can we trust that Prevent can keep us safe from extremism? The investigation is obviously still ongoing and so we haven't got all the facts yet, but prevent was reviewed and we made changes after the Southport attack. We need to be open to learning any further lessons that may come out of this investigation. But we're at very early stage at this point. Prevent ain't working. It's not preventing any terrorism, for God's sake. Now, one of the victims of this terror attack, 34 year old Shalom Ran spoke to Woke ITV's Paul Brand from hospital last night. He said it was a miracle that he's still alive and he directly blamed Starmer's government for making the streets unsafe for Jewish people. Running towards me. I didn't suspect anything and just stabbed me in my chest. Yes. And I was taken to the hospital and. Yeah, and that's where I'm now. He looked angry and I've seen it in his facial expressions and he was like. His facial was like he was out to get me. Thanks God I'm here today. He could have really taken me. I could have been now, you know, elsewhere. He could have taken my life. But I'm here and I can talk and I really appreciate. It's really a miracle that was that has happened to me today. Shloime isn't just injured, he is angry at those in charge. I definitely feel that the government has let us down. Do you hold the government partly responsible for what's happened to you today? Definitely, definitely. If the streets around are not safe for Jewish people, then it's definitely the government who they are, they are the ones able to take care of the problems and they are not doing the job. Now this is an extraordinary moment of high tension for two tier care who Faces becoming the shortest serving British Labor Prime Minister in history. With the election results next week expected to be devastating. And just down the road from Golda's Green at the Old Bailey in London, the trial of three young Ukrainian male aspiring models who firebombed the house and car of the Prime Minister is posing more questions than answers as a cover up into the circumstances of the shady criminal operation continues at pace. Will Coleshill and Jonathan Wong shamed the MSM into covering this trial after none of them bothered to show up on day one. They're going viral for their excellent coverage. What do three Ukrainians arson and Keir Starmer all have to do with one another? Well, we have been down here at the Old Bailey reporting today where three Ukrainians are being charged. The first Roman Levinovich, the second Petro Pochinok and the third Stanislav Kapriok. In the case of Roman Livinovich you have arson with intent to endanger life and also arson recklessly endangering life. The lower charge in the case of all three men though you have conspiracy to to commit arson. Now what was made clear in the prosecution case is that payments between these aspiring male models were discussed. Everything from £100 to £2,000. So these were definitely boys for rent. Any pre existing relationships that we're told and figures of 102 or 103 pounds a day being discussed. We also heard discussion of further figures, 500 pounds for blacking out a car windscreen, 2,000 pounds to set a car on fire. Many of the discussions between the aspiring models took place on the social networking site Instagram. One person on Instagram is said to have stated arson, it's a crime. I would not mind doing a windscreen without getting caught. One message stated if you want money, get involved. Okay, but what's going on here? Well, we're meant to believe, we are now meant to believe that all of this was coordinated by some shadowy Russian figure called El Mani. And that's all we're allowed to know. That's all we're allowed to know. Watch. Further messages again were presented by the prosecution such as are there any jobs? This is in reference to Roman Novinovich and it is not the first time we work together and not the last either. We also heard quotes and the fallout, particularly messages from El Monis Will Cole who you see there from Fox Popular. He's doing a brilliant job. He will be here shortly. He posted the MSM didn't turn up on Monday. We did and showed them up. Some termed up today to Compensate. Our report still crushes them and it does. Now in court. Over the past few hours we have had a statement read from Lady Victoria Starmer's sister, Slippery Starmer's sister in law. She said of the night of the bombing. During this time I was frantically trying to call my sister Vic and anyone who would pick up my call. I could not get hold of anyone. Now unbelievably, Channel 4 News, the left wing Channel 4 News didn't devote a single second to this trial on its hour long bulletin. Last night the British bashing corporation's flagship 6pm bulletin decided to spend just 24 seconds on the story. The Old Bailey has heard that a series of arson attacks on property linked to the Prime Minister were orchestrated by a Russian speaking contact called El Money who promised payment in cryptocurrency. Three men, two Ukrainians aged 22 and 35 and a Romanian who's 27, are accused of plotting the series of fires in North London last spring. However, there was a more detailed report later in the night and it revealed a lot of fascinating footage that had been released in court. Setting fire to the former home of the Prime Minister before the alleged arsonist