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Mike Graham, the two Mikes. You guys

were a massive hit

and then you fell out and haven't spoken

again. Simply, Mike decided he didn't

want to be a part of the two Mikes

again. He's never told anybody,

including me, why he decided to stop,

but he just stopped and that was it.

Immigration, one of the most divisive

issues in Britain at the moment.

>> I think we let far too many people into

this country. The whole thinking process

has got to be changed. What do you think

is the biggest problem in Britain today?

The biggest problem in my view to come

would be if

Welcome to the Daily Express. I'm JJ and

this is your being this is the

magnanimous Mike Parry. It's very kind.

[laughter]

Mike, thanks for coming in. I'm going to

go to the the first question that most

people who watch you on TV and I see the

comments people ask me about your

relationship with this guy all the time.

Mike Graham, the two Mikes. You guys

were a massive hit

and then you fell out and didn't and

haven't spoken again.

Yeah, look, I've known Mike for over 35

years. We first started working together

in New York in the mid-80s. We were the

two youngest correspondents there. I

worked for the Daily Express, this fine

newspaper,

and Mike was a freelancer building a

good business there.

And then

Mike eventually came back to England. I

think he wanted his children educated in

this country, right?

We worked together on the Express again.

I was the news editor actually at the

Express for 5 years and I I helped bring

Mike in because he was a talented

journalist. And our relationship

developed into us working together then

in radio and then in live shows. We did

theater tours of this country 3 or 4

years. We also had a sellout show in New

York

next to Madison Square Garden. Wow.

>> And it was all going very well. It was

very successful and

you know, I don't know. You you look at

some of the world's greatest pop groups

and I wouldn't I wouldn't put us in that

category, but Pink Floyd for instance,

you know, and and Black Sabbath and me,

they they split up and never talked to

each other again for 20 years. I mean,

look at the most recent one, Oasis,

okay, you know,

and that sort of thing and

simply Mike decided he didn't want to be

a part of the two Mikes again, which is

entirely his decision. You know, we'd

had a fantastic run, very popular record

figures on our podcasts, sellout shows,

but Mike didn't want to do it anymore

and that's entirely up to him. He's

never told anybody, including me, why he

decided to stop, but he just stopped and

that was it. Okay. You've also worked

with Alan Brazil. He's a big character.

What's he like?

Al's a huge character. Some people say

of a person, you know, "Oh, when that

guy

walks in, he lights up the room." Alan

Brazil could light up a cathedral,

right? Alan Brazil is the most amazing

gregarious,

intelligent, interesting man that I've

ever worked with. I've worked with Al

probably 25 years. We started the

TalkSport breakfast show together from

nothing. I mean, literally, we didn't

have an audience

because what happened was

the company that bought Talk Radio

decided then to change it to TalkSport,

very clever move, okay, involving some

very clever people, but I was in on that

from the ground. We changed it to

TalkSport. What we desperately needed

was a fantastic breakfast show to get it

off the ground and so we we tried

getting big names in. Do you remember

John McCririck, the

the betting punter?

Other names from the world of racing and

the world of football and nothing was

working. No one nothing was going there.

I

brought Al in to do a couple of evening

shows and I realized what an

effervescent character he was. So I said

to him one day, "Listen, Al, I want you

to help me out next week." He said,

"How's that, Porky?" He always called me

Porky from day one, you know. Yeah,

yeah, he branded me Porky and I've been

paying for that ever since. That's nice,

isn't it?

>> [laughter]

>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is just to be clear,

is it Porky because of your appearance?

>> Well, in those days I was about 5 stone

heavier. It was before my heart

collapsed.

So I was a sizable bit of meat, you know

what I mean?

>> Were you as big as Alan Brazil was? No,

nobody's ever as big as Alan Brazil,

[laughter]

but nevertheless, the point of my story

is I said

I said, "Al, I want you to do some

breakfast shows for me." And

[clears throat] he said, I remember this

to this day, it's 25 years on and I'll

tell you about the problems we had in

between. He said, "Oh, Porky, I'm not

very good at getting up."

>> [laughter]

>> Believe me, that was proven many times

over the subsequent years, but

nevertheless,

I mean, his character is effervescent,

his his sense of humor, his inside

knowledge and football and all that

meant that the figures went from nothing

to about 2.3 million within about 18

months, you know. Wow.

>> And I'm not blowing my own trumpet, but

I couldn't find anybody to work with Al.

So everybody who came in and I said,

"No, look, I want you to do it like

this." So I sat in for an hour and did

it and then [snorts] it didn't work and

somebody else I wanted to do it like

that. Eventually, we came to the

decision that what best worked and what

the audience most both best liked was me

working with Al. So I said, "We'll give

it a try." So anyway, we ended up doing

a 4-hour breakfast show 6 days a week

from 6:00 till 10:00. We did Monday

through Saturday and we did that for 5

years.

And that was, you know, that was how it

worked specially with Al because Al is

the one thing Al has no

inclination of at all is

self-discipline, not at all, okay?

And he's gregarious and he's outgoing

and he's terribly funny and amusing and

a terrific guy to work with. And how

he's lasted 25 years, I have absolutely

no idea because sometimes people say,

"Oh, well, you know, he lived his life

to the full." Al has lived his life

very, very, very much to the full

and he's still going strong.

>> [laughter]

>> What's the most chaotic moment you've

ever had live on air? With Al? Just in

general. Well,

I

two different views on this.

I was in the office on the day of the

9/11 strike in New York.

>> Right.

>> And because I'd worked in New York for

the Daily Express, funnily enough, and

and at other times, I knew the geography

of Manhattan, so I went in and I did 7

and 1/2 hours that day just being able

to explain the pictures to our radio

listeners, the towers coming down. You

know, the area of Manhattan where where

they'd fallen, how people were coming

down, you know, FDR, the East River

Drive, how they were escaping from

Manhattan, what I thought would be

happening, you know, and the the fire

engines and all that kind of stuff. So

that I mean, that was monumental,

absolutely monumental, but probably the