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Full App Growth Guide 2026 - How to Make Viral Content to Get Users & Make Your App Retentive

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What if you could build an app so

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retentive it was stickier than Tik Tok

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itself? Onap Flame has 50% day30

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retention. And Tik Tok, which is

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arguably one of the most addictive apps

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to ever come out, is only at 40%.

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>> We were able to increase our day 30

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retention from 4.2% to roughly 30% and

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then all the way up to 50% by doing

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this. Tik Tok barely touches roughly 40%

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on day 30.

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>> But unlike most stories, it wasn't

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always this way. His first version had a

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dismal 0.8%

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30-day retention.

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>> Joseph, you know, how much was the day

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30 retention on this product? Zero 0.8%.

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>> So, he went back to the drawing board,

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studied habit formation, and reverse

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engineered what makes people come back.

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And what he built was a retention

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machine with a carrot and stick

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approach, widgets, and notifications

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that pulled users back in every day. But

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with a killer product and no money left,

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he had to figure out distribution or the

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company would die. We decided to

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monetize because we didn't have any

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money left brother because we raised a

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small round in 23. We were running out

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of money at the end of the year. We were

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like we need to monetize or we won't

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survive.

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>> So he dedicated himself to one thing

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mastering Tik Tok.

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>> I realized what I had to do was I had to

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go into Tik Tok. Tik Tok was going to be

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a savior. What I did is for 2 months I

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dedicated myself to scrolling Tik Tok

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for 4 hours every day.

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>> And unlike 99% of people, he didn't just

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doom scroll all day.

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>> I started collecting these little

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babies. What I can tell you is as

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compared to a bigger iPhone, scrolling

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on a smaller iPhone takes a lot more

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work. It takes a lot more effort.

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>> He built a system and developed the VSC

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framework, his method for finding

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content that is viral, scalable, and

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convertible.

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>> If you go to the comments, if people are

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not asking what is the app, what is the

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product, where can I get this, etc.,

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then it is not content that converts.

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Then it's content that's getting views.

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Then it's content that's going viral,

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but it's not content that can convert.

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He created 10-page playbooks with

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winning scripts and master prompts,

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feeding them to AI to generate hundreds

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of videos a day across multiple

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accounts. And he built the product

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itself to be visually appealing on Tik

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Tok with every animation and loader

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designed to be eye-catching.

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>> Your product should be built for Tik

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Tok. What I mean by that is if you look

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at the flows on this product, if you

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look at the way it's positioned, like

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even the loader that comes in this

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little AI animation, we built it so it

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would appear visually pleasing on Tik

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Tok. This system generated 50 million

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views and 150,000 users 100%

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organically. And in this episode, Anne

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breaks down his entire playbook from how

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he built a retention machine that's

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stickier than Tik Tok to the VSSC

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framework for finding content that

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actually converts and how he uses AI and

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a systematic approach to dominate

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organic Tik Tok. This is a masterass in

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building something people love and

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systematically getting it in front of

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millions. Let's get into it. This is the

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Superwall podcast and I'm Joseph Choy,

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founder of Consumer Club. The members in

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the consumer club discord and the

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founders I interview on the pod build

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apps at a median of 1 million ARR. A lot

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of these apps that make the most money

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run AB tests on their payw walls to make

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more revenue with the same number of

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users. Superwall has a lot of data on

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the thousands of apps that use their

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payw walls. So recently they put

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together a free AI tool trained on 422

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profitable paywall experiments. It lets

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you upload a screenshot of your own payw

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wall and gives you an experiment idea to

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increase your revenue. You can use it

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for free at paywallexperiments.com.

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Also, if you're building a mobile app

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doing at least 100K a month in revenue,

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Superwall hosts dinners in San Francisco

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and New York. They keep each gathering

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small, thoughtful, genuinely useful for

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everyone. If you meet this criteria of

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100K a month in revenue and want an

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invite, apply using the type form in the

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description. Let's get into the pod. So

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you got 150k users. You have this huge

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organic machine with tons of account

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types and formats and everything. But I

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actually want to start with just your

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story in general cuz I think it's pretty

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unique and interesting. You can just

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tell me like how you got into

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entrepreneurship and startups and stuff.

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But even before that,

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>> let me begin the chapter with my first

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move, right? That's where it all

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started. So I was really young, man. I

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didn't know what to do next. I was

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thinking, you know, this is back when I

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was in India. I grew up there and I was

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like, where do I move next? what do I

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do? And I had the choice of moving all

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the way to the west. I could try and do

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a master's program somewhere in the west

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or I could move to China. I was like,

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why the f not, you know, let's try this.

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So I decided to move to China back in

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2013. I had no idea. I didn't speak the

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language. I couldn't move around the

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country. I didn't know about the food. I

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was just thrown in there and I landed

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there and I was like, "Okay, what is

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happening now?" Like I took this move,

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but I have no idea what's going on. But

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learned the language, finished my degree

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there and then I opened my first

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business there in China. Can you guess,

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Joseph, what the business was?

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>> Something to do with fitness.

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>> Of course. Of course, man. It was uh we

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were the first 24-hour gym in Beijing.

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Uh so we opened in Ping and then we

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spread across to a couple of other

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cities across China. Seven locations.

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Had no idea how to, you know, I couldn't

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speak Chinese at that point. I learned

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by talking with the people who I was

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working with, communicating with them,

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understanding what was going on. Uh so I

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carried on with this. That was my first

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business. Scaled that to seven

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locations. We did 15 million R&B in

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revenue and uh I made a lot of mistakes.

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I made a lot of mistakes. I was really

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young then man. I didn't have a complete

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idea. So things did work out well. But I

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also made a lot of mistakes along the

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way. Learned a lot of lessons. And I

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decided to take all that learning and

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move to Europe actually. So I moved to

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Europe. I worked for Jono, German

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scaleup back in Berlin. I took them from

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a series B to a series C. And it was

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interesting for me because in that

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chapter I switched from being an

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entrepreneur to working for someone

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else. It was in a high growth startup

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but I also learned a lot along the way

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and I figured out that even though I

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enjoyed the structure that came with the

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scaling, I wanted to get back into

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building something of my own. Now that

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was back in 22nd

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23 starting. I moved to the US. I

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launched Flame. I raised money for Flame

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in that year. And this was my first tech

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product I was building. I didn't have a

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complete idea regarding tech, how it

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operated. I didn't even know what coding

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languages were at that point, Joseph.

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So, I went to a friend's house of mine

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who was a developer. I was like, I want

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to build this app. And they said, okay,

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but do you have the UIU UX? I said, what

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is that? I just want an app to the

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screen that looks like this. They said,

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okay, but do you know what language are

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you going to build it in? Is it a web

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app? Is it a mobile app? I said, I just

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want to build an app. How complicated

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can it be? So I learned a lot through

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that entire process. Made a lot of

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failures again as well and we

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