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Fall Guy Breaks Down What Really Happened To Tupac In Clinton Prison

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I don't know where Fat Joe is getting

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his information from. Maybe some Puerto

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Ricans did call him hallucinating.

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There was stories about Tupac getting

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violated andor touched in prison. That

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is a lie. An absolute lie. And the dude

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that asked him to rap was like, "Yeah,

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you know, not to come out to the yard."

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And he had to be removed because once

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again, the administration viewed him as

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a threat.

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When Tupac came to Clinton, I remember

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it vividly. I remember the day that he

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came. He came to lower F. Lower F was

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longterm. That's where they housed you

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unless you was going to the box. But it

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was also reception where you stayed for

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3 days so that the sergeant can come see

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you and interrogate you to see if you

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needed PC, see if you had any enemies or

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things of that nature, if it was safe

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for you to come out in the population.

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Pac didn't have those problems. In fact,

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I remember when Pac came and dudes knew

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him, they was asking him to rap. He was

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asking him to do all this clown stuff,

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cornball stuff that thorough [ __ ]

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don't even, you know, you don't ask

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another man that. One dude was being

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persistent. So when the CO came around

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for the yard and you have to give you a

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cell location, whatever cell location

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that you're in, you would say 21 yard.

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Pac didn't put down for the yard because

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he was tired. And the dude that asked

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him to rap was like, yeah, you know, not

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to come out to the yard. Pac yelled out

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through the balls, "Yo, CO, put me down

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for the yard." Put him down for the

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yard. His gate cracked. Pac came out,

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but they couldn't let him out. Another

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co said, "Nah, he just got here. He's

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reception back in the cell." The next

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day, he went to the messaul. And I

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remember that day, the whole messaul saw

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him and they just started banging the

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table. Thug life, thug life, thug life.

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And the seals looked at each other. They

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heard him, but they didn't realize just

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how famous he was because he was famous.

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This was Tupac. It's in his bloodline.

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Black Panther, BLA, that militant blood,

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they automatically put them in

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administrative segregation.

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Administrative segregation is whereas

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you're a threat to the MA population or

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you're a threat to the cos, you're a

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threat at large. So they put him in that

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midseg, AU, and that's where he stayed.

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And I remember that day. AU was a

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federally funded program for highprofile

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cases. People like Son of Sam, Sean, Old

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Dirty Bastard, they were in there. He

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was not in general population. He had to

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be removed because once again, the

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administration viewed him as a threat.

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The last thing they wanted in Clinton

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Dan Moore, the largest maximum

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population in New York State was a

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uprising or Clinton Dan Moore thinking

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that they had a messiah. They was not

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having that. They did not want that. Not

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in that environment.

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Tupac was the type of dude that you

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could approach him. He didn't give off

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the energy that he was not approachable.

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I witnessed him speak to a lot of

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people. Dudes would nod at him. Dudes

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would say, "What's up, dudes would shout

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him out, P dudes would be like thug life

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and Pac would crack a smile recognizing

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that they recognize him even under the

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condition that he was in. I think he

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appreciated that. I know I appreciated

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him cuz I listen to his music. He was a

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standup dude always because I worked in

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the law library. I had interactions with

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Tupac. Three separate interactions. Two

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pertaining to the package room and one

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just in a hallway because we was both in

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H block but he was in upper H. In any

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event, there was no talking in Clinton.

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But certain cos would allow you to speak

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because once again they knew who he was

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or they finally figured out who he was.

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So we would nod at each other or say

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what's up.

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There were stories about Tupac getting

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violated andor touched in prison. That

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is a lie. An absolute lie. That never

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happened. That never happened. For one,

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I was in Clinton from 1990 to 1999. The

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majority of people knew me. I'm not

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going to go into detail about who I was

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in that particular jail, what I had,

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things of that nature. That's neither

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here nor there. Tupac never had a

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problem. He never had a problem with

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anyone. Not the Puerto Ricans, not the

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blacks, not the Muslims, not the nettas,

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not the kings, nobody. where he was at,

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no one could get a hold of him. No one

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could get to him as so many allude to

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and he wouldn't have had that anyway.

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Period. Can anybody picture in a right

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mind this man allowing somebody to touch

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him? Period. In any way, shape, form, or

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fashion that was negative or sexual.

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It's not going to happen. It's not going

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to happen. It did not happen. And anyone

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who says it, it was a lie. And I stand

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on that. He was not in population. And

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so once again, and I have to keep

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mentioning this because no pressure was

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applied to Pac at all. And I knew the

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gangsters. They knew me. Nobody never

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spoke about that. Just didn't happen.

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Tupac didn't have any situations in

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prison. And some may argue, well, was

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you with them 24/7? How could you

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possibly know? Once again, I had an

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institutional past. The jail shuts down

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at a certain time, and I was in Clinton

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from 1990 to 1999.

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So you can just imagine how many people

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I knew from inmates, staff, anyone. It

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didn't matter. So word was going to get

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back to me. Nothing happened to him. And

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I cannot stress that enough. Nobody was

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putting pressure on him. Nobody was

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doing anything to that man. Absolutely

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nothing happened.

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I saw the biopic about Tupac where

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Clifton Pow played an OG. I do believe

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his name was Floyd. And not for one

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second do I think that that individual

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Floyd portrayed me in any way, shape,

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form or fashion. I was not that

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boisterous with pop. When we saw each

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other, we would speak or give a nod and

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that was the gist of it. But I knew

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everything that was around him. I knew

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the people that was around him and he

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had some good dudes around him like my

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boy Uni. A lot of people didn't like Uni

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cuz Uni was a gangster. Uni was into

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extracurricular activity at times, but

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that's him. That's prison. Everybody got

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a bid to do. He was around my man Big C

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from Albany. He was around a bunch of

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other dudes. So that person Floyd could

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have been portrayed by any one of them.

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I don't know where Fat Joe is getting

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his information from. Maybe some Puerto

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Ricans did call him, hallucinating,

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fronting, trying to get some bread out

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of him. I don't know what the case was.

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But one thing I do know, nobody was

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putting pressure on Tupac. Nobody was

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putting pressure on them. You don't put

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pressure on people on that midsegg and

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au you can't get to them. It's

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impossible. Once again, I had an

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institutional path because I worked in a

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law library. After the Attica riot, a

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whole lot of laws change. Doesn't matter

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if you're in a box, long-term keep lock,

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in a hospital, wherever you are, and you

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request law books, they have to come to

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you by law. You may be under escort by a

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CO or you may not be, but the law books

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have to come to you. And every time I

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went to his particular tier or any other

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tier, but specifically his tier because

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he's the topic of discussion wasn't

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nobody doing nothing. You cannot get to

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that man. You can't get to anybody in

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there. So what Fat Joe was saying is

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absolutely wrong. Maybe he was told the

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wrong things. I'm not saying that he's

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lying per se, but that is a lie about

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him being distorted by the Puerto Ricans

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or anybody else for that matter. Just

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didn't happen.

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Would

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the cos have given him a hard time or

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did they give him a hard time? No,

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really, they didn't. After they found

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out who he was, they definitely didn't

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want to give him a hard time. They were

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