returns the next day to check his handiwork. He is Roman Lavrenovich, a Ukrainian wannabe model. Today at the Old Bailey he went on trial with two other Ukrainian men. Two attacks were allegedly carried out in this street on Sir Keir Starmer's home and on this car he once owned. Prosecutors say Roman Lavrinovich first bought an accelerant chemical in B Q before a late night trip across London to meet co defendant Petro Pochinok. They allegedly took pictures of the car then of Roman Lavranovich having just set light to it. Neighbors found it burning wildly. The prosecution said the defendants carried out the attacks after a Russian speaker using the alias L Money recruited them online and offered money for the car and properties to be set on fire. Prosecutor Duncan Atkinson Casey told jurors they don't need to decide who El Money was or why he coordinated the attacks. The three men on trial he said had a financial motive. After the final alleged arson attack, Roman Lavranovich was given advice by the alleged Russian speaking recruiter. Look, you attacked the home of a very high ranking person in Britain. I'll send you money. You need to leave the city. He was arrested eight hours later. Oh, so just financial. Let's not even ask any questions about why they wanted to target stubborn. They just wanted the money, okay? They just wanted the money. Charlie Peter from GB News turned up too. On the second day. He explained how the jury were told not to consider any political or ideological motivation. So what about any personal motivation? Went through some of the data and information they had collected on the defendants to build the case, including telegram chats, locations and images as well. Now, there were discussions held between the defendants about these arson attacks and there was also a discovery on the telegram end to end encrypted platform where the defendants were speaking with a Russian speaking telegram account called El Money. The jury were told not to consider any ideological or political motivation behind these arson attacks, instead stating that they were motivated by money, not by any political or ideological reasons. Now, the phone evidence that the prosecution had before them said that there was planning and reconnaissance before the attacks. Roman Lavranovich, a 22 year old's device data put him at the location of the three fires and Duncan act and said that there was evidence of planning and reconnaissance in images that were recovered and videos from his phone. Similarly for Petro Pochinok, his phone location data placed him close to the fire on the Countess Road in Kentish Town. And Stanislav Karpuik was said to have had substantial contact with Roman lavranovic about the third fire. And that contact included included a 48 minute long phone call and a number of messages about money. Now that was in relation to contacts between Carpuic and the telegram account L Money, the Russian speaking telegram account that the prosecution referred to earlier in their case. But there are so many questions here. How did these aspiring models find each other? What else had they worked together on? Had they met Starmer? How did they know his property and his car addresses? And what has struck me most has been the total incuriosity about this case from the mainstream media. How has not one investigative journalist in the UK been able to try and work out who Elle Money was? Over the past year, George Galloway has actually left the country to be able to ask some of these questions. But first, do you remember when energy used to feel effortless? You'd get through a workout, a long day, a bad night's sleep and still feel sharp. But as you get older, trust me, it can start to feel like your body and brain don't have the same spark they used to. Here's the interesting part that's not in your head. It's biology. When we're younger, our bodies naturally produce and regenerate high levels of creatine. But as we move into our 40s and beyond that, production steadily declines. And that means less readily available energy. For both our muscles and our brains. 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Use the code Dan for an additional 15% off off your order. That's Q U a l I a life.com dan and use the code Dan. And thank you so much to Qualia for sponsoring this episode. Now back to the show. Part of The British media, none 0 broadcaster or newspaper is covering the fact that at the end of this month, three Ukrainian rent boys are on trial for allegedly arsoning the British Prime Minister, Keir Starmer. Yes, arsoning rent boys, massage artists, male models, every one of them. A Ukrainian is charged with arsoning Keir Starmer's front door, his back door, his vehicle, his former vehicle, his former back door. Not one deep dive has occurred into the extraordinary circumstances of a serving British Prime Minister being singled out for reasons we know not why, allegedly by three Ukrainian rent boys. And very pretty boys they were too. The men are pleading not guilty. They may very well be innocent of this heinous crime of arsoning. But they may very well have to be cross examined. They may very well have to be examined. They may have to undergo all kinds of tests. But by the end of the trial, we'll know one whole lot more about just what they had held against the British Prime Minister. These three