Secret History #8: Death by Bureaucracy
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Okay, so welcome back from the break.
Today I want to talk about an incident
that happened in October 2015 at Yale
University. What happened was this um
Halloween is coming up and in Halloween
people like to dress up silly, get
drunk, have a good time.
and a university department called the
intercultural affairs committee sent an
email to students saying it's Halloween
you guys want to have fun that's fine
but please be sensitive
about the feelings of other people. So
for example do not dress up like a panda
because we have Chinese students and
they might be offended if you dress up
like a panda. Okay, so this email went
out to all the students at Yale
and one teacher who works at a resident
residential college called Silleon.
Okay. So Yale the university is divided
into dormitories called residential
colleges and she is a dean with her
husband of this college called Silleon
and to her students she writes an email
and says that she didn't agree with the
university email. She says that a
university is a place for you to
explore, experiment
and make mistakes. So
yes, be sensitive
about the feelings of others,
but we trust you to make mistakes and to
recover from them. Okay.
So um the debate was essentially over
safe space versus free space. The
university said that safe space is
important. We must respect the feelings
of others.
But the dean of Sillein, her name is
Erica Kustakis. She believes the idea of
free space.
So a university is a place for debate,
for questioning, for experimentation.
And yes, feelings will be hurt. That's
part of the growing up process, the
intellectual process. So let me ask you
a question. Do you guys agree with
number one who argues for safe space or
number two Erica Kakus who argues for
free space? What do you think?
Can sorry can can you speak into the mic
please?
>> Of why do I
>> Yeah. Why do you believe number two is
cor number one and number two is
correct? Oh, because I think that
university is a place that you could
explore yourself, you know, jump out of
your comfort zone and try the things
that you never had experienced before.
>> Okay. Who disagrees? Who believes it's
more important to respect the feelings
of others?
>> And like if if the college prohibit
these on dressing that maybe be
offensive to other uh students. It's
just in the campus. If you like walk out
in the society, it still will have the
people like wants to uh dress maybe like
a panda or something. So, um I think
it's
I think it's like necessary to like to
um to
well
uh Yeah.
>> Okay. All right. Any other opinions? Any
other opinions?
Okay. So, you say we start the rules,
right?
I think I think it depends on who
decided. It feels like for myself I
think free space will be more important.
I need to explore what I want but for
being as a leader being as a head of the
college I think safe space will be more
important for them because they need to
take in control.
>> Okay. Right. But the problem is this is
a conflict. Right.
>> If the teachers care about safe space
you cannot have free space.
>> Mhm.
>> Right. So the question then is what do
you think in principle is more important
free space or safe space?
>> Safe space.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. All right. Okay. So yeah. So most
students believe safe space is more
important and this marks a generational
shift because when I was growing up
there's no debate. It was just assumed
that free space is more important
because if you're not allowed to make
mistakes, if you're not allowed to
explore, if you're not allowed to argue
with other people, if your feelings
don't get hurt, you will never grow as a
person. Okay? So, this marks a
generational divide or generational gap.
Okay. So, um
we're going to look at what happened
because of this debate. So, the students
who read the email were offended
that Erica Kristakus was arguing for
free space because they believed that by
doing this you're going to hurt our
feelings.
All right? And so, let's look at what
happened. And remember, this is Yale
University.
So what's happening is that
when Chris Nicholas Kristakis, the
husband of Erica Kristakis
went to a meeting, he was surrounded by
students
>> and they're confronting you. Okay,
there's like 100 students
racism here telling you that you are
being racist. You were being offensive.
You admitted that you hurt us. Why can't
you say sorry
hurt you? I'm sorry.
One at a time, please one at a time.
It's very easy for any trivial world of
mine to be misinterpreted. So, I'm one
at a time. I'm happy to speak to you as
much as you want. I can't speak as much
because I have other students that need
time as well. So, unfortunately, a
little bit.
>> Okay. So,
look, I'm not saying which side is
correct. Okay? Both sides have
legitimate points. Both sides have
problems. But you will notice that he
the professor, he's much older than the
students.
And the students are treating him, you
can see their faces, right? They're
treating him with some contempt
and that's not appropriate.
>> And when I was growing up, we didn't do
this.
>> If you didn't like a professor, you
thought, well, he's an And but
you know what? Most professors are
because they're professors.
Okay? You didn't you did not go and like
stalk the guy and complain to him.
That's kind of disrespectful.
All right. So the question then is why
is this happening? So I want to show you
another video.
And this video is kind of crazy.
introvertly learn.
>> Okay, this video
you understand that as your decision of
matter, it is your job to create a place
of comfort and home for the students
that live in Silus.
>> You have not done that. By sending out
that email, that goes against your
position as master. Do you understand
that?
>> No, I don't agree with that.
>> Then then why the did you accept
the position? because I have
>> Bob hired you.
>> Okay, so this is not appropriate. Okay,
again both sides have legitimate points,
but this is not appropriate, right?
Because what she's saying to him is you
work for us. Your job is to make us feel
at home. And his response is that my job
is to help you learn. My job is to help
you grow. And that means openness. That
means debate. That means pain. And her
response is, "I don't want that crap. I
want to feel good. I want to feel at
home. I don't be challenged."
And if you think about it, that defeats
the entire point of university.
So again, I'm not saying who's right. Um
I'm not saying who's wrong, but clearly
there's a problem here. And when I went
to Yale a long time ago, we didn't have
any of this. In fact, this sort of
incident where a student would curse a
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