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No.1 Christianity Expert: The Truth About Christianity! The Case For Jesus (Historian's Proof)

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Am I going to hell?

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>> Yes. But here's the thing. Everybody is

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going to hell. And it's not because they

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don't believe in God. And look, I'm a

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historian and a theologian. So, I study

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ancient biblical manuscripts. And if you

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truly understand what this book is

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saying, I don't want you to experience

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that.

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>> This is not a place I want to go. So,

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what do I do about that?

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>> It's not about trying to earn my way

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into heaven. It's not about checking

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off. I read the Bible as many times. I

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didn't lie. I didn't steal. I didn't

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cheat. Like, it's none of that. But

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here's the problem. Unfortunately, we

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bought the lie that we are the sum of

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our actions, where we're chasing after

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things that aren't going to give us what

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we actually need. Which is also why we

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live in a world that is lacking in

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purpose and meaning.

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>> But the part that I've always struggled

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with is that the answer being religion

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as an antidote to that feeling because I

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require a really high standard of

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evidence because of the way that I am.

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>> Well, I think not only can it provide an

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antidote, it can provide the antidote.

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And I'll explain why. like how can we

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trust human accounts of these things and

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then how do you take people who agree

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that there's clearly something missing

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to believing that what's written in the

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Bible is the thing that should guide my

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life also do you have any doubt oh

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especially when there are times of

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struggle and pain and suffering [music]

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like the whole Epstein thing right now

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we are seeing examples of true evil so

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there are moments where I think how

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could there be a good god [music]

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however from my investigation I am

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convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that

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there's actual evidence for the

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existence of God the historical

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reliability of the Bible and the

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philosophical explanations for meaning

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and purpose.

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>> And what is that?

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>> First, we have

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>> that is some of the most persuasive

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evidence one can receive.

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being part of this journey. Means the

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world. And uh yeah, let's do this.

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[music]

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Wesley, I have this fascinating uh graph

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in front of me here and it shows several

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things that I find to be really really

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interesting. One of them is that as of

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2024,

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the decline of religion has started to

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level off and actually increase a little

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bit. And now 63% of US adults identify

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as Christian, which is roughly 160

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million people. In 2025, Bible sales hit

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a 21-year high in the United States with

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19 million units sold. Weekly Bible

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reading amongst US adults has increased

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to 42%, which is up 12% since 2024. And

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in 2024, Christian and gospel music

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streams in the US increased by roughly

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20% according to the Washington Times.

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Wesley, what is going on in society? If

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we zoom out,

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>> I think we're in a unique bubble where

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we found ourselves in a time frame where

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we're connected more than ever. We've

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kind of come out of a period of time

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where the new atheism is very, very

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popular. You had Dawkins, Daniel, uh,

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Daniel Dennett, Sam Harris, Christopher

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Hitchens, and they made a big impact in

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the early 2000s.

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>> I think we should probably just give

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some color to what new atheism is.

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>> Sure. Yeah.

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>> I've actually got a graph here, which

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I'll throw up on the screen, which shows

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the rise and then the the fall of new

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atheism, but I was pulled in by new

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atheism.

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>> And that meant that I, and again, I

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should probably preface my beliefs

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because people are going to want to know

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what my bias is when I'm asking

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questions. I grew up in a very Christian

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household up until the age of 18. I then

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became agnostic/ atheist when I started

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consuming a lot of this stuff from

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Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris and all

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of these people. And then I find myself

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at a point now where I'm just

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open-minded and curious,

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>> but I have lots of questions. Yeah, you

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had these individuals who are writing

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these very influential works. But I

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sometimes wonder whether the new atheism

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movement worked a lot more effectively

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in print than it did in actual real

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life. Like in terms of the practicality

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of the application of the things that

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were being talked about, especially in

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regards to meaning, if you apply ideas

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like you being a product of time plus

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matter plus chance, what does that

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actually give you in terms of the

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ultimate identity questions? And so I

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think I think that's true in a lot of

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circumstances where you have these seeds

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that are planted and they grow and they

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produce trees that produce fruit that

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are kind of hard to digest in their

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actual application. And along with that,

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we have a world that's very complex.

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We're more connected than we ever have

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been. I don't know if we're truly we

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were ever truly meant to know as much

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information as we do, especially about

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things that are going on around the

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world and things that are hard to to

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comprehend. And so what I think that all

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kind of adds up to is people asking

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questions about, okay, I'm here. I'm

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right now trying to figure out what's

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going on. How do I actually find out the

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answers to a lot of these questions that

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just go beyond the here and the now that

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I'm experiencing? This is what um

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individuals like James K. Smith called

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the dynamics of disenchantment where

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people are struggling with these

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transcendent questions, questions that

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are metaphysical that go beyond just the

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here and the now in the world. Why is

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the three pounds of gray matter in my

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brain able to comprehend the

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complexities of the universe? How do I

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how do I come up with a solution to that

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problem? So, I think that's part of it.

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I think it's kind of moving on in a

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world that just is probably more messy

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than it's ever been. A lot of countries,

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the UK, Europe, Canada, America, all of

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these western countries,

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they they were founded on these

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Judeo-Christian ethics of foundations

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that come from the Old and the New

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Testaments, what we call the Bible. And

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a lot of people kind of attempted to

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divorce the religious aspect from the

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societies. And societies became less and

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less overtly religious in those natures.

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And then a lot of people saw that their

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parents were no longer going to church.

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Like the Bible wasn't part of kind of

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the household any longer. And I talked

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to a lot of young people who look at

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that and they say in almost like a

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rebellion against their parents, they're

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now interested in that. Their parents

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rebelled by disassociating from

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religion. And [clears throat] now I

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wonder if there's part of a rebellion in

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kind of looking back and trying to

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reclaim some of that religious stuff. I

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think in part as well this younger

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generation, Gen Z's and I guess to some

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