Mark Carney Hit With Final Warning – “Get A Deal Or It’s Over” | MP Chris Lewis

What is the worst case scenario if there

is no deal that comes for these business

owners? What happens to those 58,000

jobs?

>> They're gone forever. So, the jobs are

lost, the business is lost, the tax base

is gone. Um, this is this is imminent.

Like, absolutely imminent.

>> That industry also feeds the 2.1 million

manufacturing jobs that are in Canada.

What happens then?

There's a number I want you to think

about. 2.1 million.

That's the amount of jobs that are in

the Canadian economy that have to do

with manufacturing.

Now, think about another number, 58,000.

That's the amount of jobs that comprise

the mold, tool, and dye industries in

Canada.

And that number is especially important

because that industry is under threat

right now.

Not one year from now, not five years

from now, between three and six months

from now because of the latest 232

tariffs that have come down from

President President Donald Trump. We

covered this in committee the other day

and there was powerful testimony that

was delivered by many of the business

owners that chose to come to Ottawa to

fight for their business and their

employees because Ottawa has not been

listening. And Mark Carney has not been

working.

He needs to be doing his job and going

down to Washington until he gets a deal

with Donald Trump. Because if he

doesn't,

the mole, tool, and die industry could

end up vanishing from the Canadian

economy forever and having a

catastrophic impact on the 2.1 million

jobs in manufacturing across the

country.

Joining us to talk about this today is

Member of Parliament Chris Lewis from

Essex. and he is literally at ground

zero of where the mold tool and die

industry is in Canada. So Chris, thanks

for joining us on Northern Perspective

today.

>> Well, thank you so very much, Ry. It's

such an important topic. Um there's just

so many jobs at risk, so many businesses

that are literally hemorrhaging and have

no clarity, no clarity, and it's all

about the uncertainty and how do you run

a business in uncertain times. So it

it's an honor to be here. I thank you so

much for educating uh Canadians from

coast to coast to coast quite frankly.

Of course uh the the Essex Windsor

region um is probably the most

influential uh when it comes to mold and

tool and diet, but Quebec equally uh has

a lot of tool and dye and mold there as

well. So um it's but again it's across

the country. So it's a wildly important

topic. So before we get started, Chris,

there's a special special message that

you have for a special someone today,

isn't there?

>> Yeah, there is. And unfortunately, I'm

not with that special someone right now,

but hopefully maybe even this afternoon

I will be. Um my wife my wife Allison's

50th birthday today. So um I love you

lots. I love you dearly. Um thanks for

allowing me to do what I do. Thanks for

giving me the freedom to do what I do.

um she knows it's a passion of mine, but

but the sacrifice that she makes for

myself and for our family is enormous

and I couldn't do this without her. So,

happy birthday, sweetie.

>> Now, were these tariffs that came down

from President Trump on April 6th, were

they a surprise to the industry? They

they must have been.

>> If I had shipped the part on Holy

Thursday or Good Friday, it would have

cost me $1,500 in tariffs. But because

we delayed till the following week after

Easter Monday, uh it's now $36,000.

So not $1,500. And it's hard to wrap

your have to wrap the brain around.

These numbers are real. And this is on a

$244,000

tool.

>> That's that's an insane number. That

that means his tariff cost on that one

part went up by over 1,000%.

>> Yes.

>> Which is insanity. And for those that

don't know, um, so the the way this

happened is before April 6th, and you

can correct me if I'm wrong, but my

understanding is that for every tool

they shipped, they would have to pay a

tariff that uh that was on the 232

tariffs based on the value of the steel

that was in that product or whatever,

correct?

>> Uh, whatever metal that was in there.

and they would have to pay, you know, 10

to 15% on that. So if the steel was

valued at $100, they would pay between

10 and $15. But now, now

what has happened? So you're you're

absolutely correct. That's what it was

previously. So there's a there was a

tariff for the the um US steel, there

was a tariff on Canadian steel, and a

tariff on Chinese steel. So instead now

of saying there's going to be various

tariffs that will all go into the just

the tool itself, what the new 232 tariff

now says is it's on the complete price

of the tool. So it's on the purchase

order price, which also would include

all of your labor, right? All of your

overhead, all of those things is what

they're paying a tariff on now. And

that's why we're seeing the wild tariffs

going up. And that's why I think even a

more important point to this whole

thing, Ryan, is um this very tool, they

got the PO last year, last May.

So a year ago, this was this was what

they've been working on. All those 1,500

labor hours into one tool. You think

about how many jobs that is. But they

started it last year and now with the

flick of a switch, it goes from 1,500 to

36,000. And I guess the big question is

so why is Prime Minister Carney not in

the United States screaming about this?

And why does he think it's okay to just

to to punt the to punt the ball down the

road? Uh it's not okay. It's wrong and

people are going to be losing their jobs

quickly.

>> So ladies and gentlemen, this is a

example of some of the numbers from one

of the companies that was actually in

committee yesterday and this is what

Chris is talking about right now. So

some proprietary information has been

removed. So it keeps the confidentiality

of the client and the actual tool

itself. But you can see the purchase

order date was from May 19th of 2025.

And there's four purchase orders here.

And you can see the price. This is the

price to the customer. So this is

supposed to include any margin that the

the company would actually earn. So they

sold it for $359,000

on the first one, 173 second, 205 on the

third, and 129 in the fourth. So here's

where it gets complicated. The steel

tariffs came in on August 18th of 2025.

So that price already went up 13,871

or around 4,000 or 3,600 on the other

products. So the company said, "Okay,

we'll just absorb that. Not a problem."

Well, now

now the tariff on that has gone up to

53,000, 26,000, 30,000, and 19,000. So

when when they were expecting to pay

around $25,000 to absorb the tariffs

that were implemented in August, now

those tariffs are looking at $130,000

for all of them for an extra $14,000

that they did not expect to actually

pay. And this drives up that total tool

price to $1 million

on all of those orders.

So I guess the I guess the first

question that that should be asked is so

when these tariffs came down, did the

business owners try reaching out to the

government? Did they try reaching out to

the minister and and cabinet? And did

they get any response?

>> Yeah, I don't I don't know any specifics

on that. um they're very very wise

people with a whole bunch of