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AMD KILLED Intel's 290K Dreams w/ R9 9950X3D2 (+ Arc Pro B70 Analysis)

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So today AMD finally announced the Ryzen

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9 9950X3D2,

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a dual Vcash monster with 208 megabytes

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of cache for both top tier gaming

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performance and top tier professional

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application performance as well. And

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then also today, Intel canled the Ultra

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9 290K Plus. And no matter what people

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try to say online, don't believe them if

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they tell you this was a coincidence.

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There is no way these dual announcements

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on the same day could be a coincidence.

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And uh also make no mistake that Intel

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was planning to launch a 290K. I mean,

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we literally got benchmarks of it months

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ago. I these things were out there.

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Intel was ready to launch it. And really

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what was going on behind the scenes,

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like I've been saying for a long time

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now in multiple pieces of content, is

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that there was a game of chicken going

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on between the 9950 X32 and the 290K

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Plus because Intel knows the 290K Plus

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would have made sense in a world where

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AMD does not launch a faster flagship,

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but it would not make sense outside of

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that. And again, AMD probably doesn't

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want to launch the 9950 X3D2 until they

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feel like they have to to crush Intel.

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And ultimately what we saw today was

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that Intel ended up being the one that

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blinked and decided to pull their

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release. Well, AMD decided it was

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finally time years after Zen 5 actually

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launched to get the new dual Vcash

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flagship out. But of course, all this

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begs a few questions like why would

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Intel blink now? And why did AMD take so

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long to finally release the catalyst

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that killed off any chances of Intel

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trying to compete with the 290K? Well,

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that's really what I'm going to answer

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in today's video. in addition to

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analyzing the release of Intel's new or

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really last GPU flagship, the B70 or Big

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Battle Mage. But first, let's stick with

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the 9950 X3D2 and the 290K. Um,

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undoubtedly, I believe the reason the

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290K isn't coming out is because Intel

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finally knew for a fact that AMD was

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going to pull the trigger on the 9950

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XD2. And and and don't kid yourself,

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there's been rumors of a 9950 XD2 coming

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out and really since Zen 5 launched. I

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mean, even Leo from K Guru came on

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Broken Silicon and said that he knew it

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was out there, that he knew people

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personally who had the CPU physically in

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their hands. And it was just a matter of

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will if AMD wanted to launch this thing

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that used extra Vcash capacity. Because

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as long as AMD can easily continue to

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dominate with the 9950 X3D not dual

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Vcash variant, the one they already have

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out, that thing's cheaper to produce and

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doesn't use up as much of the Vcash

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capacity that they could be using to

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just make tons of those eight cores that

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keep dominating Amazon's CPU best

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seller. However, AMD would have had to

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have taken the launch of a 290K Plus

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seriously once they saw its brethren,

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the 270 and 250K launch and then set

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into motion Intel making the decision,

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can we really compete with that at a

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attractive price that makes sense? And

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the answer was no. And the 290K Plus was

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cancelled. Now, why though wouldn't it

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be competitive? Well, let me get into

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the two main reasons. The first reason

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is that it really wouldn't have even

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really made sense compared to the 270K

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because it wouldn't be that much faster.

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Remember the 270K has the full 24 cores.

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The only difference between the 270K and

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290K would be clock speed. And in

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reality, I'm not sure even how much

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higher that clock speed would be. We saw

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no clock speed increase between the

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Ultra 7265K and the now released 270K

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Plus. And so I think I'm being generous

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when I assume maybe they'd get 100 MHz

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more out of it. And if they did, we're

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looking at about 5% higher clocks

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between the 290K and the 270K that's

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already being sold for rock bottom

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prices at $300. And so then let's take

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AMD's numbers that they put out, which I

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believe we can trust. They don't look

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insane to me at all. And compare what a

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9950 X3D2 would look like compared to

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A290K. And we see that well, yes, in

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some things like Blender, they'd

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probably be a tie. Then we go to V-Ray,

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AMD would dominate by double digits. And

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in gaming, I mean, good lord, they'd

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probably end up winning by 30% or more.

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And doing so, by the way, with greater

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efficiency. Not enough people are

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talking about this, but Aerake refresh,

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it's a powerhog. A 5.8 GHz version would

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probably feel almost like Raptor Lake

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again. I mean, look at this here. AMD is

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vastly more efficient, especially at

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gaming. Intel's only doing better here

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because they've gone back to their power

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hogging ways. And so in reality, the

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only reason you would get any of these

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Aerolic refresh products is because of a

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attractive price. And that is what all

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reviewers said. In fact, Gamers Nexus or

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Steve at Gamers Nexus directly said

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this.

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>> It's way better than the 285K. I mean,

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that CPU was a [ __ ] nightmare. Like

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their their 200 series launch was just

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awful. Uh we knew they were launching

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onto a dead-end platform. We got a

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refresh, so that's good. But that plus

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the fact that the CPUs were regressive

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versus the 14 series. It was just bad.

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It was. And the prices were pretty high

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too. They were like out of their [ __ ]

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minds with the $600 CPU thing. They were

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doing plus or minus 50 bucks sometimes.

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And I am sure Intel saw these things and

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said, "We tested the waters. We launched

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the Ultra 5 and Ultra 7. People do like

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it, but everyone says if it cost a scent

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more, it'd be hard to recommend. The

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290K would cost far more than just a

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cent more." And so we are cancelling it.

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And to anyone that says, well, why not

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just make it 350 or something, guys, uh

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I I gotta tell you, they probably

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wouldn't have that many golden sample

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yields. And these things are more

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expensive to make than AMD. So, well,

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Intel is probably willing to fight some

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kind of a price war in the $200 to $300

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region against AMD's, you know, Ultra 7s

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and Ultra Fives. That's probably only

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because they're getting rid of

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overstocked Aerolate because nobody

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bought it. It's been a complete sales

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failure. That's why it's so cheap is to

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get rid of it. Um, if they tried to go

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for even 400, 350 for some flagship and

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it actually hurt AMD. AMD's processors

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right now cost vastly less to make than

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Intel. I've covered that in dozens of

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videos. I'll put one on screen right now

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that really gets into it a little bit if

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you want to learn about that. But the

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point is, if Intel tried to be

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aggressive with pricing and it actually

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hurt AMD, AMD could price the 9950 XRD2

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cheaper than whatever Intel could do for

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the 290K. And so, well, there you go.

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That's what happened. AMD saw the Plus

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products come out. They pulled the

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trigger on the 9950X3D2. Intel saw that

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the only reason anyone would get their

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product is because it is cheap and

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there's no way it could be cheap enough

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to compete with what AMD is bringing to

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the table if they got into a real price

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war. And really, the thing would

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probably have been a power hog that

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would be impossible to recommend over

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the Ultra 7 if it cost even $50 more.

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And it surely would have. And that is

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why the 290K was cancelled today. All

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right. And now I want to move on to

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