Full App Growth Guide 2026 - How to Make Viral Content to Get Users & Make Your App Retentive
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What if you could build an app so
retentive it was stickier than Tik Tok
itself? Onap Flame has 50% day30
retention. And Tik Tok, which is
arguably one of the most addictive apps
to ever come out, is only at 40%.
>> We were able to increase our day 30
retention from 4.2% to roughly 30% and
then all the way up to 50% by doing
this. Tik Tok barely touches roughly 40%
on day 30.
>> But unlike most stories, it wasn't
always this way. His first version had a
dismal 0.8%
30-day retention.
>> Joseph, you know, how much was the day
30 retention on this product? Zero 0.8%.
>> So, he went back to the drawing board,
studied habit formation, and reverse
engineered what makes people come back.
And what he built was a retention
machine with a carrot and stick
approach, widgets, and notifications
that pulled users back in every day. But
with a killer product and no money left,
he had to figure out distribution or the
company would die. We decided to
monetize because we didn't have any
money left brother because we raised a
small round in 23. We were running out
of money at the end of the year. We were
like we need to monetize or we won't
survive.
>> So he dedicated himself to one thing
mastering Tik Tok.
>> I realized what I had to do was I had to
go into Tik Tok. Tik Tok was going to be
a savior. What I did is for 2 months I
dedicated myself to scrolling Tik Tok
for 4 hours every day.
>> And unlike 99% of people, he didn't just
doom scroll all day.
>> I started collecting these little
babies. What I can tell you is as
compared to a bigger iPhone, scrolling
on a smaller iPhone takes a lot more
work. It takes a lot more effort.
>> He built a system and developed the VSC
framework, his method for finding
content that is viral, scalable, and
convertible.
>> If you go to the comments, if people are
not asking what is the app, what is the
product, where can I get this, etc.,
then it is not content that converts.
Then it's content that's getting views.
Then it's content that's going viral,
but it's not content that can convert.
He created 10-page playbooks with
winning scripts and master prompts,
feeding them to AI to generate hundreds
of videos a day across multiple
accounts. And he built the product
itself to be visually appealing on Tik
Tok with every animation and loader
designed to be eye-catching.
>> Your product should be built for Tik
Tok. What I mean by that is if you look
at the flows on this product, if you
look at the way it's positioned, like
even the loader that comes in this
little AI animation, we built it so it
would appear visually pleasing on Tik
Tok. This system generated 50 million
views and 150,000 users 100%
organically. And in this episode, Anne
breaks down his entire playbook from how
he built a retention machine that's
stickier than Tik Tok to the VSSC
framework for finding content that
actually converts and how he uses AI and
a systematic approach to dominate
organic Tik Tok. This is a masterass in
building something people love and
systematically getting it in front of
millions. Let's get into it. This is the
Superwall podcast and I'm Joseph Choy,
founder of Consumer Club. The members in
the consumer club discord and the
founders I interview on the pod build
apps at a median of 1 million ARR. A lot
of these apps that make the most money
run AB tests on their payw walls to make
more revenue with the same number of
users. Superwall has a lot of data on
the thousands of apps that use their
payw walls. So recently they put
together a free AI tool trained on 422
profitable paywall experiments. It lets
you upload a screenshot of your own payw
wall and gives you an experiment idea to
increase your revenue. You can use it
for free at paywallexperiments.com.
Also, if you're building a mobile app
doing at least 100K a month in revenue,
Superwall hosts dinners in San Francisco
and New York. They keep each gathering
small, thoughtful, genuinely useful for
everyone. If you meet this criteria of
100K a month in revenue and want an
invite, apply using the type form in the
description. Let's get into the pod. So
you got 150k users. You have this huge
organic machine with tons of account
types and formats and everything. But I
actually want to start with just your
story in general cuz I think it's pretty
unique and interesting. You can just
tell me like how you got into
entrepreneurship and startups and stuff.
But even before that,
>> let me begin the chapter with my first
move, right? That's where it all
started. So I was really young, man. I
didn't know what to do next. I was
thinking, you know, this is back when I
was in India. I grew up there and I was
like, where do I move next? what do I
do? And I had the choice of moving all
the way to the west. I could try and do
a master's program somewhere in the west
or I could move to China. I was like,
why the f not, you know, let's try this.
So I decided to move to China back in
2013. I had no idea. I didn't speak the
language. I couldn't move around the
country. I didn't know about the food. I
was just thrown in there and I landed
there and I was like, "Okay, what is
happening now?" Like I took this move,
but I have no idea what's going on. But
learned the language, finished my degree
there and then I opened my first
business there in China. Can you guess,
Joseph, what the business was?
>> Something to do with fitness.
>> Of course. Of course, man. It was uh we
were the first 24-hour gym in Beijing.
Uh so we opened in Ping and then we
spread across to a couple of other
cities across China. Seven locations.
Had no idea how to, you know, I couldn't
speak Chinese at that point. I learned
by talking with the people who I was
working with, communicating with them,
understanding what was going on. Uh so I
carried on with this. That was my first
business. Scaled that to seven
locations. We did 15 million R&B in
revenue and uh I made a lot of mistakes.
I made a lot of mistakes. I was really
young then man. I didn't have a complete
idea. So things did work out well. But I
also made a lot of mistakes along the
way. Learned a lot of lessons. And I
decided to take all that learning and
move to Europe actually. So I moved to
Europe. I worked for Jono, German
scaleup back in Berlin. I took them from
a series B to a series C. And it was
interesting for me because in that
chapter I switched from being an
entrepreneur to working for someone
else. It was in a high growth startup
but I also learned a lot along the way
and I figured out that even though I
enjoyed the structure that came with the
scaling, I wanted to get back into
building something of my own. Now that
was back in 22nd
23 starting. I moved to the US. I
launched Flame. I raised money for Flame
in that year. And this was my first tech
product I was building. I didn't have a
complete idea regarding tech, how it
operated. I didn't even know what coding
languages were at that point, Joseph.
So, I went to a friend's house of mine
who was a developer. I was like, I want
to build this app. And they said, okay,
but do you have the UIU UX? I said, what
is that? I just want an app to the
screen that looks like this. They said,
okay, but do you know what language are
you going to build it in? Is it a web
app? Is it a mobile app? I said, I just
want to build an app. How complicated
can it be? So I learned a lot through
that entire process. Made a lot of
failures again as well and we
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