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BREAKING | Labour MPs BLOCK sleaze investigation into Keir Starmer in controversial Government vote

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Uh it's been quite the interesting day

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for our prime minister K Starmer. So

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without further ado then let's cross

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live to our political editor Christopher

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Hope. Christopher, good evening to you.

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It's been quite the day and it will be

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quite the evening as well. Tell us more.

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>> It really will Michelle. I'm talking to

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you from historic Westminster Hall where

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Charles the First was tried. All sorts

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of dramas have taken place here and

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today is the latest drama we're seeing

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in the House of Commons as the prime

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minister has tried to fight off claims

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he would be put himself towards some

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form of committee in the House of

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Commons to work out whether he misled um

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parliament um over the issue of

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appointing Peter Manson as ambassador.

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He must deeply regret that. You're

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looking at on screen now at Darren

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Jones. He is the prime minister, chief

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secretary of the prime minister. Um he's

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wrapping up this 4-hour long debate. If

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you can, this is the actual motion

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they're debating. I can you can see it

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now. There are two key points in this is

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whether the PM didn't follow due process

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in the appointment of Peter Manson and

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whether uh whether MPs agree that no

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pressure existed whatsoever as he said

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last week to MPs at PMQs in relation to

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this case. Both those areas are

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contested. Labour the Lib Dems reform

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believe that the MP that the PM should

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be investigated about that. Of course,

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most Labor MPs resist that. Um there are

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some rebels already forming mostly the

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critics of the prime minister John

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McDonald he of course is a famous he's a

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left-wing um MP of course formerly um

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the shadow chancellor under Jeremy

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Corbyn he says this when you're under

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attack like this you don't run from the

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attack you run to face it so left-wing

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Labor MP saying don't fight this one PM

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go and have this investigation others

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too Annie McDonald Nadia Wome in in the

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past few moments but most are going to

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be saying no, they vote against uh the

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Tory Lib Dem reform uh motion. Um that's

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because of the threeline whip. They've

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been told to do so by by Labour by Labor

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officials. If they don't do it, they

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might well lose uh any any position in

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government or or or that kind of thing.

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So, and even lose the whip as well.

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That's why they can't afford to do that.

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For me, this shows the inherent weakness

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the prime minister is in. He's got this

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huge majority in the House of Commons of

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100 over 160 and yet he can't really

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rely on that. Now, a strong prime

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minister would have said, "I don't

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really care what happens in parliament.

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It's play your games. I'm dealing with

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the the global crisis, the wars in

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Ukraine, the war in Iran." Instead, his

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team have been making sure the vote is

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got out tonight. Now, earlier we heard

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from Morgan Mcweeny and Philip Barton.

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They went over the all the all the areas

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we know about from this story. What I

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thought you might find interesting

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though, Michelle, is Morgan Mcweeny

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confirmed he had disappearing messages

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on his WhatsApps, which means that

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messages sent to him disappear after a

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certain number of days or months. And

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that could, I think, determine any

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further damage done to Peter to the

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Prime Minister Cirmer from this

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Mandelson affair.

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>> Order.

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>> The eyes to the right. 223

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the nose to the left 335.

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>> Thank you.

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>> The eyes to the right 223.

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The nose to the left 335.

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The nose have it. The nose have it.

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Unlock.

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Just can I just say

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a member upon speaking to complain to me

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and another member when other members

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are shouting shame when they're voting

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it is not acceptable and it will not be

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tolerated. So I hope that the people

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concerned will apologize to those

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members that they shouted at.

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>> MPs voted against uh this motion.

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Basically, the government won. Um they

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voted 335 to 223. Uh so, the government

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won by a majority of 112. That's 112.

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Let me cross live to our political

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editor, Christopher Hope. Christopher,

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um there you go. The government then

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just won. Uh your thoughts?

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Yes, it's no surprise they've won. The

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majority is a bit less than they the

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notional one they have of just over 140

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or so. Um which is smaller than of

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course the last election. It's fallen

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over the past few months as they always

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do. But with me now is Jake Richards.

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He's the uh justice minister to react.

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What's your reaction to that win, Jake

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Richards?

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>> Well, I think Parliament has chosen not

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to uh give in to stupid political games

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when we have so many important crisis

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we're facing as a country. We've got war

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in the Middle East. We've got war in

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Russia and Ukraine. We've got a cost of

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living crisis that continues to hurt

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families. That's what Parliament should

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be concentrating on. That's not to say

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there are serious questions about

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Mandelon's appointment. The prime

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minister has accepted that a mistake was

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made. That's why we've got a foreign

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affairs select committee process. It's

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why we've got the humble address

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process. This will go on for weeks and

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months.

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>> And the police, too.

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>> And the police are obviously undertaking

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their investigation. So, there is a lot

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of scrutiny on this man and this

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appointment. That's right. But we're not

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just going to play silly political games

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like the Conservatives wanted to.

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>> But why on earth were your Labor MPs

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forced to vote uh against the Tories?

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And normally, these motions are free

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vote. A confident PM would say, "You do

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your thing in parliament. I'm busy

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dealing with a cost of living crisis."

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Instead, he forced your colleagues to

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vote for him tonight. That's weak. I

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don't think uh my colleagues were forced

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to. I think we were very

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>> they were the threeline whip is a force

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>> the debate at the end and seeing the

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