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Supreme Court Deals Major Blow To Carney, Proves Poilievre RIght

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For anybody who is still questioning the

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security clearance issue, you don't have

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to listen to me. You don't have to

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listen to Tanya. You don't have to

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listen to Pier. You don't even have to

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listen to David McGinty. And you don't

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even happen to listen to Tomare. But

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there is one body that you must listen

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to, and that is

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>> the Supreme Court of Canada.

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For the last three or so years,

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all we have heard from the liberals is

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Pierre Polyv refuses to get his security

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clearance. And why won't Pierre get his

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security clearance? And we've explained

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it. Pierre has explained it, but

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here's just a couple of clips of the

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time frame on on this. And I only

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grabbed a few. And we're gonna end it

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with Pierre Paulv actually explaining it

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to Mark Carney during the

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Englishspeaking debate in the 2025

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election. So here's the first part of

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this story. It is inexplicable to our

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security services that they cannot let

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the leader of the Conservative party

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know about the threats faced uh facing

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him, his party, and our democracy

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because he refuses to get a security

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clearance. Polyv hasn't ever bothered to

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get his security clearance. I've already

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during this leadership campaign has

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filled out my forms. It wasn't that hard

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to do, I have to say. Uh and put them

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in. and I fully expect to get it uh in

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the near future. And now in the face

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of President Trump's threats, Pierre

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Piev still still refuses to get his

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security clearance.

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>> I' I'd like to hear an explanation as to

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why the leader of the uh of the official

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opposition refuses to seek top security

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clearance so that he can be briefed uh

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on uh on these matters that you care so

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much about.

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>> And Mr. Polyv, it is now 950 days, if my

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numbers are right, since you've had the

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opportunity to get your top top secret

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security clearance, and you've refused.

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Why? Well, first of all, I have got my

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security clearance when I was a

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minister. I got top secret clearance at

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the time, so there's no problem getting

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that. But when the government made this

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recent offer, they said that if I got

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the secret security clearance briefings

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that I would be gagged under the

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security law and I could be prosecuted

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if I spoke freely about matters of

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foreign interference. Now, given that

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Canada has experienced

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Chinese interference by by Beijing, the

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government of China in two consecutive

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elections, I needed to do my job to

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speak freely without fear of

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prosecution. And that was not something

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I would be allowed to do. Even Thomas

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Mulair, the former leader of the NDP,

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said that when he was the leader of the

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of the opposition, he never would have

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accepted the kind of gag order that your

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government and Mr. Trudeau's government

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was attempting to impose on me. And it's

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good that I was I'd made that decision

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because it has allowed me to speak

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freely about things like the case where

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one of your candidates, sir, actually

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said that he wanted to send a political

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opponent to China under a bounty

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threatening his life or imprisonment and

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you refused to get rid of him. Now, it

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might have something to do with the fact

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that you went to China not long ago to

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get a4 billion dollar loan for your

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company, but the reality it is you

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refused to stand up for a Canadian who

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was being threatened by a foreign

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government and I was able to speak

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freely on that matter because I refused

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the gag order that the Liberal

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government attempted. Let him respond.

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Well, I

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>> that was Pier Polyv explaining it for I

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don't know how many times.

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>> Well, and you still hear it in the House

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of Commons every now and then. you still

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see it constantly online.

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>> Anyway, um but

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>> it's been explained many, many times.

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Now, so for people that are watching

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this, if you still don't believe this,

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here is

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now Minister David McGinty, who was the

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chair of the ENSOP committee that had

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the ENSOP report that they had the ENKOP

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briefing that would have imposed this

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gag order on on Pierre Polyv. So you

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don't have to believe me. You don't have

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to believe Tonnie. You don't have to

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believe Pierre. Believe a liberal, the

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actual chair of the Anikop committee.

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And shout out to Vesper on Vesper

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Digital on X for putting together this

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compilation. And you'll see Pierre's

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reference to Tom Karen this as well.

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>> You have to understand and Canadians

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have to understand that the members of

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the committee are bound by the Security

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of Information Act. The members of the

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committee waved their parliamentary

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privilege for the privilege to sit on

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this committee. That means if they

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inadvertently reveal information, they

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can be prosecuted. The members of the

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committee are bound to this purity of

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information act for the rest of their

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lives.

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>> Madam Speaker, members all hold a top

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secret security clearance, have sworn an

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oath, and are permanently bound to

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secrecy under the Security of

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Information Act. Madam Speaker, we

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cannot claim parliamentary privilege in

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the case of an authorized disclosure of

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classified information. That is a point

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I want to emphasize. Members of the

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committee, myself included, are

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necessarily circumspect in what we can

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say in parliament and in public. It also

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means that ENSOP members are subject to

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prosecution under the Security of

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Information Act should they disclose

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information that they learned in the

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course of their duties on the committee.

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>> Okay. I just want to wrap up then w with

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a final point then for those who are

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having trouble understanding why not

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reading the report is actually a good

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thing. Um you agree with Paul of not to

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read it. I still don't really get that.

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Does that mean you just sort of wash

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your hands of it, leave it at that? You

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can have a member of your party who has

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access to that information. And one of

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the things that you have to do when you

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do look at that information is to say

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that you're not going to reveal any of

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it. Be that as it may. I I think that

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was wise not to tie his own hands. I

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would never want to be hamstrung because

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I looked at a government document. I

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would never want to be told that I can't

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ask all the questions I want of the

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government. And I think that on this is

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completely right.

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>> This is what it comes down to. You have

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the chair, the liberal chair of the

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Enzikov committee, the committee that

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Justin Trudeau actually set up telling

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reporters that yes, you can be

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prosecuted if you reveal anything as a

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result of actually getting this specific

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type of briefing. This is the issue. You

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can't talk about it and you can't act on

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it. So what the heck's the point?

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Seriously, what what is the point of of

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getting this briefing if you literally

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cannot do anything else? And and this is

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what I mean. Let's say Pierre Polyv

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hypothetically takes this briefing and

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finds out that Jim Bob, the MP,

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>> the Conservative MP,

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>> the Conservative MP is operating

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as a collaborator with a foreign state,

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right? Let's just say that that's

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happening. Guess what Pierre Polyv can't

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do?

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>> Anything. anything.

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>> That's what he can't do.

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>> He can't kick him out of caucus. He

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can't deliberately, you know, start

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withholding information from like like

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he he can't do anything

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and he can't talk about it. He c he

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can't even say, "Hey, um you may want to

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look at Jim Bob over there.

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He he could be prosecuted and go to jail

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and that is for life." So that's the big

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problem here. Now,

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why are we talking about this? Now, this

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