rings of siege are definitely going to see the end of Keir Starmer. And then there's the brutal political reality of what Starmer is facing with Robert Haywood. Now forecasting that Labour is on course to lose 1,850 of the 2,558 council seats it is defending in England, which would be the worst ever midterm result for a government. That's before you get to the wipeout coming in Wales and Scotland. So today we learn of a plot by Red Rayner, the tax evader, to strike quickly, with the Times reporting allies believe Rayner needs to move quickly to head off a rival campaign by Wes street in the House secretary who is widely seen as the front runner among cabinet ministers positioning themselves for the top minister prime job. The Times understands Rainer is minded to make an intervention after the results, which predicted to be dire for labor involving the loss of up to 2,000 seats, including painful defeats in traditionally strong areas such as Hackney, Camden and Lambdeth. Sources told the Times the strength of an intervention by Rayner and whether she would call for Starmer to resign would depend on the scale of the losses. It has not yet been decided whether the comments would come via a speech or a statement. Andy Burnham, the mayor of Greater Manchester who is also tipped as a contender, said on Wednesday that he can't remove the feeling of wanting to return to Westminster and suggested defence spending could be boosted by breaking the fiscal rules. He also declined to say whether Starmer should stay on after the local elections. Anas Sawa, the Scottish labor leader, expected to double down on calls for Starmer to quit if he loses the highly rude election also on May 7. MPs are also expecting the emotional toll to be a factor, as well as the drawn out time period over which results will come in. One MP who is supportive of the prime minister said part of the issue is not all of the counts are happening overnight, so you have this drip, drip, drip of losses in places we really shouldn't be losing. That's after you've just spent weeks on the door being told I'd vote Labor if you had a new leader and then even factually you don't think anyone else can do a better job, it becomes a fait accompli. Now the spectators Political editor Tim Shipman is revealing that the plot involves making Mad Miliband the new chancellor of the uk in another hammer blow to this country's viability. A source familiar with the conversations said these have been for over six months, discussions between Ed, Angela and Andy about policy and the future of government. This has been going on since the autumn and there's a greater degree of alignment between them than is commonly assumed and MP confirms they're talking all of them, all the time. They think Ed can be Chancellor. Okay, there you go. Let's go to the superstar panel. And Paul Thorpe will be with us very shortly. But first I want to cross to Central London where we are joined by the brilliant independent journalists Will Coleshill and Jonathan Wong, who have been doing this incredible reporting from India inside the Ukrainian firebombing trial. Guys, we watched a lot of your reporting earlier in the show in the Digest, but can you just bring us up to date about what happened in court today? Well, essentially today we've been in court, so the prosecution is finishing their, finishing their opening statement. So we went through how each of the defendants were arrested which led to the, the arrest. For example, Roman was arrested in the morning, early mornings of the 13th at an address where he lives with his grandmother and a friend. And he was, he said his English was not good and, and he, he was answering questions for interpreter over the phone. And three mobile phones were seized at the property and he claims to one of it belongs to him and he gave the pin number straight away to the police. They also found his trainers and also a petrol can as well as a white spirit. All of them have DNA matches to him. And there are spillages of liquid from the forensic side that says he is matching the liquid that was found both on petrol can as well as on the counter's rope. Property Countess Pro Properties, the one that's the sister in law of Starmer lives at with his, with her husband and her, her nine year old daughter. And we heard from her virus statement. Yep. Is that right? Sorry. We heard from, we heard from Lady Victoria. Yes. So the victims, because the victim statement was that she woke up in the middle of the night and she looked outside, saw the fire underneath and she sent her husband to go downstairs to check. And it turns out the front door is on fire. Loads of smoke. And she was really, really scared because her daughter, her bedroom is downstairs on the second floor on the ground floor. Sorry. And and then so she said she was quite panicky. Her asthma was triggered because she had asthma from the smoke and her husband was downstairs to check what was happening. She had to calm her daughter down to go to sleep. But the fire brigade came fairly quickly and put out a fire. And luckily enough, unlike the other property in Ellington, in Ellington is it rolled the street. Ellington Street. Ellington street, yeah, on Ellington street which doesn't have a second exit but that one has a rooftop. So their property has a back door. So they were, they were able to