What a CIA Veteran Sees in Joe Kent Nobody Else Does | John Kiriakou

So, uh, what is your take on this whole

Joe Kent resignation?

>> Oh,

I sent you the the I sent you the clip

of what was her name? Whitney Webb.

Yeah.

>> Who I like. I love her stuff. I I'm

halfway through her book, one of her

books right now. I think she's super

smart, very diligent. Um, and you know,

when I heard her make this take about

Whitney Webb, I'm like, "Okay, maybe

she's connecting some dots or seeing

some [ __ ] fractal pattern that I'm

incapable of seeing because she's done

so much research,

>> right?"

>> Um, but we'll talk about that. What is

your whole take on everything?

>> Normally, she's great

>> when it comes to some of these issues.

She's great, for example, on the Epstein

Files.

>> Yes.

>> Just wonderful.

>> Oh, yeah.

>> And on other Yeah. That's right. That's

right.

deep research. I think she's just plain

wrong

>> on on Joe Kent. Funny, you know, I I

didn't I didn't support his uh his

nomination to be the director of the

National Counterterrorism Center. I I

just thought he wasn't qualified.

>> When did he first become the director of

the National Counter?

>> A year ago.

>> A year ago. Okay.

>> He's young and I thought he was too

young for a position like that. I mean,

you're you're essentially the head of of

an independent agency. Mhm.

>> Um,

>> and one of the things, just to clarify

for people, by the way, I think what

Whitney Webb's take on it was

>> was that uh he she said he was a top

spook.

>> No, he was not.

>> Okay. I don't know.

>> Not in any definition of the word spook.

>> Okay. So, she she what she said on Jimmy

Door's show um I think last week or a

couple days ago was that when somebody

comes from the CIA or is a top spook in

her words um and resigns, she thinks

that she might he might be trying to

garner public trust um in order to do

some sort of a misdirection or whatever.

and she used the explanation.

>> She she referenced a speech that

Elizabeth Newman gave during Trump's

first presidency

about

um domestic terrorism and focusing on

far-right

uh anti-semitic

right-wing nationalists or whatever,

focusing them on them for domestic

terrorism. And I guess my best

understanding of what she was saying was

that he might they might be trying to

use Kent to corral all those people

together and trying to make it easier to

target them or something.

>> Is that

>> that's just not real life. MK Ultra is

over.

>> It finished in 1975.

>> That that kind of stuff just isn't

>> it's just not a part of reality.

>> Mhm. Yeah, I I um

I'm a member of this group called uh

VIPS, Veteran Intelligence Professionals

for Sanity. So, it's it's made up of

retired CIA, FBI, NSA, some DoD,

um, people, a lot of spies, and

they researched the daylights out of

this, and decided to give him the Sam

Adams Award for Integrity and

Intelligence because

they believe, we believe that

what we see is is what we're getting.

>> Yeah. that he resigned because of the

because of his personal opposition to

the war in Iran. He believes that the

intelligence was ignored. Um he believes

that the intelligence that was not

ignored was given to us by the Israelis

and it was false intelligence

and I say amen to that.

>> Mhm.

>> So no, I don't believe that there's any

kind of like behind the scenes

>> Yeah.

>> Uh subtuge. And Joe said, I think on

Tucker's podcast, that he still had full

access to all information before he

resigned, which means that he wouldn't

have been being investigated before he

resigned. The investigation was a media

narrative hit or something like that

that happened after,

>> right? And you know, investigation is a

word that is thrown around a lot uh

inappropriately. What happens if if

somebody

if somebody goes on TV, let's say, and

makes a revelation

>> and the information may be classified or

could be construed as classified. The

CIA or ODNI, the Office of the Director

of National Intelligence, will file

something called a crimes report with

the Department of Justice.

99% of the crimes reports are ignored,

right? Only if it's something egregious

or it's seen as something egregious will

DOJ actually initiate a uh an

investigation. And there's no there's no

evidence that any serious investigations

taking place.

>> Interesting. Yeah. It seems like it's uh

standard operating procedure for the

government against whistleblowers.

They're they're a Kremlin agent

basically, you know, how they treat them

all. Right.

>> Yes. Exactly. Right. And he also said,

which was wild, that he was sort of

shued off the Charlie Kirk investigation

because he thought that he

>> That is wild.

>> He said he wasn't able to do the the

adequate research or analysis on whether

a foreign asset. He was he wasn't

accusing Israel. He was very measured

about that.

>> I was just going to say that he was not

making any accusations.

>> He was just saying that there were loose

threads that he wanted to run to ground

>> and he was not permitted to do that.

What do you make of that? What do you

think that is?

>> That bothers me very, very much. You

know, on the one hand,

Candace Owens sometimes sounds like a

crazy person when she says, "Oh, when

Charlie Kirk was killed, the Egyptian

Air Force was flying in this pattern and

it coincided with what are you talking

about? The Egyptian Air Force did not

kill Charlie Kirk." That just sounds

crazy. That's not what Joe Kent was

talking about. Joe Kent was talking

about clandestinely collected

information

that did not easily fit into

the general consensus that this kid shot

Charlie Kirk. I mean, it looks like he

did, but who knows? You don't know until

you investigate. And so you want to run

to ground these little isolated bits of

information that people are collecting

whether domestically or overseas.

>> And he wasn't allowed to do that.

>> I have no idea why he wouldn't be

allowed to do that. You know,

>> have you ever heard of another case

similar to this where people would be

kicked away from the case other than

JFK? Maybe.

>> I was just going to say even in the JFK

case,

>> the information was collected. It just

has never been released,

>> but it was collected.

Yeah.

>> And the story just came out yesterday

that the bullet that hit Charlie Kirk

was not the bullet from that gun that

they found that the FBI said was his.

>> Oh, I didn't see that.

>> Can you find that, Steve?

>> Daily Mail. The bullet used to kill

Charlie Kirk did not match the rifle

allegedly used by the suspect Tyler

Robinson. New court filing claims.