BREAKING: Mark Carney's New MP Completely Embarrasses Liberal Party - AND THEN MAKES IT 10X WORSE!

And when you have an MP like that

dismissing what

is Noel acknowledged that China does

this raises more questions about is is

the prime minister really serious about

uh human rights in this country.

>> They finally said it.

Earlier today, we covered an

unbelievable committee meeting where

Michael Ma attacked a witness's

credibility just because she talked

about forced labor camps in China that

had been documented by the UN and

human's rights organizations around the

world. When he was called out on it, he

wanted the conservatives to apologize

for even bringing it up. Now he is

facing backlash from all sides, even the

CBC. And with every interaction, he is

dropping the equivalent of weaponsgrade

napal on a bonfire that he started. Now

Mark Carney is going to be in an

impossible position as a result.

Oh my gosh. Let's take a look.

>> One of the Liberal Party's newest MPs is

facing backlash over an exchange he had

today at committee. Michael Ma was

questioning a witness who is against

Canada accepting Chinese electric

vehicles. That witness raised human

rights violations against weaguers in

China and Ma questioned the evidence of

that claim.

>> You claim about forced labor in Senzhen.

Have you witnessed this yourself? Have

you been there ever?

>> I've been to China many times. Have you

witnessed since 1979?

>> Have you witnessed forced that? Just a

short answer. Have you witnessed forced

labor in San Jen?

>> Yes or no?

>> Um, so did you get that?

>> I work closely with human rights watch

where researchers did witness it.

>> So, thank you.

Ma's office sent a statement to defend

his action, saying, "Michael used a

quick burst of yes or no questions to

move away from the anti-China EV witness

and then to give the floor to the

pro-China EV witness. That was the

strategy on paper.

That's not any better.

If anything, that is a bajillion times

worse

because the conservatives called the

witness that he was questioning and was

trying to tear apart her credibility.

So, his office is literally saying that

the liberals intentionally called a

pro-China

EV witness.

How is this a better answer?

And I want to know who wrote that answer

in his office. Oh my goodness.

I I I

I'm speechless. I don't know what to

say. Somebody in his office thought, hm,

okay, we have to respond. We have some

time. Yes. Yes. This is going to be the

best response

that the Liberals intentionally called a

pro-China

person to the committee.

If anybody is wondering if the liberals

are pro-China,

don't you don't have to believe me. You

don't have to believe Pierre Polyv. You

don't have to believe any of the

conservatives. believe the Liberals

because that's exactly what they said

from a Liberal MP's office.

Holy crap. The CBC's Olivia Stfanovich

caught up with Michael Ma literally on

Parliament Hill after that statement was

issued.

>> You challenge a witness on forced labor

in China. Do you believe there's forced

labor in China?

>> You do? Is that is that a yes, Mr. Bob?

>> Sorry, I'm late for a meeting. Yes, but

can you please explain your comments at

the industry committee?

>> I have no comment at this time.

>> The conservatives are making it seem

like you don't care about forced labor

in China or you don't believe in it.

What do you think of that?

>> Well, they like to uh exaggerate always.

>> Was it really an exaggeration? Do you

believe there is forced labor in China?

>> I believe there are forced laborers all

over the world.

>> What about China specifically?

>> Well, all over the world.

>> But China specifically?

>> Yeah. Sorry, I need to write.

>> Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Michael Ma,

Mr. Liberal MP Michael Ma. And the thing

that really hurts them on this is this

this exchange that they had here. This

is the exact same thing that the other

Liberal MPs tried to do in committee

today because the Conservatives put

forward a motion after all this went

down to say, "Okay, can we just as a

committee try and say that China

is a committing these human rights

violations and that the committee can

condemn this?"

So, initially the liberals were going to

and then the conservatives introduced a

motion to condemn the comments that

Michael Mah had made to that witness and

then they said no and then the liberals

amended that motion to say well we want

to replace China with global. So they

did not want to specifically call out

China

and this is what we hear Michael Ma

saying the exact same thing.

So, this is starting this is starting to

reveal

what the actual liberal stance is on

China, folks. And it's not China's the

biggest threat to the to the to Canada.

And it's not China is the biggest threat

to the world. And it's not no, we're not

going to remove tariffs from China.

We're going to be strong on China.

You tell me what this is.

Let's hear what the talking heads have

to say on CBC. Okay, I'm going to start

with you, Bob, because I know you've

written a lot about China. You've

followed this issue. You know what's

going on in Shinjzhin. You know what the

past parliaments have said about

possible genocide in that part of China.

Seems like Mr. Ma sort of downplaying

potentially that sort of issue, forced

labor in that part of the world. What do

you make of that exchange?

>> Well, first of all, the witness who uh

is Margaret McCrae Johnson, who is

actually a former senior civil servant.

She's highly respected in this town and

the question and and when she she knows

what she's talking about and she's read

up on uh human rights watch for example

has talked about aluminum that is used

in EVs and other products from China

that are used from forced labor. We have

laws in this country against forced

labor. this man seemed to be paring the

line of the Chinese uh government and um

we're waiting now for a clarification

which will be with the prime minister's

uh office is a gun to his head and I'm

assuming it's going to be uh well we do

you know we I don't I didn't mean the

way it came across um and I suspect we

will not be hearing very much from

Michael Maw until the next election

campaign um But but it's not a joking

matter either. Um forced labor uh

particularly amongst weaguers has been

well documented. Uh the G7 countries

have acknowledged it. And for a a a city

member of parliament to somehow suggest

that this is not serious uh and that um

the witnesses is making this up uh

frankly is appalling.

>> My goodness, we agree with Robert Fefe.

See, we're not so different after all.

But he makes some good points like this

is a highly respected lady. Tanya talked

about this on our video earlier, which

you should see it because we go into a

lot of detail on this and we uncover

some other skeletons that Mark Carney

was hiding about China in that. But you

you look at that and the response that

she had to Michael Ma wasn't one of

discomfort.

It was more

of being incredulous that she's even

being asked this. Like you saw her being

like,