Former Labour MP sends BOMBSHELL letter calling for PM to be hauled before the Privileges Committee
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Now back to domestic politics. Kia
Starmer's week from hell somehow just
got worse. The prime minister could face
a privileges committee inquiry into
whether he lied to MPs about the
Mandlesson scandal. The scandals. Well,
Carl Turner, a suspended Labour Party
MP, has written to Sir Lindseay Hall,
the common speaker today, urging him to
refer the prime minister to that
committee. I'm delighted now to be
joined by the man of the moment. It is
now the independent MP for Kingston upon
Hist, Carl Turner MP. Carl, welcome to
the show. It's a pleasure to have your
company. Thank you very much for joining
us. May I ask you, what drove you to
write to the speaker like this in such a
dramatic manner about Karma?
>> Good evening, Martin. Well, the first
thing I ought to say is I've had to
write to the speaker today to apologize
for publication of that correspondence
because it was in breach of the
conventions of the house. Uh but it was
an administrative error within my
office. But I can tell you I've not
dismissed anybody. I take responsibility
for what goes on in my office myself. Uh
what uh urged me to do this is the prime
minister spoke in prime minister's
questions on Wednesday. He was he was uh
questioned by the leader of his
majesty's loyal opposition and some of
the things he said was very much
inconsistent in my view with the
evidence that Siri Robbins gave to the
select committee the previous day.
That's the reason. I don't suggest the
prime minister has lied deliberately or
otherwise but I've asked the speaker to
consider referral to the privileges
committee to find out what's gone on.
Cole Turner. Many people will see this
as an attempt to put the prime minister,
your former boss, in the crosshairs of
an inquiry the likes of which a sleas
probe finished off Boris Johnson. Are
you trying to bring down the prime
minister?
>> Well, people have accused me today of
being disgruntled because I lost the
wit. The reality is I don't bear
grudges, but what I do is bear uh the
necessity for decency and integrity in
Parliament. That's what I'm saying about
it. I'm to believe it's true. It's not
about grudge. It's about the fact that
when things are said in parliament, we
ought to do our very best to make sure
what we say is true. And if we don't
know for sure that what we're saying is
correct, we ought to be there fairly
swiftly to correct the record. If that
goes, Martin, it's pointless having the
thing there. Coler, we've had two Labour
Party MPs on GB News these past two days
asking for Shakir Stalmer to stand down.
Jonathan Brash was first yesterday.
Graeme Stringer today. Both asking,
demanding, saying the time is up, Sakir
Stormer. Carl Turner, would you like to
be the third?
>> Martin, I'm not going to be calling for
the prime minister to resign as the PM.
I don't think he should at the moment.
But what I do say is I'm afraid to tell
him, and I've said it directly via text
messages, the mood in the parliamentary
Labor Party is not very good. Uh it
doesn't matter what wing you are of the
parliamentary Labor Party, whether it's
the left or the right of the party.
There is a great deal of disgruntlement
amongst colleagues. And we are concerned
that unfortunately the prime minister
has got himself, nobody else, himself
into a situation which cannot continue
much longer. And the reality is the
elections are coming in what is it 14
days from now, a couple of weeks from
now, uh members of parliament will go
back, they'll assess what it means for
their seats. For example, if I was to
face the country tomorrow, I'm afraid to
say I would be booted out of my seat in
Eastall and I would be succeeded by a
reform candidate. That's the reality.
And when MPs start to look at the the
truth of what's happening on the ground,
they tend to concentrate their attention
and they start to say it's time to go.
That's the truth.
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>> Maybe be careful what you wish for. If
Saki Stormer is ousted as prime
minister, it could be succeeded by
somebody to the political left even of
him, Angela Raina perhaps, Andy Burnham,
Ed Milliban, you know. Are you are you
are you sure you want to set these
wheels in motion? M
>> well look I'm not concerned about
whether he's replaced by this person or
that person. I hope the prime minister
survives. I'm afraid to say it's looking
unlikely in my view. I've been around
politics a long time. I've been doing
politics since I was a child at school.
That's the reality. I've been in
parliament since 2010. I tend to have a
decent nose for it when the PM's in
bother. Whether it was Boris Johnson in
the previous parliament or this truss or
whether it's my own prime minister in
this parliament, things are looking
fairly grim. And I'm afraid to say he's
got to get a grip really fast or else
he'll be out.
>> Cole Turner, I'm joined by our political
editor Chris Hope. He has a question for
you, sir.
>> Thanks Carl and thanks for coming on GB
News. Just to ask you quickly, when you
were texting the prime minister, was he
texting you back saying thanks for the
advice, Carl? Chris, my relationship
with K has always been really good. I
was in his his flat in Downing Street
not so many weeks ago telling him that
he needed to get rid of Max Sween
>> before everybody else was telling him to
get rid of Max. That's the relationship
I've had with Kia. I've always
considered him as a friend. But I tell
you what, I've been an honest friend to
Kia and I'm sorry to say he doesn't
listen very well to advice that people
are prepared to give him. I think the
truth is Kia prefers people speaking to
him and giving advice who he wants to
hear from on the basis that they're
going to tell him the stuff that he
wants to hear. I've never done that with
Karma. I've always told him the truth.
This whole thing started, by the way,
suspension and everything else on the
basis that I told him that the idea of
doing away with jury trials was the
worst idea that any political party
could ever have in the entirety of
politics. Even Robert Buckland, the
former justice secretary under the Tory
government who had the very best excuse
to do away with jury trials resisted in
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