President of France on Trump, India, Modi, Tech & Future | H.E. Emmanuel Macron | FO473 Raj Shamani

France invented a lot of early

technologies in the world.

But today if you look the scenario the

largest technology companies in the

world are either American or Chinese.

Many of them are led by Indian origin

CEOs.

Where did France lack?

>> I I I think the missing point is first

scale not just for the French but for

all the Europeans. Second capital and

the third point we have to find more

appetite for risk.

>> France has been an all-weather friend

for India.

>> The question is no longer whether India

innovates. The question is who will

innovate with India

and France is the uni clear answer.

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>> do you think this is going to be an

example for the world that now the new

world order is about multipolarity? Do

you think India and France are setting

an example?

>> French president Emanuel Macron is the

chief guest.

>> French president Emanuel Macron has been

invited as the chief guest at the public

day.

>> We develop during the past few years a

series of cooperations and partnerships

in different sectors with your country.

>> I I really believe that when we team up

we deliver. Second, we don't want to be

dependent on one of the two big power.

We want to have good relation with the

US and China. We have different

relationship by the way with both of

them between India and France and we are

supporter of this approach.

India leapfrogged in technology. our

Aadhaar, UPI, TG locker, things like

this be created and got so many people

in the system, right? If you have to bet

on one technology for France, which will

be your moonshot for 2035,

>> quantum computer will be where we we can

take the lead and have a leadership.

>> Quantum computer,

>> quantum technology.

>> What on earth is a quantum computer?

>> Whichever nation first develops a

practical [music] quantum computer will

have a tremendous advantage. quantum

supremacy

>> is is the work happening in the back end

like

>> yeah I think so because we have a unique

mathematicians new capacities and a lot

of very performing startups [music] and

labs

>> I saw that you announced about €109

billion one year ago for the AI

infrastructure for the technology to

lead it forward but here's a question

out of that 50 billion euro is coming

from UAE so money is foreign funded

infrastructure is going to be largely

owned by UAE. The technology and

intelligence is coming from America and

China. What's going to be sovereign

about this when it's actually

collaboration of the world not just

Europe?

If some founder is watching this or a

student who's 22 year old is watching

this, they want to come to France then

what does France offer which today a US

and UK doesn't offer for the young

startup founders or the [music] people

who want to build for the future.

>> A unique ecosystem. First, I want to

convey the message to your your

students, Indian students. If you come

to France, you can get access to the the

best quality universities and high

schools. Second, the language is clearly

is English. And I I really believe that

France provides the unique mix of large

companies, a lot of institutions, and at

the same time the most vibrant startups

innovation ecosystem in Europe.

Donald Trump shared your private

messages.

>> Private message meant for diplomacy

[music]

has exploded into a public political

storm.

>> He threatened to put 200% tariff on you.

You've called this administration anti-

Europe. Does this convey something about

American leadership today? Should the

world be scared?

>> I I really believe that respect is is

part of the leadership. You can share

ideas or not? You can disagree, but you

have to do it in a respectful way within

democracies as well. This is why I've

always been extremely committed to fight

against any sort of hatred speech or

violence in our societies because when

you have democracy, you have the right

to change your leadership. You decide

who will take the law and pass the law

on your behalf. So no need to be violent

>> and disrespectful. But

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and trying all our best to make sure

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>> This is mine. Thank you for being here.

>> Thank you.

>> I'm happy to be in Mumbai with you.

>> Tell me before we start actually for 0

01% people who don't know who you are

and they're watching you for the first

time. They have no clue. What would you

tell them about yourself in next 30

seconds? Who you are and what you do?

I'm French guy [gasps and laughter] here

in Mumbai because I am invited invited

by your prime minister and happy to be

here by the way and um

involved in a in a in a very peculiar

job and [laughter]

for for the past few years and um full

of appetite and enthusiasm especially

for other culture.

>> Lovely. And you're also an enthusiast. I

saw that yesterday that you're the guy

who loves breaking protocol and running

around the street to jog, right?

>> Exactly. [clears throat] We joged

yesterday morning.

>> Yeah. How was that experience?

>> Oh, wonderful.

>> It was a little bit hectic. Okay.

>> Because of uh I mean the all all the

traffic in the city, but [snorts] it was

great and I mean it was fun first to

exercise and second to to have the

interactions without too much security.

you always have a little bit security

but when it's uh I would say unexpected

and non-organized you can indeed break

the protocol. So early in the morning I