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World No.1 Divorce Lawyer: If You Do This, Your Marriage Is Already Over.

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If you had to give one relationship

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ritual to stay in love, what would that

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be? Once a week, tell your [music]

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partner three things that you love about

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them and three things they could have

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done better.

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>> But some people thinking, well, and if I

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told Dave that we're going to start

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writing these notes to each other, he's

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going to cringe [music] and not going to

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do it. [ __ ] Honestly, Dave can't

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name three things he likes about you.

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Really, Dave? Is that a big ask? I

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absolutely call bull on that. The bigger

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question is what's uncomfortable about

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that for you? And look, I'm not a

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therapist. I'm a divorce lawyer. I

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represent some of the most high

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achieving minds, athletes,

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entrepreneurs, and they're just as bad

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at this as anybody because there's a

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part of us that's afraid to poke at what

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do you love about me? What am I getting

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wrong? And it's not just romantic

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relationships. Like,

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my mom died 10 years ago after a long

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battle with cancer.

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There was a lot between us that needed

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to be said and [music] wasn't said.

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And there's a part of me that wishes she

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was here so that I could have apologized

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[music] for some things I got wrong. But

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we don't do that because people just

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don't want temporary discomfort. [music]

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And so I think there's something deeply

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courageous about love, about commitment,

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about saying I'm going to give them the

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opportunity to hurt me. Like it's scary,

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[music] but I'm brave. You know, your

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marriage will end. It ends in death or

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divorce. And for two people at the end

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of their relationship to say, "This

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person helped me become the most

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authentic version of myself." That's the

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greatest gift you could give to another

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human being. And as you can see from

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this photo, I just proposed to my

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fiance. I'd like some advice on how not

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to mess this up. Like if my fiance ends

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up walking into your practice, what is

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the reason she's likely to end up there?

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The number one reason that I'm going to

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have a woman sitting across from me,

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divorcing someone who's a great

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provider, great protector is

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>> that is not obvious to everybody

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>> and it'll keep me in business for the

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rest of my life.

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world. And uh yeah, let's do this.

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[music]

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[singing]

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James,

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as you can see from this photo, I just

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proposed to my fiance and gladly she

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said yes. So, I've brought you here in

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part because I'd like some advice on how

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not to mess this up because I know from

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speaking to you previously about 50% of

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people that get down on their knee end

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up messing it up in some way. Before we

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get into this though, and before you

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help me figure out how to stay in love

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and not mess it up.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Where do you find us at as it relates to

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love as a society? If you were to zoom

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out and diagnose society's relationship

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with the subject of love and their um

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ability to keep it, find it, and

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understand it, where are we?

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>> I think we we're in this really

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uncomfortable moment as a culture. I

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think we we want more than anything to

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feel real connection. I think we're sick

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of just looking at screens. I think we

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came out of the pandemic with a feeling

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of, okay, I want to be in the world with

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other people and feel the warmth of real

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people.

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And yet, we have an increasingly

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lower number of useful tools in finding

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connection and staying connected, which

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are two totally different skills. And

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yet we're yearning for it more than

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ever. So we're more hungry than we've

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ever been and we have no idea how to

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cook

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>> in your head because you've seen so many

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people go through divorce and

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relationships fail.

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>> There must be a sort of checklist of

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things that I'm likely to mess up.

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>> Yeah. I mean, well, you know, first of

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all, when I when I knew you, you know,

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heard you got engaged,

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>> I was thrilled because I'm always

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cheering for people. I really am. I'm

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always cheering for love. And so I think

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in our prior conversations, you're

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obviously someone who loves very deeply

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and and the fact that you found this

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person, you know, [clears throat] to me

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is the most lovely thing. You know, I I

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think at its core, this is your favorite

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person. I just can't think of anything

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more lovely than that. Like the idea

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that you would look at a person and go,

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"You're my favorite person." And and

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that person would look at you and say,

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"You're my favorite person." And that

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you would know that it's true. like when

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they say it that it's true. Like that

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that feels to me like something worth

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pursuing. That feels like something that

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if I tried to get it and I failed, I'd

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try again because if you could find it,

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it's just about the greatest thing in

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the world. Like the the thought to me

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that, you know, I I I won't get to give

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a toast at your wedding, but I will say

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that if I was going to give the toast,

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it would be that there are two wishes I

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have for you. You know, your marriage

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will end. I mean, I've said it to you

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before in one of our first

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conversations. Every marriage ends. It

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ends in death or divorce. I hope yours

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ends in death. And I hope when it ends

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in death that let's send you off first

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that when you're dying that she will say

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hopefully to you or to those around,

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you helped me become the most authentic

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version of myself and you're still my

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favorite person.

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Because I can't think of a greater

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blessing than that. like for two people

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at the end of their life, at the end of

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their relationship to say, "This person

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helped me become the most authentic

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version of myself and they're still my

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favorite person." That's the greatest

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gift you could give to another human

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being, I think. And I like the idea that

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even in the face of knowing that this is

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risky, this is something that may not

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work, this is something that

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statistically the odds are against, but

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I'm going to give it a shot because, you

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know, there's something it adds to my

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life and there's something I add to her

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life and, you know, we're going to we're

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going to give it a shot. I don't know. I

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found that very beautiful. As a divorce

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lawyer who is also a very big fan of

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love, do you ever find yourself trying

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to get someone not to get a divorce, has

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there ever been an instance where you

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you looked at the situation and thought,

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you know what, they should just get back

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together? Yeah. I what I'll say is my

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first thought is often,

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is this person accurately perceiving the

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situation that they're in? So people

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will come in and they'll say, you know,

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it really people come to me in very

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different situations. So sometimes

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people will come to me and they're

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they're they've been served with divorce

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