basically go out for the back door. So there's a little so to speak on that. And that one was a little bit more alarming because the fire also went into the hallway in that one, whereas in Kantas Road it's, it didn't go into the hallway, but there's lots of smoke in the hallway. So I think we were, we were shown photographs of the extensive damages as well as residues of some a paper and fabrics as such that they used to ignite. But at the moment you're showing the guys the, the Toyota RAV4 and also CCTV footage of the bus journey that he took and he had and images of him sending to. This is the. What's the guy's name again? I'm failing to pronounce it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's, he sent some messages to those guys. So the most interesting point actually I would bring up is probably the question behind El Money. Yeah. Because El Money with a prosecution in the opening statement said the intentions is irrelevant and there is actually no information about who this, our money guy is. All we know is he speaks fluent in Russian as well as Ukrainian. It interchanged between both of the languages during the telegram messages, but the primary language was Russian. Well, he, he said Russia. He's a Russian and Ukrainian. But he's. The sequence of order he said is that he didn't mention primary. He's, he's, he state. He's in his prepared statement which was in the agreed evidence bundle. He's, he said he's doing. He's fluent in Russian and Ukrainian and he interchanged between both them fluently. I'm talking about the first day in terms of prosecution, the first day they focused emphasis on the Russians. So I don't know whether this is. Well, I don't know on that specific. And, and Will, can I just point out one of the things. Sorry, sorry, you go, Jonathan. So basically he, he said in his prepared statement during one of these interviews was that this L Money guy found him through a telegram group that had more than 850 users on it, which is basically London Jobs basically for, for Ukrainians, I think, I think the, the name were maybe like literally London Jobs or Ukrainians or something along those lines. So he doesn't know the identity of this person. And on. In his prepared statement he said he was threatened by El Money because El Money knows where, where he lives, where. Which he also shares his, he shares the place with his, with his grandmother, so he's worried about her life. So that was the, that was in his prepared Statement for the police, one of the interviews. And then since then it's mostly no comment after that. But however, there are many messages that was. That were displayed. That was the evidence that was presented by a prosecution of exchanges of messages between Roman and There's a gentleman. Clement, I think 9297. Yeah. As an Instagram user. Where, where Roman appears to be offering jobs to quote unquote, paint a black up a gold. Yeah. Either on windscreen by either painting or by spraying. And it's £500, he said, paraphrasing £500 for a car, £1,000 for two. Easy money. And then eventually he offered the job of £2,000 of setting the car on fire. And one of the responses was from. From this Clement person which was not named and it's not. Is not any of the defendants. We don't know whether or not he's one of the people that were arrested and then subsequently released without charge or further investigation because he basically, he declined the job on the basis that he said effing Arsenal arson is a crime. And Will, the thing that I'm trying to get my head around from the. From the trial is that in your report, will you make it clear that it doesn't matter, according to the prosecutor, what the motivation was? It doesn't feel like we're going to get any type of details about why the why. Why did these three aspiring young men want to target Starmer's house? How did they target Starmer's house? Did that. Did they know Starmer? But the prosecution will. And tell me if I'm wrong. But I looked at your reporting. The prosecution seems to be suggesting that's completely irrelevant to the case, which looks to me like a cover up. We are on a mission to 700,000 subscribers. So I need you to do something for me right now. It is free, it is easy, it is simple. Just hit that subscribe button on YouTube. That's because over 50% of you watching this video haven't done that yet. And it is the best way to support Outspoken. We're totally independent, by the way. No big tech backing, no billionaires pulling the strings. And if you turn on the bell, you'll get alerted to all our new videos. It's a bit strange because I sort of want to have it both ways. They did state, don't focus on L money, don't focus on the motive for this. Just focus on the acts themselves in order to convict. But then they've also given a bunch of explicit statements saying they did this for the money. Essentially. To paraphrase they've. They've. They're drawing a clear line saying that this was done for the money. But then they're saying don't focus on the motive itself. Yeah. So one of the peculiar thing that came out is on a. On a previous day on the. On the opening statement, it was referenced that the El money offered Roman to who post ads. But the ads. But Roman rejected it because he said he's always to do with Islam, he's no good and basically rejected the job. They didn't take the 1 to 2 