Reggie and James: 2Pac Really Lost His Life Over A Pendant? Heated Debate!

Okay, I'm going to put a statement out

there and I just want you guys to talk

about it, debate it, whether you agree,

don't agree don't agree. Um the

statement that Tupac passed away over a

Death Row medallion. If you think that's

true, false, accurate, not accurate.

Well,

ultimately that was uh

the cause, I guess.

But

it was bigger than that, you know, the

the game making or the uh James would

say uh putting a hand on a on a on a G

from another side of the town.

Uh I know that's the position James has

always taken from me listening to him.

But ultimately that's what caused

Trayvon Lane to go and uh

in my opinion, from talking to Trey,

and knowing how they usually get down,

speak to his big homies and say, "Hey,

there's the dude over here that me and

K-Dub, you know,

I forget the other guy's name. [ __ ] Uh

Little Mo got into it with, you know,

I'm not saying he said that, but that's

what he meant, got into it at the

Lakewood Mall

and uh tried to take my chain at the

mall.

Tupac heard that

and took off. Showing his being loyal

how he is. Everybody want to say Tupac

this, Tupac that. I look at Tupac Shakur

as being a loyal [ __ ] And he

was at the point

proving his loyalty to

I'm not even going to say the mob. I'm

going to say to Trayvon,

Suge, Buntry,

and um Neckbone. Well, say the mob.

That's the [ __ ] mob right

there. Right there. Okay. Well, then

I'll say the mob. Okay. But there was

other guys that hung around there from

that one from the mob. All of those guys

that was there? That's correct.

>> And that crowd, you can watch the video.

And they were mob.

Yeah, okay.

But I don't I think he was really

showing his allegiance to them. Cuz

that's who all that's who he hung around

the most.

>> Okay. My opinion. Okay.

Okay.

All of that led up to the medallion, the

fight, when they tried to snatch the

medallion

at the mall.

When you said at the at the MGM when the

fight happened,

everybody in the hood know it. But

[ __ ] if you got to choose

somebody

and I saw them again,

you knew the intention is tension,

he should have just took off.

>> [gasps and sighs]

>> Could he do that? Let me ask you this,

James. Being a guy of the stature the

stature that James is,

you have a bigger stature,

and no disrespect to Trey,

than Trey did. In a situation like that

as then a little homie,

if he would have went and started some

[ __ ] like that,

if he would have went and started some

[ __ ] like that

and it did like that where we were at,

I think he would have got disciplined.

Is that from a from from what

standpoint? If you already had the

situation at at the mall when you when

when a [ __ ] trying to put paws on you

and rob you, now I see you again,

you better take off.

Is is is Bloods against Crips?

>> that. So it ain't no conversation. It's

the smoke.

You don't want him already. Yeah. So how

you going to get disciplined for

fighting your what they what they call

that [ __ ] At the event there. At the at

the MGM. Yeah.

What should have happened is Tupac THEM

WOULD HAVE GOT THE [ __ ] OUT THE WAY OR

he would have entertained and joined in

like the rest of them did. Yeah. You

feel me? Yeah. Now everybody

>> think he was going to ask for permission

then?

HE BETTER NOT HAVE. OKAY. I GOT YOU. I'M

NOT IN NO GANG, SO YOU would know better

than me. EXACTLY.

>> JUST SAYING but

take your status from him.

Trayvon, you don't need no status. You

just being you. Okay. Man, I'm a man

that dude a man that dude jumpy.

>> You got to really we call him youngster.

We we can't Trayvon the mob.

>> homies don't listen to [ __ ] They take

off.

>> Okay. Okay.

All right. Taking off is protocol.

Taking off, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DID ME, if

you tried to rob me, the homies ain't

got nothing to say about that.

I'm going to come get you. And when he's

it should have been on from right there.

Orlando was standing by his self. Now if

you really in this [ __ ]

go get it. All right.

And if you was getting your ass whooped,

you already know you got all your big

homies right there. Yeah.

So the ass whooping ain't going to last

no more than a minute. Okay. [ __ ] if

you can't take a ass whooping for a

minute, [ __ ] I I always took it like

it was getting permission.

>> No. Okay. No.

With nobody giving or getting

permission. Do you know what what caused

a lot of [ __ ] happened after that chain

incident? Yeah. All. Man, that caused

all kind of [ __ ] is it? [ __ ]

was in uproars. What what's they what?

Now it's on.

So when when when when that situation

happened, it should have been just that

individual. Our [ __ ] this is food

that woo woo woo. Now you could go tit

for tat. Okay, they jumped us.

It was we was outnumbered. So let's

let's go jump them. Okay.

What was that? We got to research that

one there. One of you [ __ ] in

the comment section tell me cuz I know

you Google [ __ ] be knowing.

What's the time limit from the the

alleged, not the alleged, the incident

at the uh

at the Lakewood Mall and

the shooting of Tupac. If y'all can tell

us that, then so we'll know if we

>> looking up that [ __ ] for nothing because

the situation at the Lakewood Mall they

ain't put no time on it.

Somebody know.

What average street gang fight ain't no

more than 4 minutes. No, I ain't talking

about the time limit. I'm talking about

when it happened, like if it happened in

May or if it happened in April. I just

want to know if

Oh, it was July. So that was fairly new.

Goddamn John, you quick. Man, John, we

knowing, I tell you. Yeah, okay.

>> Okay, so

from the from the time that happened,

just imagine all the [ __ ] that went

right after that that day. Okay. From

that same day.

>> no shootings from that time.

Or hearing about it.

>> Okay, I don't remember none either. But

I know it was on. Okay. Got you. I'm

going to I'm going to say that. It was

on and cracking. So the tension was it

it was there like a [ __ ] Okay.

All the way up until everybody going to

Vegas to 662.

>> Got you. And then hearing that they

said, "Oh, we coming up there. We going

to the club." And okay, bring your ass.

Got you. So

the MGM [ __ ] happened.

From that point,

Tupac and Suge should have been out of

the situation because them the first

Suge is the first person that listen to

me. Suge is the first person the boss

should have been informed, "We going to

get this motherfucker." AND THAT'S WHAT

I'M SAYING TRAYVON DID. WHEN HE WENT

OVER THERE AND SAY, "HEY, those the