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of privilege which have agreed should

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take precedence today. I now call the

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leader of the opposition Kevin Mayok to

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move the motion.

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>> Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I beg to move

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the motion standing in my name on the

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order paper. Mr. Speaker, shall we pick

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up where we left off last Tuesday when

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we had an emergency debate about the

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government's accountability to

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Parliament over Peter Mandelson's

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appointment as our ambassador to the

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United States. The very next day, a

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prime minister's questions, the prime

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minister read out selective quotes from

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Sir Ollie Robbins evidence to the

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Foreign Affairs Select Committee and

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deliberately left out critical sections

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to make it seem as if Sir Ollie Robbins

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evidence had exonerated him. Outrageous.

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>> The Prime Minister told the House, and I

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quote, "No pressure existed whatsoever

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in relation to this case." That is not

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what the record shows. Let me read Sir

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Ollie Robbins exact quote. Throughout

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January, my office and the foreign

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secretary's office were under constant

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pressure. There was an atmosphere of

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constant chasing. So, how can the prime

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minister tell us that Sir Ollie Robbins

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said no pressure existed whatsoever?

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Everybody heard what Olly Robbins said.

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We are not here to test whether members

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have good hearing. People can go and

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look in Hansard. The question today as

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the as the speaker said is whether this

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should go to the privileges committee

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whether this house and labor MPs really

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believe in full due process. Whether

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Labour MPs have the integrity to refer

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the prime minister to the privileges

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committee knowing what we all know and

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can all read in Hansod.

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>> The ministerial code is very clear.

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Ministers who mislead the house must

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correct the record and I quote at the

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earliest opportunity.

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>> It is very obvious that the prime that

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the prime minister what the prime

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minister said at the dispatch box was

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not correct.

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>> It's clear that full due process was not

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followed. If Labour MPs allow the whips

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to force them to block the consequences

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of these decisions, it will degrade not

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just them but this house. The question

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is what kind of people are they? Are

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they people who will live up to the

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promises they made about standards and

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the rules mattering or are they people

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who abandon their promises to be

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complicit in a cover up?

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>> Yes, I will give way to the right

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honorable lady. On the 4th of February,

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we passed a humble address here in this

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house with a unanimous vote of well a

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unanimous opinion of the whole house

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that that the all of the documents

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should be made available and published

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and those that were were that wait for

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the question and those that were

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considered sensitive should go to the uh

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intelligence and security committee. her

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party accepted that the amend that

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amendment on the 4th of February if she

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wasn't going to wait for the outcome of

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that.

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>> Why is why is she within this process

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today?

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>> I think yes I think that is an excellent

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question. We asked for the release of

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documents and then when the evidence

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came showing the what the cabinet

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secretary had said in November 24 about

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what full due process was, it was very

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clear that those instructions had not

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been followed.

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>> We also know that this latest

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information about the problems with the

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security vetting did not come from the

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humble address. It came from a leak to

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the Guardian. So why should we wait for

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a never never process that is clearly

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not happening? Even members of the

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intelligence and security committee in

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that SA 24 debate last week said that

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there were delays to the release of the

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documents. So Mr. Speaker uh members uh

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opposite want uh to pretend that this is

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something that only one party is doing.

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Can I remind them that this is a cross

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party motion supported by independence.

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the Lib Dems, the DUP, the SNP members

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from across this house calling this a

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stunt is disrespecting this house and

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disrespecting

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disrespecting the speaker. It's very

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obvious. Listening listening to the

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media and their tweets, it's very

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obvious. They've all been told to come

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here today, tell everybody it's a stunt.

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Tell everybody it's a stunt. Why are

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they acting like sheep? Why are they

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acting like sheep? They should be better

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than that. We will be counting, by the

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way. Some people might even be shouting

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bingo at how many times people stand up

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and say that this is a stunt in this

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debate. We're looking forward to it.

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>> Mr. Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker,

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>> Mr. Speaker, there is a

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>> Yes. Yes, I will give way.

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>> I'm grateful to my right honorable

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friend. I I think she's being a little

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too harsh to the limited number of Labor

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MPs opposite.

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I mean, here we have the entire

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reputation of the prime minister of this

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country, the leader of their party, and

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they're not they're not turning out for

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him because they know that he is now a

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laughingstock. And having called round

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them, they found out they had to put a

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threeline whip to get them to protect

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his blushes. So, can my honorable friend

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be a little bit kinder to the members

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opposite, especially the brave ones who

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are actually prepared to come out and

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defend the indefensible?

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I thank I thank my right honorable

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friend uh for that intervention. I will

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do my best to be kind uh because he is

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right. There are more people here today

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than there were last time. So the whips

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have really been working hard in the

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last seven days. Last week not a single

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Labor MP bothered to intervene. Now oh

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we've got a we've got a second one. I'm

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going to take an intervention uh from

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the right gentleman and then I'll come

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to the to the Labor MP.

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>> Very grateful to the leader of the

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opposition. She's right to highlight the

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cross party nature of this motion and

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also question the applicability of a

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whip in refusing a motion before the

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House. Does she not agree? And should

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Labor MPs not consider that if there's

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nothing to hide, there's nothing to

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fear?

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>> The honorable gentleman makes an

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excellent point. I completely agree with

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him and in fact I will be making that

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case uh in due course. But I will give

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way to the honorable gentleman.

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>> Rushworth,

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>> I thank her for giving way. And a moment

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ago, she talked about selective quoting

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and I'm sure that she would not want to

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selectively quote Sir Ollie Robbins

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herself. So, could she tell us what the

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rest of that quote was? When when he

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talked about pressure, was he talking

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about pressure to deliver a decision in

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time for President Trump's inauguration?

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Or was he saying that he felt pressure

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to materially change what that decision

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would be? Because that is quite an

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important distinction, is it not?

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>> It is quite important. And if it was,

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why didn't the prime minister say so

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last week? Why didn't he say no pressure

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whatsoever? He should go and read the

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hands. Mr. Speaker, um Mr. Mr. Speaker,

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>> um yes, I will give way on that point.

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>> Friend, for giving way on that point,

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are we really suggesting in this debate

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in this chamber that anyone who does not

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fully comprehensively without any

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hesitation pass vetting should be given

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the most important role in our

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ambassadorship? The opposition seem to

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be suggesting that someone who is

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borderline that there are any red flags

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should be put in this sort of role. Is

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that not absolutely extraordinary

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process?

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>> It is. It is extraordinary. And the

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evidence which we've heard from the

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foreign affairs select committee this

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