pounds per poster sticker essentially. But today we found out what those posters are. Is actually. Okay, so it's actually anti Islam. He wants. He wanted to report posters in south hall to which. Which says what's the quote? Let me have a quick look. I posted that. Give me two seconds, I'll find exact quote. Oh, did you write it down? No, I haven't come. You said London will be free when. When it remembers. What was it? Aoda or something like that, which is a location in India City is a city in India. And so. Yeah, so basically is. Is. And it's a QR code to a petition to ban. To ban Islamic centers in Islamic centers in South Hall. And another very interesting thing is on this. On the. What's the name? Say that your Name again. The C1SC. Oh, copy, copy. Up. Okay, so on Copyoke's telegram messages, there was a person called L, but we. We have not been verified the identity person. And that was El rather than the L as in the letter L. Yeah, Money that we've seen in Roman Levinovich. Yeah. So they. We have. We have not been told whether or not they're the same person because there's no. No, there's no ID behind it. It's just a user on the thing. It's interesting is out. But we. We can't make any. We can't. We can't. I mean the prosecution's drawn a link between the two. So it's very interestingly, four. Four images were sent to say that game. Oh Stanislavia to Carpet's phone from telegram of four Islamic Islamic centers. One in Croydon and with the front door circled in the same style as the ones that are in Lover Notch this phone. So this is a separate incident, but it's very interesting that they've. They've. Is it completely. Is it complete? It's complete left field for. For us. Well, the interesting thing is is El Money even the. If El Money is the person who's you know, paying them, recruiting them. Yeah. Then is actually El Money the one behind it or is there someone further. Yeah. Is El Money a fixer or some sort that. Yeah. And Will, do we have any indication at this point as to whether these three men knew Starmer in any way? Well, we, that we have not been presented with any evidence that those men know anything about Starmer because literally K. Starma is not mentioned in any of those guys messages. The only reference was after, after, after everything has happened. El Money sent messages to Roman telling him what was the exact quote you have? You attacked the house of a very high ranking individual in Britain and then it went on. You need to get out of the city. If police detain you, send a secret message. Geranium. Yeah, and I will send a lawyer over. Yeah. So the only person that seems to actually recognize who Kiyosama is is El Money. So it could very well be. There are a bunch of Romanians who are not Romanian. Sorry, a bunch of Ukrainians. Ukrainians who, who are just basically up for taking money for doing anything. But it's, it's peculiar. We haven't pretend, we can't rule it out, but we haven't been pretending evidence that they know. Kia sama. Let me bring in Paul who, who's listening to all of this. Paul, this case to me is already stinking like a cover up. It's like, oh, don't worry about whether these, these models had new, new Starmer. Don't worry about what their motivation is. Don't worry if, if they were politically motivated. I mean. And El Money, who's El Money? Well, of course he's just a Russian agent. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think, do you buy this? Well, Dan, I think we've gotta wait and see. I mean the first thing I would say is well done to, to, to, to both the lads there, John and Will. I mean, you know, great guys doing a great job. Absolutely. I mean Dan, would you not think with all this intrigue and mystery and it involves the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, would you not just think for just a moment that BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Sky News, they might just be a little bit curious as to what's going on in the background here. But the silence in this instance is absolutely deafening. I mean I can't understand why there's basically pretty much a blanket ban on, on reporting and certainly really any investigation as exactly looking into it. Exactly what's behind the door. I think, I think that's what we all need to know. What is behind this door. A hundred percent. 100%. And I just repeat, Channel 4 News did not devote a single second yesterday to the coverage. And what I loved, Will and Jonathan, is that it was your reporting on day one of the trial that actually got any of the mainstream media down there. GB News was not there on the first day. The BBC was. None of them were there on. On the first day. So it was like they hoped that there would just be a total blackout. Then they saw the impact that your reporting was making for Vox Populi. So what we're going to do is follow all of your reporting. I know this trial continues, and please do come back, because there's a lot to unravel here. But I'm gonna be honest. My suspicion, and it's a worrying suspicion, is that we are simply not going to find out the truth from this trial. Unfortunately, that. That's where I'm at on this. Dan Wilson, Outspoken is your no spin, no bias, no censorship outlet for independent news. We have no big tech backing or billionaires pulling my strings. 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